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i was just surprised to read in the smh you can spray weeds with white
vinegar, (to kill them, not to make them taste better ;-)
(snip)

Gardening Aus recently had a show where the elderly chap in Qld (Colin
by name if I got his name right) had a whole lot of organic solutions
for probs. One of the organic solutions was the vinegar weedkiller, but
it's not just vinegar. The recipe is 1 Cup cooking salt (not iodised)
dissolves in a Litre vinegar - brush on weeds and dont' get it on
anything else because he says it'll kill it.
(snip)

You know I tried that vinegar and salt and you could leave the 2 togeth
for 10 years in a jar and you would have salt grains on the bottom and
vinegar on top. The salt doesn't dissolve even if you shook the jar for a
week

After reading what you wrote, I went and made up the mix.

I made up 4 batches using both malt vinegar and white vinegar and using
cooking salt and iodised salt and added a teaspoon of salt to half a cup
of the vinegar. Both types of salt dissolved in both types of vinegar.

The cooking salt in the white vinegar dissolves and leaves a clear
solution that looks like water.
The Iodised salt in the white vinegar leaves an opaque liquid but all of
the salt is dissolved.
The cooking salt in the malt vinegar looks like the normal malt vinegar.
The iodised salt in the malt vinegar has tiny bubbles on top whihc
dissipates in a short time and leaves the vinegar looking slightly murky
(so probably the eqivalent of the opague look of the white vinegar).

I put the mix in glasses so that I could look at the mix from underneath
and there is no sign of undissolved salt in any of the 4 glasses.

I then wondered if it had something to do with saturation levels of salt
in the solution so I then added an additional Tablespoon of cooking and
iodised salt to each of the vinegars and that too dissolved.

I wonder if a Tablespoon plus a teaspoon of salt in a half cup of vinegar
works out to be more or less proportionally to a cup of salt in a litre.
Anyway, the salt certainly does dissolve in the vinegar at least to a much
greater extent than your post implies.

I'll use these mixes tomorrow and see if they work.

I remember now I used kerosene and salt not vinegar. I watched the gardening
australia program so maybe got it wrong as to the ingredients! Colin
Campbell went through a few that day. I might get the jar out strain it add
vinegar and plonk the kero back in. I did paint the kero on a few things and
they did curl up their toes. I may go back to the program as the ABC has the
years shows archived.

Would be interested on the outcome of vinegar and salt though.

Cheers

Richard

***

Here's the link for the fact sheet from that show.
http://www.abc.net.au/gardening/stories/s2748810.htm

Larry

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I remember now I used kerosene and salt not vinegar. I watched the
gardening
australia program so maybe got it wrong as to the ingredients! Colin
Campbell went through a few that day. I might get the jar out strain it
add
vinegar and plonk the kero back in. I did paint the kero on a few things
and
they did curl up their toes.

i'd have assumed that kero would kill plants, even without salt...(?) i
don't want to use kero, though!!!! salt will also kill plants too, but i
think you'd make a much bigger problem than you started with, once the soil
was salty. also, it would take ages to even work, presumably. i'm kind of
wondering what extra benefit the salt confers... does anyone know?
kylie

0tterbot wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message
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I remember now I used kerosene and salt not vinegar. I watched the
gardening
australia program so maybe got it wrong as to the ingredients! Colin
Campbell went through a few that day. I might get the jar out strain it
add
vinegar and plonk the kero back in. I did paint the kero on a few things
and
they did curl up their toes.

i'd have assumed that kero would kill plants, even without salt...(?) i
don't want to use kero, though!!!! salt will also kill plants too, but i
think you'd make a much bigger problem than you started with, once the soil
was salty. also, it would take ages to even work, presumably. i'm kind of
wondering what extra benefit the salt confers... does anyone know?
kylie


Years ago when my son was at art school, we had a sudden wholesale death
of the awful weeds that kept growing up between the sandstone cobbles of
our front path. What could be doing it???? Those weeds were awful
stubborn and included a good old Scotch Thistle, which I defy anyone to
pull up with his hands.

Turns out, sonny-boy had been emptying his turps-and-linseed-oil mix
onto them when he'd finished painting. This worked like *mad* and we
didn't have a recurrence for years and years. They're back now, though.
And sonny-boy doesn't paint any more. Sigh... Pass the Zero...

--
Trish Brown {|:-}

Newcastle, NSW, Australia

Trish Brown wrote:
0tterbot wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message
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I remember now I used kerosene and salt not vinegar. I watched the
gardening
australia program so maybe got it wrong as to the ingredients! Colin
Campbell went through a few that day. I might get the jar out strain
it add
vinegar and plonk the kero back in. I did paint the kero on a few
things and
they did curl up their toes.

i'd have assumed that kero would kill plants, even without salt...(?)
i don't want to use kero, though!!!! salt will also kill plants too,
but i think you'd make a much bigger problem than you started with,
once the soil was salty. also, it would take ages to even work,
presumably. i'm kind of wondering what extra benefit the salt
confers... does anyone know?
kylie

Years ago when my son was at art school, we had a sudden wholesale death
of the awful weeds that kept growing up between the sandstone cobbles of
our front path. What could be doing it???? Those weeds were awful
stubborn and included a good old Scotch Thistle, which I defy anyone to
pull up with his hands.

Turns out, sonny-boy had been emptying his turps-and-linseed-oil mix
onto them when he'd finished painting. This worked like *mad* and we
didn't have a recurrence for years and years. They're back now, though.
And sonny-boy doesn't paint any more. Sigh... Pass the Zero...

raw kero or an motor spirit effect a high kill rate on webs , and the
surrounding few inches of dirt