"Terryc" wrote in message
FarmI wrote:

Terry have you tried to find stables (ie racing trainers, recreational
riding stables etc) round your area?

We know of Warrick Farm and a training place at Cobbity. We have been to
the Cobbity place once. It was lots of shavings and little poo.

The other problem is storing it for three months for the worming kill
stuff to disapate. Bit hard to handle half wool packs of the stuff.

I don't bother about the claims that it kills worms and never have bothered.
I spread it as soon as I pick it up and sometimes it's almost still on the
steaming side. I find that horse poop is the one animal manure that can be
spread very fresh (but of course I wouldn't put it very fresh on small
seedlings).

However, given your comment and how frequently I've read it in garden
forums, heard it in conversation etc, I did a google and found the following
at http://www.ext.colostate.edu/Pubs/livestk/01224.html

"The most common wormer used is known by the brand name Ivermectin® made by
the Merial Company. Merial's research shows that the active chemicals in
Ivermectin® are deactivated when manure is exposed to sunlight. Equine
studies show that 95 percent of the active chemicals in Ivermectin® are
deactivated in the horse before being passed in the feces. Leading experts
in vermicomposting believe that the concentration of Ivermectin® in the
horse manure is not high enough to seriously injure Eisenia."

HTH. From my own experience, I'd say try it, you'll like it.

Otterbot and I both swear by horse manure as being a wonderful amendment
for soil and as a cattle producer, poultry owner and child of former
poultry farmers, I can tell you that I would rather have horse poo than
any other manure.

Well, that is interesting. It might be just lack of exterience from the
other people that they never mention horse.

Might also be that it isn't available in small bags (20L) lots. It doesn't
worry us, but is a factor for some people.

Possible, but then it isn't a consideration for me either :-)) I get it by
the ute load or trailer load.

The reason why I suggest trying to find a stable complex somewhere in
your area is that on the fringes of suburbia, it is often a problem for
them to get rid of the poo and they usually let people come and load up
tralers full of the stuff. Or do you need to get it delivered?

We can do trailer and back of van loads no trouble (so far). I have a nice
collection of long handle shovels for loading {:-). It is just finding the
open places atm. I get told disease and public liability are issue.

I can understand the public liability aspect but I wonder what diseases they
have in mind. Can't think of any zoonoses but I guess they could be
thinking of tetanus I suppose.

top posting and coming into this discussion late, but there is almost
always and advert in one of the Campbelltown free papers (either the
Advertiser and the Chronicle) talking about mushy compost 10 bags for
$40, delivered free.

There used to be (~10 years ago) a mushroom farm outside Albion Park
Rail south of Wollongong who sold bags of spent mushroom compost for a
very reasonable price. Soggy, smelly bags, but great for growing
stuff and you could even get a small crop of mushies out of them
first!

HTH
Tish

On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:12:12 +1100, Terryc
wrote:

0tterbot wrote:

hm, can't help you with cow, but someone _always_ advertises in our local
paper to sell mushroom compost at (what seems to be) a very cheap price.
shall i get their details for you? we are southern tablelands - so i'm not
sure if that helps. i believe the ad says location isn't a problem (perhaps
he sends it?)

Well, I'm at Campbelltown, so I doubt if they would want to deliver that
far north, but it doesn't hurt to give them a ring and talk.

The best I ever did in mushie was a oncer just north of windor on the
northern road at that Ampol(?) servo just above that little place I can
not remember {:-).

The largish (wool bale base size) plastic bag they grew them in could be
had for $2 each. The major problem was lifting the then well decayed and
soggy bags into the back of the van.

This was before the Freeway went through to Beresford and we were doing
a trip to and from Cessnock.

We have come to the realisation that wee need to dump about a foot of
compost onto our garden soil to just get it up to basic good growing
level. We started with basic Sydney Sandstone derived soil that had been
drowned in chlorine/sal****er pool dumping for a few years (before us).
After years of adding a little bit more each year, it has finally dawned
that we really need to do a massive enrichment to overcome all the past
and get stuff growing well.

Even mulching every green thing we can (absolutely no green waste) is
not having much effect. So we figure a massive load might make next
spring a good rather than patchy growing season.

On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:03:34 +1100, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given
wrote:


"Terryc" wrote in message
...
My local "manure/compost" supplies are 20L bags of chicken, cow or
mushroom compost at a nearby chicken breeder.

I know the chicken breeder bags his own shed scrappings as the compost,
but I expect he buys in the cow and mushroom compost (probably bagged)
from another supplier.

Does anyone know of such a supplier in SW Sydney, or wider afield?

Supply of cow and mushroom has become a problem and I' prepared to buy in
bulk (pallet, wool bale or 100 bags) to get it.

Terry have you tried to find stables (ie racing trainers, recreational
riding stables etc) round your area?

Otterbot and I both swear by horse manure as being a wonderful amendment for
soil and as a cattle producer, poultry owner and child of former poultry
farmers, I can tell you that I would rather have horse poo than any other
manure.

The reason why I suggest trying to find a stable complex somewhere in your
area is that on the fringes of suburbia, it is often a problem for them to
get rid of the poo and they usually let people come and load up tralers full
of the stuff. Or do you need to get it delivered?


I got a couple of trailer-loads of great stable-waste from Warwick
Farm - one of the stables next to the race-course. It was mainly wood
shavings and horse-poo that had been well wettened by horse pee.
Because these horses are pretty-much stabled 24/7 there were no
discernible weeds in the stuff, although we did get a beaut growth of
oat grass :^)

Alternatively, contact me off-list and I'll put you in contact with a
Cambelltown rabbit breeder who has loads of bunny poo to give away to
whomever has the trailer to shift it (and she bags it all up too -
fabulous!). tsilberb at yahoo dot co dot uk

Tish

Tish wrote:
top posting and coming into this discussion late, but there is almost
always and advert in one of the Campbelltown free papers (either the
Advertiser and the Chronicle) talking about mushy compost 10 bags for
$40, delivered free.

Never seen it, but then I only browse the job pages and maybe skim the
rest. Will have a look.


i currently pay $3.30 each for the equivalent of a 20l bag. 70c for
delivery is fine. Great bag if they are the big bags.

FarmI wrote:

"The most common wormer used is known by the brand name Ivermectin® made by
the Merial Company. Merial's research shows that the active chemicals in
Ivermectin® are deactivated when manure is exposed to sunlight. Equine
studies show that 95 percent of the active chemicals in Ivermectin® are
deactivated in the horse before being passed in the feces. Leading experts
in vermicomposting believe that the concentration of Ivermectin® in the
horse manure is not high enough to seriously injure Eisenia."

HTH. From my own experience, I'd say try it, you'll like it.

I will.


Otterbot and I both swear by horse manure as being a wonderful amendment

So did my uncle last night, so that is three saying it is best.


I can understand the public liability aspect but I wonder what diseases they
have in mind. Can't think of any zoonoses but I guess they could be
thinking of tetanus I suppose.

I don't know. A few years ago, public liability insurance went throught
the roof and lots of people just closed access on many freebies as a
precaution. You just have to accept that the world has changed for the
worst.

wrote:

Cow manure ? perhaps not, but I'm sure in any Capital city you could
get plenty of BULL **** from around any politicians ....

Sadly, both of ours are very thin and immature.

Terryc wrote:
wrote:

Cow manure ? perhaps not, but I'm sure in any Capital city you could
get plenty of BULL **** from around any politicians ....


Sadly, both of ours are very thin and immature.

The place to go is Kirribilly house.
Here's the address..
Kirribilli Ave, Kirribilli, 2061, Sydney, NSW, Australia.
The security can be ignored as they will then give you the b*#%#%#%shit
for free.
Its upper class too!

hi, if your still looking for mushroom compost, i supply it straight from
the farm. i do charge
$4 per bag (approx 14 to 19kg bags),and if more than 15 bags are ordered i
usually deliver free, depending on location.
cameron 0407919573

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