On 18/12/04 17:00, in article ,
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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:53:08 +0000, Sacha
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Vertical?


Take your pick from

Fiddle: A rack or frame of bars connected by strings, to
keep table furniture in place on the cabin table in bad
weather. --Ham. Nav. Encyc.

Interesting - I've never seen such a concoction myself. The upright lip
type thing that is sometimes fixed in place or sometimes collapsible, along
the edge of the table, yes.

FIDDLE, n. An instrument to tickle human ears by friction of a horse's
tail on the entrails of a cat.

You are writing your own dictionary, now? ;-)
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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

On 18/12/04 17:15, in article ,
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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:11:33 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

On 18/12/04 17:00, in article ,
" wrote:

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:53:08 +0000, Sacha
wrote:
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Vertical?


Take your pick from

Fiddle: A rack or frame of bars connected by strings, to
keep table furniture in place on the cabin table in bad
weather. --Ham. Nav. Encyc.

Interesting - I've never seen such a concoction myself. The upright lip
type thing that is sometimes fixed in place or sometimes collapsible, along
the edge of the table, yes.

and lashed/clamped to a stove to stop the pans falling off.

Mothercare sold such things, to stop small kids pulling pans of
boiling fat/water onto themselves, when our kids were small, but
apparently don't do so anymore.

Okay, though I'd call that a stove guard, I suppose. I know the thing you
mean, certainly.
But in the definition given for the quiz, I'd imagine it must mean whatever
is fixed to the edge of table to stop the square trays (in this case) from
ending up in the sailor's lap.

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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

Manna, Maradona, Marfona, Maritiema, Markies, Matador, Melody, Milva,
Minerva, Monalisa, Mondial, Morene are all potatoes from the
Netherlands - Marfona being the best known - Mimi's from Scotland
A square meal - ASM

The icing on the cake - TIotC

Phil

Martin wrote after, "Bob Hobden"

Surely A.S.M. Can't be A Square Meal?
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A.S.M ...Quite right, in those days they had little room to sit and eat on
board ship and had square wooden plates to take up less room.

google says wooden trays,

What's in a word?

O.t.F .....The edge of the plate was known as the fiddle so "on the
fiddle"
meant he had a good plateful of food that was hanging over the edge.

fiddles are vertical strips of wood attached to a boat's table to stop
plates etc. sliding off when the sea is rough.
--
They might well be but in those days they were the strips of wood around the
edges of the square tray. Anyone that got food hanging over the edge was
receiving favours which is where we now get the phrase "on the fiddle".

A guided tour around the Victory includes all this sort of thing usually.
:-)

--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London

"Bob Hobden"

O.t.F .....The edge of the plate was known as the fiddle so "on the
fiddle"
meant he had a good plateful of food that was hanging over the edge.

fiddles are vertical strips of wood attached to a boat's table to stop
plates etc. sliding off when the sea is rough.
--
They might well be but in those days they were the strips of wood around
the edges of the square tray. Anyone that got food hanging over the edge
was receiving favours which is where we now get the phrase "on the
fiddle".

see the trays at..
http://www.hms-victory.com/index.php...d=57&Itemid=51


--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London

Many, many thanks you all for your help.


"Janet Bennett" wrote in message
...
Please could someone help me solve the following :

All associated with food and drink -
eg. A.P.o.C easy for the RAF - Answer A Piece of Cake
Q.o.H. Royal Pastry Cook - Answer Queen of Hearts
C.t.B. Creative accounting - Answer Cooking the Books

Any help with the following would be much appreciated:

A.S.M. what a 19th century sailor would eat
O.t.F the 19th century sailor would be fortunate to
get this meal
T.I.o.t.C the best bit
A.P. this is really choice
P.B. dessert concocted by French Railway Chef
M. potato variety from the Netherlands
H.D. fortunately offends trade description
P.P.H. astonished person still wouldn't eat it
O German rubbish food
U variety of black potato

Janet