How soon in spring should you treat your pond with this. It says water
temp don't matter but when would be best to kill the parasites. Has
anyone used this before?



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do your fish have dacs? the stuff is pretty toxic all by itself. gyros are
treatable with PP if the fish are flashing and yes, it can be used in cold water. no
formalin based product should be used in cold water.
Ingrid

(REBEL JOE) wrote:

How soon in spring should you treat your pond with this. It says water
temp don't matter but when would be best to kill the parasites. Has
anyone used this before?



http://community.webtv.net/rebeljoe/POND



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Prazi can be added at any time and if you suspect that you have flukes, I
would say that the best time is before the water really starts to warm, as
the damage by the flukes is entry points for the bacteria that cause ulcers,
and the bacteria become active (around 50) before the immune system of the
fish (around 60). If you are not seeing flashing or have other reason to
suspect flukes, I would save my money for KoiZyme.
--
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http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"REBEL JOE" wrote in message
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How soon in spring should you treat your pond with this. It says water
temp don't matter but when would be best to kill the parasites. Has
anyone used this before?



http://community.webtv.net/rebeljoe/POND

Prazi can be added at any time and if you suspect that you have flukes, I
would say that the best time is before the water really starts to warm, as
the damage by the flukes is entry points for the bacteria that cause ulcers,
and the bacteria become active (around 50) before the immune system of the
fish (around 60). If you are not seeing flashing or have other reason to
suspect flukes, I would save my money for KoiZyme.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"REBEL JOE" wrote in message
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How soon in spring should you treat your pond with this. It says water
temp don't matter but when would be best to kill the parasites. Has
anyone used this before?



http://community.webtv.net/rebeljoe/POND

Prazi can be added at any time and if you suspect that you have flukes, I
would say that the best time is before the water really starts to warm, as
the damage by the flukes is entry points for the bacteria that cause ulcers,
and the bacteria become active (around 50) before the immune system of the
fish (around 60). If you are not seeing flashing or have other reason to
suspect flukes, I would save my money for KoiZyme.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"REBEL JOE" wrote in message
...
How soon in spring should you treat your pond with this. It says water
temp don't matter but when would be best to kill the parasites. Has
anyone used this before?



http://community.webtv.net/rebeljoe/POND

Prazi can be added at any time and if you suspect that you have flukes, I
would say that the best time is before the water really starts to warm, as
the damage by the flukes is entry points for the bacteria that cause ulcers,
and the bacteria become active (around 50) before the immune system of the
fish (around 60). If you are not seeing flashing or have other reason to
suspect flukes, I would save my money for KoiZyme.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"REBEL JOE" wrote in message
...
How soon in spring should you treat your pond with this. It says water
temp don't matter but when would be best to kill the parasites. Has
anyone used this before?



http://community.webtv.net/rebeljoe/POND

What I was doing was as a preventive. I heard that it will kill internal
parasites. So isn't"t this a good idea? I read you only need one
treatment in the spring. but was not sure of water temp.



http://community.webtv.net/rebeljoe/POND

Prazi is NOT formalin based. Prazi is gentle enough for puppies and kittens.
It will help to rid your fish of any internal parasites as well as the
external ones. As opposed to SupaVerm, Prazi is "approved" for use on ALL
fish, including tropicals and catfish. SupaVerm is actually a sheep dip; the
use of it for koi is in a "grey" zone - and it can ONLY be used on koi.
Other fish will die a very nasty death.

Prazi can be used independently of Proform-C, the combination of which
comprises the so-called Silver Bullet (formalin, malachite green and Prazi
will kill just about ANYthing other than the viruses), but it's a real pain
in the butt to dissolve. After shaking it for (what seemed like) forever, it
STILL hadn't dissolved to any appreciable state. I thought I'd get clever
and put it in the blender: Big Mistake. It will eventually dissolve in the
pond; directions are to dump it by the filter intake.

Winter temps will not bother the med, nor is a water change required after
its use - so it can stay there quite awhile. As the water warms, flukes
become more active and will cause more problems. Your choice: you can kill
'em now or kill 'em later.

KoiZyme is not a med, but a water additive used to reduce the numbers of the
aeromonas/pseudomonas bacteria that will induce ulcers in the areas munched
by flukes. It's very effective, but will not "cure" an ulcer if one is
already present. It's a preventative, not a cure.

Hope this helps.

Lee


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How soon in spring should you treat your pond with this. It says water
temp don't matter but when would be best to kill the parasites. Has
anyone used this before?



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http://cal.vet.upenn.edu/dxendopar/d...aziquantel.htm
"Parasite Targets: Tapeworms and trematodes.
Mode of action: Modulates cell membrane permeability (calcium dependent), leads to a
disintegration of the tapeworm’s tegument."

this medication is given as injection or orally to kill tapeworms and trematodes in
dogs and cats and "the drug of choice for all forms of schistosomiasis occurring in
humans. The report gives particular attention to questions of access for people in
the world's poorest countries in Africa where schistosomiasis is endemic. The
analysis of praziquantel"

http://www.public.iastate.edu/~day/r...esistance.html
its overuse is leading to resistance.

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/BODY_VM108
"Treatment of Internal Parasitism
Although tapeworms have not been discussed, the practitioner should be aware that
praziquantel is extremely effective in fish and can be delivered as a bath (10 mg/L
for three hours) or in a medicated food (100 mg/25g food, daily for seven days).
Praziquantel is also effective against monogenetic trematodes, and there are
anecdotal reports that it has some efficacy against degenetic trematodes as well."

It is a treatment for internal tapeworms. Ingrid


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Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

http://cal.vet.upenn.edu/dxendopar/d...aziquantel.htm
"Parasite Targets: Tapeworms and trematodes.
Mode of action: Modulates cell membrane permeability (calcium dependent), leads to a
disintegration of the tapeworm’s tegument."

this medication is given as injection or orally to kill tapeworms and trematodes in
dogs and cats and "the drug of choice for all forms of schistosomiasis occurring in
humans. The report gives particular attention to questions of access for people in
the world's poorest countries in Africa where schistosomiasis is endemic. The
analysis of praziquantel"

http://www.public.iastate.edu/~day/r...esistance.html
its overuse is leading to resistance.

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/BODY_VM108
"Treatment of Internal Parasitism
Although tapeworms have not been discussed, the practitioner should be aware that
praziquantel is extremely effective in fish and can be delivered as a bath (10 mg/L
for three hours) or in a medicated food (100 mg/25g food, daily for seven days).
Praziquantel is also effective against monogenetic trematodes, and there are
anecdotal reports that it has some efficacy against degenetic trematodes as well."

It is a treatment for internal tapeworms. Ingrid


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

http://cal.vet.upenn.edu/dxendopar/d...aziquantel.htm
"Parasite Targets: Tapeworms and trematodes.
Mode of action: Modulates cell membrane permeability (calcium dependent), leads to a
disintegration of the tapeworm’s tegument."

this medication is given as injection or orally to kill tapeworms and trematodes in
dogs and cats and "the drug of choice for all forms of schistosomiasis occurring in
humans. The report gives particular attention to questions of access for people in
the world's poorest countries in Africa where schistosomiasis is endemic. The
analysis of praziquantel"

http://www.public.iastate.edu/~day/r...esistance.html
its overuse is leading to resistance.

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/BODY_VM108
"Treatment of Internal Parasitism
Although tapeworms have not been discussed, the practitioner should be aware that
praziquantel is extremely effective in fish and can be delivered as a bath (10 mg/L
for three hours) or in a medicated food (100 mg/25g food, daily for seven days).
Praziquantel is also effective against monogenetic trematodes, and there are
anecdotal reports that it has some efficacy against degenetic trematodes as well."

It is a treatment for internal tapeworms. Ingrid


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

Thanks for all the help and info



http://community.webtv.net/rebeljoe/POND

I've been asking some questions regarding Prazi myself, on the KHA board.
Because of it being pricey, it's probably a good idea to scrape your fish
to see if they even need such a treatment. One of the nice things about
Prazi is that it won't hurt your filter and one treatment is all that is
needed as it stays active, as long as you don't dilute it with a water
change. One person with experience said he saw a lot of flashing after
treatment, so be prepared for that.

Who was the one that put it in the blender? What happened?

Regarding Koi-zyme, true it is not a cure, but seems to help a fish with
small ulcer starts, ime.


~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

I've been asking some questions regarding Prazi myself, on the KHA board.
Because of it being pricey, it's probably a good idea to scrape your fish
to see if they even need such a treatment. One of the nice things about
Prazi is that it won't hurt your filter and one treatment is all that is
needed as it stays active, as long as you don't dilute it with a water
change. One person with experience said he saw a lot of flashing after
treatment, so be prepared for that.

Who was the one that put it in the blender? What happened?

Regarding Koi-zyme, true it is not a cure, but seems to help a fish with
small ulcer starts, ime.


~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

I've been asking some questions regarding Prazi myself, on the KHA board.
Because of it being pricey, it's probably a good idea to scrape your fish
to see if they even need such a treatment. One of the nice things about
Prazi is that it won't hurt your filter and one treatment is all that is
needed as it stays active, as long as you don't dilute it with a water
change. One person with experience said he saw a lot of flashing after
treatment, so be prepared for that.

Who was the one that put it in the blender? What happened?

Regarding Koi-zyme, true it is not a cure, but seems to help a fish with
small ulcer starts, ime.


~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)