On Sun, 15 May 2005 20:07:22 +0200, martin wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2005 19:02:36 +0100, MM wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2005 17:09:43 +0100, "Mike Lyle"
wrote:

MM wrote:
Around here in the Fens there are dykes everywhere. The amount of
water going for free is incredible. (My water supply is metered.) I
thought, why can't I get one of those old-fashioned stirrup pumps
and
pump some out into a container. But then I thought, ah, there's
sure
to be someone who'll say, you can't do that. What's the law?

It seems you can help yourself to up to 20 cubic metres a day, which
is a lot for a stirrup-pump! After that, you need an abstraction
licence. The following site took ages to load just now, but that may
be a transient condition:
http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk...75517/?lang=_e

But the dyke may be some sort of private property, so I'd check. Not
that you could use a stirrup-pump anyhow, but I know what you mean.

Goodness! 20 cubic metres a day! That'd be enough to have a bath as
well occasionally! Crikey. Thanks for that. Very interesting. Now all
I need to do is work out a way of fitting a tank into my car! Although
I did see that the Erde trailers outside Halfords are very cheap. The
smaller one was only £149. You'd get a lot of water in a plastic tank
on the back of one of those. Of course, you'd get about 150 cubic
metres of Anglian water for that kind of money instead, but it's the
idea of getting something for nothing that appeals.

Have you worked out how much 20 cubic metres of water weighs?

I'm not about to extract all 20 in one go! A water butt from B&Q
contains around 200 litres. That would do for starters.

MM

MM wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2005 20:07:22 +0200, martin wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2005 19:02:36 +0100, MM wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2005 17:09:43 +0100, "Mike Lyle"
wrote:

MM wrote:
Around here in the Fens there are dykes everywhere. The amount of
water going for free is incredible. (My water supply is metered.)
I thought, why can't I get one of those old-fashioned stirrup
pumps and pump some out into a container. But then I thought, ah,
there's sure to be someone who'll say, you can't do that. What's
the law?

It seems you can help yourself to up to 20 cubic metres a day,
which is a lot for a stirrup-pump! After that, you need an
abstraction licence. The following site took ages to load just
now, but that may be a transient condition:
http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk...75517/?lang=_e

But the dyke may be some sort of private property, so I'd check.
Not that you could use a stirrup-pump anyhow, but I know what you
mean.

Goodness! 20 cubic metres a day! That'd be enough to have a bath as
well occasionally! Crikey. Thanks for that. Very interesting. Now
all I need to do is work out a way of fitting a tank into my car!
Although I did see that the Erde trailers outside Halfords are very
cheap. The smaller one was only £149. You'd get a lot of water in a
plastic tank on the back of one of those. Of course, you'd get
about 150 cubic metres of Anglian water for that kind of money
instead, but it's the idea of getting something for nothing that
appeals.

Have you worked out how much 20 cubic metres of water weighs?

I'm not about to extract all 20 in one go! A water butt from B&Q
contains around 200 litres. That would do for starters.

By the time you have used petrol to drive to the dyke, and the trailer with
suitable container to hold the water, driven back with a full load, it would
have been cheaper to pay fro metered water.

purebred poultry
www.geocities.com/fenlandfowl

In message , pammyT
writes
By the time you have used petrol to drive to the dyke, and the trailer with
suitable container to hold the water, driven back with a full load, it would
have been cheaper to pay fro metered water.

purebred poultry
www.geocities.com/fenlandfowl


But not half as much fun :-P

I suppose there is the feeling of beating the system in some way. But
there must be less exhausting ways
--
Sue Begg

Do not mess in the affairs of dragons - for
you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

"Sue Begg" wrote in message
...
In message , pammyT
writes
By the time you have used petrol to drive to the dyke, and the trailer
with
suitable container to hold the water, driven back with a full load, it
would
have been cheaper to pay fro metered water.

purebred poultry
www.geocities.com/fenlandfowl


But not half as much fun :-P

I suppose there is the feeling of beating the system in some way. But
there must be less exhausting ways
--
Sue Begg

Do not mess in the affairs of dragons - for
you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

Dig a well, the water table can not be that far down if you have dykes
nearby, all our water comes from the well.
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

Farmers can "buy" water for extraction under licence but I believe these licences can be revoked if there is a drought.

It is actually illegal to withdraw water for a watermill and return it to the river except under licence!

In England you also need a rod licence to go fishing. Move to Scotland!

In Orkney nobody owns the lochs under viking law so fishing on the lochs is free.

If you are a landowner with a large run-off should the water board pay you for the water provided by your acrerage?

On Mon, 16 May 2005 12:10:02 +0100, "pammyT"
wrote:

MM wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2005 20:07:22 +0200, martin wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2005 19:02:36 +0100, MM wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2005 17:09:43 +0100, "Mike Lyle"
wrote:

MM wrote:
Around here in the Fens there are dykes everywhere. The amount of
water going for free is incredible. (My water supply is metered.)
I thought, why can't I get one of those old-fashioned stirrup
pumps and pump some out into a container. But then I thought, ah,
there's sure to be someone who'll say, you can't do that. What's
the law?

It seems you can help yourself to up to 20 cubic metres a day,
which is a lot for a stirrup-pump! After that, you need an
abstraction licence. The following site took ages to load just
now, but that may be a transient condition:
http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk...75517/?lang=_e

But the dyke may be some sort of private property, so I'd check.
Not that you could use a stirrup-pump anyhow, but I know what you
mean.

Goodness! 20 cubic metres a day! That'd be enough to have a bath as
well occasionally! Crikey. Thanks for that. Very interesting. Now
all I need to do is work out a way of fitting a tank into my car!
Although I did see that the Erde trailers outside Halfords are very
cheap. The smaller one was only £149. You'd get a lot of water in a
plastic tank on the back of one of those. Of course, you'd get
about 150 cubic metres of Anglian water for that kind of money
instead, but it's the idea of getting something for nothing that
appeals.

Have you worked out how much 20 cubic metres of water weighs?

I'm not about to extract all 20 in one go! A water butt from B&Q
contains around 200 litres. That would do for starters.

By the time you have used petrol to drive to the dyke,

Around here,you can spit in anydirection and have it end up in a dyke.
It would cost me, ooh, 25 pence in petrol (5 minutes' drive, stop
engine, pump, 5 minutes' back).

and the trailer with
suitable container to hold the water, driven back with a full load, it would
have been cheaper to pay fro metered water.

But not as satisfying.

MM