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Prazi (praziquantel) Help
How soon in spring should you treat your pond with this. It says water
temp don't matter but when would be best to kill the parasites. Has anyone used this before? http://community.webtv.net/rebeljoe/POND |
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Prazi (praziquantel) Help
do your fish have dacs? the stuff is pretty toxic all by itself. gyros are
treatable with PP if the fish are flashing and yes, it can be used in cold water. no formalin based product should be used in cold water. Ingrid (REBEL JOE) wrote: How soon in spring should you treat your pond with this. It says water temp don't matter but when would be best to kill the parasites. Has anyone used this before? http://community.webtv.net/rebeljoe/POND ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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Prazi can be added at any time and if you suspect that you have flukes, I
would say that the best time is before the water really starts to warm, as the damage by the flukes is entry points for the bacteria that cause ulcers, and the bacteria become active (around 50) before the immune system of the fish (around 60). If you are not seeing flashing or have other reason to suspect flukes, I would save my money for KoiZyme. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "REBEL JOE" wrote in message ... How soon in spring should you treat your pond with this. It says water temp don't matter but when would be best to kill the parasites. Has anyone used this before? http://community.webtv.net/rebeljoe/POND |
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Prazi can be added at any time and if you suspect that you have flukes, I
would say that the best time is before the water really starts to warm, as the damage by the flukes is entry points for the bacteria that cause ulcers, and the bacteria become active (around 50) before the immune system of the fish (around 60). If you are not seeing flashing or have other reason to suspect flukes, I would save my money for KoiZyme. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "REBEL JOE" wrote in message ... How soon in spring should you treat your pond with this. It says water temp don't matter but when would be best to kill the parasites. Has anyone used this before? http://community.webtv.net/rebeljoe/POND |
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Prazi can be added at any time and if you suspect that you have flukes, I
would say that the best time is before the water really starts to warm, as the damage by the flukes is entry points for the bacteria that cause ulcers, and the bacteria become active (around 50) before the immune system of the fish (around 60). If you are not seeing flashing or have other reason to suspect flukes, I would save my money for KoiZyme. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "REBEL JOE" wrote in message ... How soon in spring should you treat your pond with this. It says water temp don't matter but when would be best to kill the parasites. Has anyone used this before? http://community.webtv.net/rebeljoe/POND |
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Prazi (praziquantel) Help
Prazi can be added at any time and if you suspect that you have flukes, I
would say that the best time is before the water really starts to warm, as the damage by the flukes is entry points for the bacteria that cause ulcers, and the bacteria become active (around 50) before the immune system of the fish (around 60). If you are not seeing flashing or have other reason to suspect flukes, I would save my money for KoiZyme. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "REBEL JOE" wrote in message ... How soon in spring should you treat your pond with this. It says water temp don't matter but when would be best to kill the parasites. Has anyone used this before? http://community.webtv.net/rebeljoe/POND |
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What I was doing was as a preventive. I heard that it will kill internal
parasites. So isn't"t this a good idea? I read you only need one treatment in the spring. but was not sure of water temp. http://community.webtv.net/rebeljoe/POND |
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Prazi (praziquantel) Help
Prazi is NOT formalin based. Prazi is gentle enough for puppies and kittens.
It will help to rid your fish of any internal parasites as well as the external ones. As opposed to SupaVerm, Prazi is "approved" for use on ALL fish, including tropicals and catfish. SupaVerm is actually a sheep dip; the use of it for koi is in a "grey" zone - and it can ONLY be used on koi. Other fish will die a very nasty death. Prazi can be used independently of Proform-C, the combination of which comprises the so-called Silver Bullet (formalin, malachite green and Prazi will kill just about ANYthing other than the viruses), but it's a real pain in the butt to dissolve. After shaking it for (what seemed like) forever, it STILL hadn't dissolved to any appreciable state. I thought I'd get clever and put it in the blender: Big Mistake. It will eventually dissolve in the pond; directions are to dump it by the filter intake. Winter temps will not bother the med, nor is a water change required after its use - so it can stay there quite awhile. As the water warms, flukes become more active and will cause more problems. Your choice: you can kill 'em now or kill 'em later. KoiZyme is not a med, but a water additive used to reduce the numbers of the aeromonas/pseudomonas bacteria that will induce ulcers in the areas munched by flukes. It's very effective, but will not "cure" an ulcer if one is already present. It's a preventative, not a cure. Hope this helps. Lee "REBEL JOE" wrote in message ... How soon in spring should you treat your pond with this. It says water temp don't matter but when would be best to kill the parasites. Has anyone used this before? http://community.webtv.net/rebeljoe/POND |
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Prazi (praziquantel) Help
http://cal.vet.upenn.edu/dxendopar/d...aziquantel.htm
"Parasite Targets: Tapeworms and trematodes. Mode of action: Modulates cell membrane permeability (calcium dependent), leads to a disintegration of the tapeworm’s tegument." this medication is given as injection or orally to kill tapeworms and trematodes in dogs and cats and "the drug of choice for all forms of schistosomiasis occurring in humans. The report gives particular attention to questions of access for people in the world's poorest countries in Africa where schistosomiasis is endemic. The analysis of praziquantel" http://www.public.iastate.edu/~day/r...esistance.html its overuse is leading to resistance. http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/BODY_VM108 "Treatment of Internal Parasitism Although tapeworms have not been discussed, the practitioner should be aware that praziquantel is extremely effective in fish and can be delivered as a bath (10 mg/L for three hours) or in a medicated food (100 mg/25g food, daily for seven days). Praziquantel is also effective against monogenetic trematodes, and there are anecdotal reports that it has some efficacy against degenetic trematodes as well." It is a treatment for internal tapeworms. Ingrid ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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http://cal.vet.upenn.edu/dxendopar/d...aziquantel.htm
"Parasite Targets: Tapeworms and trematodes. Mode of action: Modulates cell membrane permeability (calcium dependent), leads to a disintegration of the tapeworm’s tegument." this medication is given as injection or orally to kill tapeworms and trematodes in dogs and cats and "the drug of choice for all forms of schistosomiasis occurring in humans. The report gives particular attention to questions of access for people in the world's poorest countries in Africa where schistosomiasis is endemic. The analysis of praziquantel" http://www.public.iastate.edu/~day/r...esistance.html its overuse is leading to resistance. http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/BODY_VM108 "Treatment of Internal Parasitism Although tapeworms have not been discussed, the practitioner should be aware that praziquantel is extremely effective in fish and can be delivered as a bath (10 mg/L for three hours) or in a medicated food (100 mg/25g food, daily for seven days). Praziquantel is also effective against monogenetic trematodes, and there are anecdotal reports that it has some efficacy against degenetic trematodes as well." It is a treatment for internal tapeworms. Ingrid ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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http://cal.vet.upenn.edu/dxendopar/d...aziquantel.htm
"Parasite Targets: Tapeworms and trematodes. Mode of action: Modulates cell membrane permeability (calcium dependent), leads to a disintegration of the tapeworm’s tegument." this medication is given as injection or orally to kill tapeworms and trematodes in dogs and cats and "the drug of choice for all forms of schistosomiasis occurring in humans. The report gives particular attention to questions of access for people in the world's poorest countries in Africa where schistosomiasis is endemic. The analysis of praziquantel" http://www.public.iastate.edu/~day/r...esistance.html its overuse is leading to resistance. http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/BODY_VM108 "Treatment of Internal Parasitism Although tapeworms have not been discussed, the practitioner should be aware that praziquantel is extremely effective in fish and can be delivered as a bath (10 mg/L for three hours) or in a medicated food (100 mg/25g food, daily for seven days). Praziquantel is also effective against monogenetic trematodes, and there are anecdotal reports that it has some efficacy against degenetic trematodes as well." It is a treatment for internal tapeworms. Ingrid ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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I've been asking some questions regarding Prazi myself, on the KHA board.
Because of it being pricey, it's probably a good idea to scrape your fish to see if they even need such a treatment. One of the nice things about Prazi is that it won't hurt your filter and one treatment is all that is needed as it stays active, as long as you don't dilute it with a water change. One person with experience said he saw a lot of flashing after treatment, so be prepared for that. Who was the one that put it in the blender? What happened? Regarding Koi-zyme, true it is not a cure, but seems to help a fish with small ulcer starts, ime. ~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?) |
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Prazi (praziquantel) Help
I've been asking some questions regarding Prazi myself, on the KHA board.
Because of it being pricey, it's probably a good idea to scrape your fish to see if they even need such a treatment. One of the nice things about Prazi is that it won't hurt your filter and one treatment is all that is needed as it stays active, as long as you don't dilute it with a water change. One person with experience said he saw a lot of flashing after treatment, so be prepared for that. Who was the one that put it in the blender? What happened? Regarding Koi-zyme, true it is not a cure, but seems to help a fish with small ulcer starts, ime. ~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?) |
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Prazi (praziquantel) Help
I've been asking some questions regarding Prazi myself, on the KHA board.
Because of it being pricey, it's probably a good idea to scrape your fish to see if they even need such a treatment. One of the nice things about Prazi is that it won't hurt your filter and one treatment is all that is needed as it stays active, as long as you don't dilute it with a water change. One person with experience said he saw a lot of flashing after treatment, so be prepared for that. Who was the one that put it in the blender? What happened? Regarding Koi-zyme, true it is not a cure, but seems to help a fish with small ulcer starts, ime. ~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?) |
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