Hardly a uk.rec.GARDENING question, but there are some very
knowledgeable people here who I hope will give me an idea on how long,
from scratch, it would take to prepare a piece of land to be able to
play Bowls on it.

Anyone any accurate idea?

Mike


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"Mike" wrote in message
...

Hardly a uk.rec.GARDENING question, but there are some very
knowledgeable people here who I hope will give me an idea on how long,
from scratch, it would take to prepare a piece of land to be able to
play Bowls on it.

Anyone any accurate idea?

Mike

I have a book - 'the care of the golf course' which explains in some detail
how to establish and look after a putting green. I can give you the ISBN?

Ian

In article , Laphing
Boy writes

"Mike" wrote in message
...

Hardly a uk.rec.GARDENING question, but there are some very
knowledgeable people here who I hope will give me an idea on how long,
from scratch, it would take to prepare a piece of land to be able to
play Bowls on it.

Anyone any accurate idea?

Mike

I have a book - 'the care of the golf course' which explains in some detail
how to establish and look after a putting green. I can give you the ISBN?

Ian



Pretty much the same sort of 'Billiard Table' effect, but I am starting
from scratch. (Well, not me, but the timetable planning of). And it is a
very rough area I have in mind at the moment:-(

I would like to know are we talking one year? 3 years? 5 years before a
Wood is bowled?

Mike

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I love deadlines. I especially like the whooshing sound they make as they
go flying by.

In article , Mike
writes

I would like to know are we talking one year? 3 years? 5 years before a
Wood is bowled?

I would guess 5-7 years. But that is only to bring the area up to the
condition required - after that, continuous fairly intensive maintenance
would be needed to keep the green in that condition.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

In article , Alan Gould
writes
In article , Mike
writes

I would like to know are we talking one year? 3 years? 5 years before a
Wood is bowled?

I would guess 5-7 years. But that is only to bring the area up to the
condition required - after that, continuous fairly intensive maintenance
would be needed to keep the green in that condition.

Thanks Alan

I have a meeting tonight so will mention this. I did think it would be
quite some time and as the ground is in a poor state at present, then I
can see it is 'distant future' as opposed to 'starting to take
bookings'.

This is only one corner of the site and there is plenty of other work to
do, so perhaps we could get this underway ASAP and fence it in.

Thanks for your help and Ian's email as well. Yes we will need even
better than 'Putting Green' surface :-))

Mike


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"Alan Gould" wrote in message
...
In article , Mike
writes

I would like to know are we talking one year? 3 years? 5 years before a
Wood is bowled?

I would guess 5-7 years. But that is only to bring the area up to the
condition required - after that, continuous fairly intensive maintenance
would be needed to keep the green in that condition.

Reminds me of the old one about the Merkin visiting a Cambridge College and
admiring the lawn:

Merkin: "Gee, what a wonderful lawn. Can you give me some tips on how I can
get my lawn to look like this"

Porter: "It's very easy, Madam. Simple mow and roll three times a week for
200 years and you too could have a lawn like this"

pk

In article , Paul Kelly
writes


Reminds me of the old one about the Merkin visiting a Cambridge College and
admiring the lawn:

Merkin: "Gee, what a wonderful lawn. Can you give me some tips on how I can
get my lawn to look like this"

Porter: "It's very easy, Madam. Simple mow and roll three times a week for
200 years and you too could have a lawn like this"

It's a nice joke, but when was the lawnmower invented? Late 19thC IIRC.
Before that, it would have been a scythe.
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/garden/

"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
In article , Paul Kelly
writes


Reminds me of the old one about the Merkin visiting a Cambridge College
and
admiring the lawn:

Merkin: "Gee, what a wonderful lawn. Can you give me some tips on how I
can
get my lawn to look like this"

Porter: "It's very easy, Madam. Simple mow and roll three times a week
for
200 years and you too could have a lawn like this"

It's a nice joke, but when was the lawnmower invented? Late 19thC IIRC.
Before that, it would have been a scythe.


pedant! (;-)

pk

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 19:50:45 +0000, Mike
wrote:


Hardly a uk.rec.GARDENING question, but there are some very
knowledgeable people here who I hope will give me an idea on how long,
from scratch, it would take to prepare a piece of land to be able to
play Bowls on it.

Anyone any accurate idea?

Mike

I would strongly advise anyone thinking of creating a bowling green
from scratch to become a member of the Sports Turf Research Institute.
www.stri.co.uk They are the experts and will provide skilled and
precise advice. I was a member of a rather run down bowling green,
and with the advice of the STRI after about two years we had a green
to be proud of.


-
Peter James
Change AT to @ to reply

This advice may come too late for your meeting, but I think that you have two
roots to getting the best results. The first would be to completely level the
site and then lay an appropriate medium for sowing seed straight onto to ensure
you get a 'clen' start and get a good quality of grass as a basis for the
green. You'd need to reseach/take expert advice as to what the medium should
be and what mix of grass seed you'll need to give you the best results.

The second option is to level the site and prepare it and buy in very
specialised turves from someone who can supply you with the appropriate turves
for your site, soil type, aspect, etc. but then I did assume you weren't going
to use the kind of turves you'd buy from a garden turf supplier. Thought I'd
just mention it though. Taking things for granted is never a good idea.

Basically, I think you're looking at 6 months to 2 years depending on which
avenue you take and how lucky you are with the site, weather, etc.

God only knows if this is any help to you at all, but all the best!

Dave.

In article , Paul Kelly
writes

"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
In article , Paul Kelly
writes


Reminds me of the old one about the Merkin visiting a Cambridge College
and
admiring the lawn:

Merkin: "Gee, what a wonderful lawn. Can you give me some tips on how I
can
get my lawn to look like this"

Porter: "It's very easy, Madam. Simple mow and roll three times a week
for
200 years and you too could have a lawn like this"

It's a nice joke, but when was the lawnmower invented? Late 19thC IIRC.
Before that, it would have been a scythe.


pedant! (;-)

Gosh, I've never been called that before! :-)
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/garden/

In article , DaveDay34
writes
This advice may come too late for your meeting, but I think that you have two
roots to getting the best results. The first would be to completely level the
site and then lay an appropriate medium for sowing seed straight onto to ensure
you get a 'clen' start and get a good quality of grass as a basis for the
green. You'd need to reseach/take expert advice as to what the medium should
be and what mix of grass seed you'll need to give you the best results.

The second option is to level the site and prepare it and buy in very
specialised turves from someone who can supply you with the appropriate turves
for your site, soil type, aspect, etc. but then I did assume you weren't going
to use the kind of turves you'd buy from a garden turf supplier. Thought I'd
just mention it though. Taking things for granted is never a good idea.

Basically, I think you're looking at 6 months to 2 years depending on which
avenue you take and how lucky you are with the site, weather, etc.

God only knows if this is any help to you at all, but all the best!

Dave.

No, not only God, but me as well!!

Thanks for all the advice and who to contact for even more advice, much
appreciated.

The meeting turned out even better than I thought in that it is rumoured
that another local Bowling Club is about to be 'turfed' off their ground
and it is to be developed. 'IF' this is the case, not only would they be
pleased to move to this new club and sight, but they 'might' even be
able to bring their turf/green with them. (Sorry about the pun).

It's back to the Drawing Board now and redesign the site for a Public
Exhibition sometime in the near future. Bowling Green, Football and
Hockey Pitch, Petanque Terrain, Coach and Car Parking and as bigger Club
House Pavilion as I can get on there :-))

One point which did come up at the meeting was that someone thought that
my idea of a 'prickly' hedge down the side of the path would not be
allowed. Any comments welcomed.

Thanks again for the input.

'THIS' is the side of gardening I like :-)
Yes there will be flower beds etc. Any volunteers to come and tend them
and keep them neat and tidy?? ;-}

Mike
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"Mike" wrote in message
...

you need to lay drainage first then a shingle layer then sandy loam finally
cumberland turf can be played on 1 year later would cost u about £40,000 to
lay and about £10,000 per year maintenance

"DaveDay34" wrote in message
...
This advice may come too late for your meeting, but I think that you have
two
roots to getting the best results. The first would be to completely level
the
site and then lay an appropriate medium for sowing seed straight onto to
ensure
you get a 'clen' start and get a good quality of grass as a basis for the
green. You'd need to reseach/take expert advice as to what the medium
should
be and what mix of grass seed you'll need to give you the best results.

The second option is to level the site and prepare it and buy in very
specialised turves from someone who can supply you with the appropriate
turves
for your site, soil type, aspect, etc. but then I did assume you weren't
going
to use the kind of turves you'd buy from a garden turf supplier. Thought
I'd
just mention it though. Taking things for granted is never a good idea.

Basically, I think you're looking at 6 months to 2 years depending on
which
avenue you take and how lucky you are with the site, weather, etc.

God only knows if this is any help to you at all, but all the best!

sorry dave but both your routes would prove disasterous please strick to
gardens

let me know what area you are ion and i can give u a list of contractors in
your area
"Mike" wrote in message
...
In article , DaveDay34
writes
This advice may come too late for your meeting, but I think that you have
two
roots to getting the best results. The first would be to completely
level the
site and then lay an appropriate medium for sowing seed straight onto to
ensure
you get a 'clen' start and get a good quality of grass as a basis for the
green. You'd need to reseach/take expert advice as to what the medium
should
be and what mix of grass seed you'll need to give you the best results.

The second option is to level the site and prepare it and buy in very
specialised turves from someone who can supply you with the appropriate
turves
for your site, soil type, aspect, etc. but then I did assume you weren't
going
to use the kind of turves you'd buy from a garden turf supplier. Thought
I'd
just mention it though. Taking things for granted is never a good idea.

Basically, I think you're looking at 6 months to 2 years depending on
which
avenue you take and how lucky you are with the site, weather, etc.

God only knows if this is any help to you at all, but all the best!

Dave.

No, not only God, but me as well!!

Thanks for all the advice and who to contact for even more advice, much
appreciated.

The meeting turned out even better than I thought in that it is rumoured
that another local Bowling Club is about to be 'turfed' off their ground
and it is to be developed. 'IF' this is the case, not only would they be
pleased to move to this new club and sight, but they 'might' even be
able to bring their turf/green with them. (Sorry about the pun).

It's back to the Drawing Board now and redesign the site for a Public
Exhibition sometime in the near future. Bowling Green, Football and
Hockey Pitch, Petanque Terrain, Coach and Car Parking and as bigger Club
House Pavilion as I can get on there :-))

One point which did come up at the meeting was that someone thought that
my idea of a 'prickly' hedge down the side of the path would not be
allowed. Any comments welcomed.

Thanks again for the input.

'THIS' is the side of gardening I like :-)
Yes there will be flower beds etc. Any volunteers to come and tend them
and keep them neat and tidy?? ;-}

Mike
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Castle Class Corvettes Assn. Reunion October 2003 Isle of Wight.
National Service (RAF) Association reunion. Nov 2003 Scarborough.