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Old 18-12-2004, 05:22 PM
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In a recent edition of a trade magazine Peter Seabrook has spoken out quite
strongly about TV gardeners and the poor advice they give at times. In
particular, he writes of one such suggesting that people plant tulips
bulb-to-bulb along a wall and then saying a while later that it's better to
space them to avoid tulip fire! He wonders whether these people ever
actually trial the advice they give. His rather depressing comment is that
the gap between real gardeners and garden presenting is now so great that he
doubts it can ever be bridged - sad thought for new gardeners particularly,
I think.
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Old 18-12-2004, 09:25 PM
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In a recent edition of a trade magazine Peter Seabrook has spoken out
quite
strongly about TV gardeners and the poor advice they give at times. In
particular, he writes of one such suggesting that people plant tulips
bulb-to-bulb along a wall and then saying a while later that it's better
to
space them to avoid tulip fire! He wonders whether these people ever
actually trial the advice they give. His rather depressing comment is
that
the gap between real gardeners and garden presenting is now so great that
he
doubts it can ever be bridged - sad thought for new gardeners
particularly,
I think.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

My favourite hate is Garden Makeover shows, where nothing is actually grown,
but all suck in to the ground to produce an instant effect. Very superficial
and not really in tune with nature I think.


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Old 19-12-2004, 06:25 AM
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"Duncan Heenan" wrote in message
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"Sacha" wrote in message
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In a recent edition of a trade magazine Peter Seabrook has spoken

out
quite
strongly about TV gardeners and the poor advice they give at

times. In
particular, he writes of one such suggesting that people plant

tulips
bulb-to-bulb along a wall and then saying a while later that it's

better
to
space them to avoid tulip fire! He wonders whether these people

ever
actually trial the advice they give. His rather depressing

comment is
that
the gap between real gardeners and garden presenting is now so

great that
he
doubts it can ever be bridged - sad thought for new gardeners
particularly,
I think.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

My favourite hate is Garden Makeover shows, where nothing is

actually grown,
but all suck in to the ground to produce an instant effect. Very

superficial
and not really in tune with nature I think.


Too true. I often wish they would go back to a made-over garden about
one or two years later to show us how it thrived.

Franz




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Old 19-12-2004, 07:22 AM
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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
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"Duncan Heenan" wrote in message
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"Sacha" wrote in message
k...
In a recent edition of a trade magazine Peter Seabrook has spoken

out
quite
strongly about TV gardeners and the poor advice they give at

times. In
particular, he writes of one such suggesting that people plant

tulips
bulb-to-bulb along a wall and then saying a while later that it's

better
to
space them to avoid tulip fire! He wonders whether these people

ever
actually trial the advice they give. His rather depressing

comment is
that
the gap between real gardeners and garden presenting is now so

great that
he
doubts it can ever be bridged - sad thought for new gardeners
particularly,
I think.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

My favourite hate is Garden Makeover shows, where nothing is

actually grown,
but all suck in to the ground to produce an instant effect. Very

superficial
and not really in tune with nature I think.


Too true. I often wish they would go back to a made-over garden about
one or two years later to show us how it thrived.

Franz


Which Ground Force did, of course, and to be fair most of their gardens had
settled down pretty well.

The problem I have with most of these shows is that they don't actually give
any advice! They create a ready-made garden with ready-made plants but don't
give any tips on how the plants they use need to be looked after. For those
of us with a good knowledge of gardening, and a small library of books, this
is not such a problem but for a newcomer it may lead to disappointment as
they would be relying on the often sketchy advice on the 'care label' on the
plants.

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"Sacha" wrote in message
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In a recent edition of a trade magazine Peter Seabrook has spoken


out

quite
strongly about TV gardeners and the poor advice they give at


times. In

particular, he writes of one such suggesting that people plant


tulips

bulb-to-bulb along a wall and then saying a while later that it's


better

to
space them to avoid tulip fire! He wonders whether these people


ever

actually trial the advice they give. His rather depressing


comment is

that
the gap between real gardeners and garden presenting is now so


great that

he
doubts it can ever be bridged - sad thought for new gardeners
particularly,
I think.
--
Sacha

SNIP
I've written here before about the impractical advice given. Also they
seem to think we have an inexhaustible supply of money. The Gardeners
show on Friday showed them planting up a paved area for Christmas, not
the whole year. I hate to think how much money was spent, they glibly
mentioned the pots being so cheap at £45, then went on to use quite a
number, that was not mentioning the mature plants. Cloud cuckoo land,
me thinks!


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In a recent edition of a trade magazine Peter Seabrook has spoken out

quite
strongly about TV gardeners and the poor advice they give at times. In
particular, he writes of one such suggesting that people plant tulips
bulb-to-bulb along a wall and then saying a while later that it's better

to
space them to avoid tulip fire! He wonders whether these people ever
actually trial the advice they give. His rather depressing comment is

that
the gap between real gardeners and garden presenting is now so great that

he
doubts it can ever be bridged - sad thought for new gardeners

particularly,
I think.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Interesting that it should be Mr Seabrook complaining, I seem to recall that
he and Geoff Hamilton really did not get on, mainly because PS has spoken
out against Organic methods and no-dig gardening. Stating quite
categorically that the chemical route is the only sensible route to take and
that gardeners use so little peat that we should not worry about depleting
natural resources. I get the impression that he, PS, is a bit of a died in
the wool old fashioned gardener. Don't get me wrong, I have a couple of his
books, and years ago read them avidly, it's just that I think he can be a
little out of touch sometimes. It's because of that, that he went downhill
somewhat in my estimation.

Of course having said all that I agree that the idea of planting tulips bulb
to bulb does seem rather silly. :-)

As for new gardeners, don't worry Sacha, as soon as they find urg they'll be
put on the straight and narrow.

Duncan


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I get the impression that he, PS, is a bit of a died in
the wool old fashioned gardener. Don't get me wrong, I have a couple of his
books, and years ago read them avidly, it's just that I think he can be a
little out of touch sometimes. It's because of that, that he went downhill
somewhat in my estimation.

Of course having said all that I agree that the idea of planting tulips bulb
to bulb does seem rather silly. :-)

As for new gardeners, don't worry Sacha, as soon as they find urg they'll be
put on the straight and narrow.

A thing devoutly to be wished. ;-)) Didn't Seabrook take over from Geoff
Hamilton on GW? I don't remember but Ray thinks so.
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www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
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