Hi I'm new on here and this might not even be possible but I have a longstanding empty house at the back of my garden and the garden is very overgrown. I was wondering if there were specific types of climbing plant/flower seeds I could chuck over the fence (preferably colourful) that would fight their way up through the bracken and make it look pretty.

Thanks for any advice.

"esthomizzy" wrote in
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Hi I'm new on here and this might not even be possible but I have a
longstanding empty house at the back of my garden and the garden is
very overgrown. I was wondering if there were specific types of
climbing plant/flower seeds I could chuck over the fence (preferably
colourful) that would fight their way up through the bracken and
make
it look pretty.

Not to mince words, no.

Franz

"esthomizzy" wrote in message
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Hi I'm new on here and this might not even be possible but I have a
longstanding empty house at the back of my garden and the garden is
very overgrown. I was wondering if there were specific types of
climbing plant/flower seeds I could chuck over the fence (preferably
colourful) that would fight their way up through the bracken and make
it look pretty.

Thanks for any advice.

How about a half hardy annual climber?

Ipomoea (Morning Glory) - chuck over the fence in May.

See sutton seeds website for varieties and colours:

http://www.suttons.co.uk/index2.html...10&d=300&e= 0

HTH

Nick
http://www.ukgardening.co.uk

Nick Gray wrote:
"esthomizzy" wrote in
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Hi I'm new on here and this might not even be possible but I have
a
longstanding empty house at the back of my garden and the garden
is
very overgrown. I was wondering if there were specific types of
climbing plant/flower seeds I could chuck over the fence
(preferably
colourful) that would fight their way up through the bracken and
make
it look pretty.

Thanks for any advice.

How about a half hardy annual climber?

Ipomoea (Morning Glory) - chuck over the fence in May.

See sutton seeds website for varieties and colours:


http://www.suttons.co.uk/index2.html...10&d=300&e= 0

Could be a waste of money: not everybody has luck with them, and just
chucking them over the fence will merely give an LSD-like experience
to half a dozen of the local wildlife. (Wouldn't even be worth the
money just to see tripping rats.)

If there's bracken in there, it would be good to get in and try to
clear it before it gets into _your_ garden. Interesting plant: it's
possible that a single plant may cover an acre or more. Repeated
treatments with glyphosate when the fronds are growing well should
knock it out in the end, I imagine.

I'd sow some Everlasting Peas in individual pots, and plant them out
properly. It's like a scentless sweet pea, but perennial; very
vigorous. But you really do need to subdue the bracken first. Perhaps
you could pop over around now and fork out as much of the bracken
rhizome as you can in a two-three-foot strip under the fence. The
loosening of the soil will make it easier to pull out any growths
which later come up from broken-off bits that get left behind, and
the winter will prepare it for your Everlasting Peas or whatever you
choose. If you have to re-treat the bracken after planting out the
peas, just cover the peas with plastic first.

Mike.

Thanks both

I'm not sure it is bracken actually a tangled mess of roots and leaves and thorns with some dead virginia creeper thrown in for good measure. My fence is quite tall and up against a small wall which is up against the remains of the fence of the property at the back. If I was able to make it into the garden I'm not sure I'd be able to make it back again without a stepladder and also I'd be trespassing not to mention the fact that we are in the middle of back to back terraces so the only way in apart from over the fence is via their front door. It's no biggy really it doesn't upset me too much that it's a bit messy I just thought I might be able to benefit from something in their garden. I'll give the Ipomoea a go if it comes to nothing I've not lost anything but a few quid.

"esthomizzy" wrote in
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Thanks both

I'm not sure it is bracken actually a tangled mess of roots and
leaves
and thorns with some dead virginia creeper thrown in for good
measure.
My fence is quite tall and up against a small wall which is up
against
the remains of the fence of the property at the back. If I was able
to
make it into the garden I'm not sure I'd be able to make it back
again
without a stepladder and also I'd be trespassing not to mention the
fact that we are in the middle of back to back terraces so the only
way
in apart from over the fence is via their front door. It's no biggy
really it doesn't upset me too much that it's a bit messy I just
thought I might be able to benefit from something in their garden.
I'll
give the Ipomoea a go if it comes to nothing I've not lost anything
but
a few quid.

A few 1" pieces of Japanese Knotweed root thrown as hard as you can
over the fence should spice things up a bit. {:-))

Franz

"esthomizzy" wrote in message
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Thanks both

I'm not sure it is bracken actually a tangled mess of roots and leaves
and thorns with some dead virginia creeper thrown in for good measure.
My fence is quite tall and up against a small wall which is up against
the remains of the fence of the property at the back. If I was able to
make it into the garden I'm not sure I'd be able to make it back again
without a stepladder and also I'd be trespassing not to mention the
fact that we are in the middle of back to back terraces so the only way
in apart from over the fence is via their front door. It's no biggy
really it doesn't upset me too much that it's a bit messy I just
thought I might be able to benefit from something in their garden. I'll
give the Ipomoea a go if it comes to nothing I've not lost anything but
a few quid.

I've also just thought, that you could try chucking over some Nasturtium
(Tropaeolum majus) in March - May. Yellow, orange and red coloured flowers
(amonst others). They are pretty vigorous and should self seed quite freely.

HTH

Nick
http://www.ukgardening.co.uk

"esthomizzy" wrote in message
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Thanks both

I'm not sure it is bracken actually a tangled mess of roots and leaves
and thorns with some dead virginia creeper thrown in for good measure.
My fence is quite tall and up against a small wall which is up against
the remains of the fence of the property at the back. If I was able to
make it into the garden I'm not sure I'd be able to make it back again
without a stepladder and also I'd be trespassing not to mention the
fact that we are in the middle of back to back terraces so the only way
in apart from over the fence is via their front door. It's no biggy
really it doesn't upset me too much that it's a bit messy I just
thought I might be able to benefit from something in their garden. I'll
give the Ipomoea a go if it comes to nothing I've not lost anything but
a few quid.
esthomizzy

Ummmmmm - why not plant on your side of the fence ??

Suggestions at:
http://www.hintsandthings.co.uk/garden/climbers.htm
http://www.findspot.com/climbing-plant.htm

Jenny

"JennyC" wrote
"esthomizzy" wrote

Thanks both

I'm not sure it is bracken actually a tangled mess of roots and leaves
and thorns with some dead virginia creeper thrown in for good measure.
My fence is quite tall and up against a small wall which is up against
the remains of the fence of the property at the back. If I was able to
make it into the garden I'm not sure I'd be able to make it back again
without a stepladder and also I'd be trespassing not to mention the
fact that we are in the middle of back to back terraces so the only way
in apart from over the fence is via their front door. It's no biggy
really it doesn't upset me too much that it's a bit messy I just
thought I might be able to benefit from something in their garden. I'll
give the Ipomoea a go if it comes to nothing I've not lost anything but
a few quid.
esthomizzy

Ummmmmm - why not plant on your side of the fence ??

Suggestions at:
http://www.hintsandthings.co.uk/garden/climbers.htm
http://www.findspot.com/climbing-plant.htm

Jenny

PS nice pictures of climbers at: http://www.plantsman.com/pics/pictures00.html
jenny

Nick Gray wrote:
"esthomizzy" wrote in
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Thanks both

I'm not sure it is bracken actually a tangled mess of roots and
leaves and thorns with some dead virginia creeper thrown in for
good
measure. My fence is quite tall and up against a small wall which
is
up against the remains of the fence of the property at the back.
If
I was able to make it into the garden I'm not sure I'd be able to
make it back again without a stepladder and also I'd be
trespassing
not to mention the fact that we are in the middle of back to back
terraces so the only way in apart from over the fence is via their
front door. It's no biggy really it doesn't upset me too much that
it's a bit messy I just thought I might be able to benefit from
something in their garden. I'll give the Ipomoea a go if it comes
to
nothing I've not lost anything but a few quid.

I've also just thought, that you could try chucking over some
Nasturtium (Tropaeolum majus) in March - May. Yellow, orange and
red
coloured flowers (amonst others). They are pretty vigorous and
should
self seed quite freely.

I really deprecate this "chuck them over" policy. It just isn't going
to work any more than "chuck it and chance it" will catch you a creel
of trout.

Mike.

I've also just thought, that you could try chucking over some
Nasturtium (Tropaeolum majus) in March - May. Yellow, orange and
red
coloured flowers (amonst others). They are pretty vigorous and
should
self seed quite freely.

I really deprecate this "chuck them over" policy. It just isn't going
to work any more than "chuck it and chance it" will catch you a creel
of trout.

I beg to differ. How do the seeds of your plants get from the flower heads
to the soil? Mine fall, and wouldn't know the difference between falling
from a hand and falling from a seed pod.

Cheers

Nick
http://www.ukgardening.co.uk

In article ,
Nick Gray wrote:

I've also just thought, that you could try chucking over some
Nasturtium (Tropaeolum majus) in March - May. Yellow, orange and
red
coloured flowers (amonst others). They are pretty vigorous and
should
self seed quite freely.

I really deprecate this "chuck them over" policy. It just isn't going
to work any more than "chuck it and chance it" will catch you a creel
of trout.

I beg to differ. How do the seeds of your plants get from the flower heads
to the soil? Mine fall, and wouldn't know the difference between falling
from a hand and falling from a seed pod.

And the reason that plants produce so many seeds is because so few
grow to reach flowering stage. If you sow something tough and
adapted to the conditions (like nettle or goosefoot), it will very
probably grow. But the same does not apply to most decorative
flowers.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article , Nick
Gray writes

I've also just thought, that you could try chucking over some
Nasturtium (Tropaeolum majus) in March - May. Yellow, orange and
red
coloured flowers (amonst others). They are pretty vigorous and
should
self seed quite freely.

I really deprecate this "chuck them over" policy. It just isn't going
to work any more than "chuck it and chance it" will catch you a creel
of trout.

I beg to differ. How do the seeds of your plants get from the flower heads
to the soil? Mine fall, and wouldn't know the difference between falling
from a hand and falling from a seed pod.

That's the difference. Yours fall to the soil, where they have a chance
of growing. These seeds will be falling in to a mass of established
perennials where they will lose out in the competition for light.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

If you are going to try this chuck it over idea, then I would start some
seeds in 4inch pots of soil (Not a light compost), and then when they have a
good root system, cut them back and on a good wet day throw then over
(without their pots), then given some luck and a few damp days the roots may
get into the soil.
At least this way there is les chance of you just feeding the mice.

David Hill wrote:
If you are going to try this chuck it over idea, then I would start
some seeds in 4inch pots of soil (Not a light compost), and then
when
they have a good root system, cut them back and on a good wet day
throw then over (without their pots), then given some luck and a
few
damp days the roots may get into the soil.
At least this way there is les chance of you just feeding the mice.

Sound thinking.

Mike.