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Old 19-03-2004, 11:12 AM
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Hi folks. I'm in Sydney and have been making compost in one of those square
based black plastic compost bins for a couple of years now. In the last two
months have found I have redbacks in all 4 corners and hiding in the handle
of the lid. This isn't the best as my two compost helpers are children and
I'd hate for them to get bitten!

First I tried squashing the spiders, must have missed some. A month later
there are more than ever. Then I tried a very light spray of baygon right
on the spider (don't want to kill all the "good" bugs!). Now they're back
and I'm running out of ideas.

Help?

Thanks!


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Old 20-03-2004, 12:15 AM
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Hello Agent Smith,

Do you have any spare Daddy Long Leg spiders inside. Migrate them to the
compost bin as I believe that they like redbacks for dinner. About the only
other way is to diligently treat the redbacks with a thong for a week or two
in case the yhave any eggs waiting to hatch.

Paul


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Hi folks. I'm in Sydney and have been making compost in one of those

square
based black plastic compost bins for a couple of years now. In the last

two
months have found I have redbacks in all 4 corners and hiding in the

handle
of the lid. This isn't the best as my two compost helpers are children

and
I'd hate for them to get bitten!

First I tried squashing the spiders, must have missed some. A month later
there are more than ever. Then I tried a very light spray of baygon right
on the spider (don't want to kill all the "good" bugs!). Now they're back
and I'm running out of ideas.

Help?

Thanks!




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Old 20-03-2004, 03:36 AM
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g'day john,

yeh baygon won't work they come back to life even after being
saturated in it. the best method i've used is you need to find the web
and i use a twig or something twist the spider and its egg sac around
the stick then burn that repeat for each spider found. you need to
look for where they are spreading from ie.,. other parts of your
garden/house maybe even neighbours. the daddylong leg will be a good
defence they don't actualy eat or kill the red back i don't think it
comes down to who has a web there first and the redback won't fight
for position or at least that's how i see it, other spiders to
introduce are the brown and the black house spiders the more other
webs you have around the less of the redback is what i have found.

check all outside furniture as well as the garbage bin.

len

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Old 20-03-2004, 03:42 AM
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g'day john,

yeh baygon won't work they come back to life even after being
saturated in it. the best method i've used is you need to find the web
and i use a twig or something twist the spider and its egg sac around
the stick then burn that repeat for each spider found. you need to
look for where they are spreading from ie.,. other parts of your
garden/house maybe even neighbours. the daddylong leg will be a good
defence they don't actualy eat or kill the red back i don't think it
comes down to who has a web there first and the redback won't fight
for position or at least that's how i see it, other spiders to
introduce are the brown and the black house spiders the more other
webs you have around the less of the redback is what i have found.

check all outside furniture as well as the garbage bin.

len

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--
happy gardening
'it works for me it could work for you,'

"in the end ya' gotta do what ya' gotta do" but consider others and the environment
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~gardenlen1/
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Old 21-03-2004, 10:42 AM
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Many thanks both Len and Paul!

Not sure why this poster put my post up as "john smith" since I've told it
my name is Stephanie. I love technology :-)

As soon as this rain lets up I'll be out there sorting out those redbacks.

thanks again.

Stephanie


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g'day john,

yeh baygon won't work they come back to life even after being
saturated in it. the best method i've used is you need to find the web
and i use a twig or something twist the spider and its egg sac around
the stick then burn that repeat for each spider found. you need to
look for where they are spreading from ie.,. other parts of your
garden/house maybe even neighbours. the daddylong leg will be a good
defence they don't actualy eat or kill the red back i don't think it
comes down to who has a web there first and the redback won't fight
for position or at least that's how i see it, other spiders to
introduce are the brown and the black house spiders the more other
webs you have around the less of the redback is what i have found.

check all outside furniture as well as the garbage bin.

len

snipped
--
happy gardening
'it works for me it could work for you,'

"in the end ya' gotta do what ya' gotta do" but consider others and the

environment
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~gardenlen1/





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Old 21-03-2004, 11:38 AM
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Many thanks both Len and Paul!

Not sure why this poster put my post up as "john smith" since I've told it
my name is Stephanie. I love technology :-)

As soon as this rain lets up I'll be out there sorting out those redbacks.

thanks again.

Stephanie


"len gardener" wrote in message
...
g'day john,

yeh baygon won't work they come back to life even after being
saturated in it. the best method i've used is you need to find the web
and i use a twig or something twist the spider and its egg sac around
the stick then burn that repeat for each spider found. you need to
look for where they are spreading from ie.,. other parts of your
garden/house maybe even neighbours. the daddylong leg will be a good
defence they don't actualy eat or kill the red back i don't think it
comes down to who has a web there first and the redback won't fight
for position or at least that's how i see it, other spiders to
introduce are the brown and the black house spiders the more other
webs you have around the less of the redback is what i have found.

check all outside furniture as well as the garbage bin.

len

snipped
--
happy gardening
'it works for me it could work for you,'

"in the end ya' gotta do what ya' gotta do" but consider others and the

environment
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~gardenlen1/



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Old 21-03-2004, 11:38 AM
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Many thanks both Len and Paul!

Not sure why this poster put my post up as "john smith" since I've told it
my name is Stephanie. I love technology :-)

As soon as this rain lets up I'll be out there sorting out those redbacks.

thanks again.

Stephanie


"len gardener" wrote in message
...
g'day john,

yeh baygon won't work they come back to life even after being
saturated in it. the best method i've used is you need to find the web
and i use a twig or something twist the spider and its egg sac around
the stick then burn that repeat for each spider found. you need to
look for where they are spreading from ie.,. other parts of your
garden/house maybe even neighbours. the daddylong leg will be a good
defence they don't actualy eat or kill the red back i don't think it
comes down to who has a web there first and the redback won't fight
for position or at least that's how i see it, other spiders to
introduce are the brown and the black house spiders the more other
webs you have around the less of the redback is what i have found.

check all outside furniture as well as the garbage bin.

len

snipped
--
happy gardening
'it works for me it could work for you,'

"in the end ya' gotta do what ya' gotta do" but consider others and the

environment
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~gardenlen1/



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Old 21-03-2004, 11:38 AM
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Many thanks both Len and Paul!

Not sure why this poster put my post up as "john smith" since I've told it
my name is Stephanie. I love technology :-)

As soon as this rain lets up I'll be out there sorting out those redbacks.

thanks again.

Stephanie


"len gardener" wrote in message
...
g'day john,

yeh baygon won't work they come back to life even after being
saturated in it. the best method i've used is you need to find the web
and i use a twig or something twist the spider and its egg sac around
the stick then burn that repeat for each spider found. you need to
look for where they are spreading from ie.,. other parts of your
garden/house maybe even neighbours. the daddylong leg will be a good
defence they don't actualy eat or kill the red back i don't think it
comes down to who has a web there first and the redback won't fight
for position or at least that's how i see it, other spiders to
introduce are the brown and the black house spiders the more other
webs you have around the less of the redback is what i have found.

check all outside furniture as well as the garbage bin.

len

snipped
--
happy gardening
'it works for me it could work for you,'

"in the end ya' gotta do what ya' gotta do" but consider others and the

environment
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~gardenlen1/



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Old 21-03-2004, 11:40 AM
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G'day Stephanie,
I'd much rather reply to a pretty girl than some bloke!

Not sure why this poster put my post up as "john smith" since I've told it
my name is Stephanie. I love technology :-)


If you are using "Outhouse Express" for your news groups, then select
Tools-Accounts-News-Properties and change the user info for news groups.
This is different from your mail settings.

I use a non-mailable address so I don't get heaps of spam. When I need to
send a post that I want someone to answer privately, I add my address to the
post but hide the @ or something like that so the "search robots" don't pick
it up.

As soon as this rain lets up I'll be out there sorting out those redbacks.


I have heaps of daddy longlegs around my place and don't often see redbacks.
They do eat other spiders as I have watched them do it on occasion, but
don't know about the redback. The daddy's are pretty quick to spin extra web
around their prey.

Hope this helps,
Peter


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G'day Stephanie,
I'd much rather reply to a pretty girl than some bloke!

Not sure why this poster put my post up as "john smith" since I've told it
my name is Stephanie. I love technology :-)


If you are using "Outhouse Express" for your news groups, then select
Tools-Accounts-News-Properties and change the user info for news groups.
This is different from your mail settings.

I use a non-mailable address so I don't get heaps of spam. When I need to
send a post that I want someone to answer privately, I add my address to the
post but hide the @ or something like that so the "search robots" don't pick
it up.

As soon as this rain lets up I'll be out there sorting out those redbacks.


I have heaps of daddy longlegs around my place and don't often see redbacks.
They do eat other spiders as I have watched them do it on occasion, but
don't know about the redback. The daddy's are pretty quick to spin extra web
around their prey.

Hope this helps,
Peter




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G'day Stephanie,
I'd much rather reply to a pretty girl than some bloke!

Not sure why this poster put my post up as "john smith" since I've told it
my name is Stephanie. I love technology :-)


If you are using "Outhouse Express" for your news groups, then select
Tools-Accounts-News-Properties and change the user info for news groups.
This is different from your mail settings.

I use a non-mailable address so I don't get heaps of spam. When I need to
send a post that I want someone to answer privately, I add my address to the
post but hide the @ or something like that so the "search robots" don't pick
it up.

As soon as this rain lets up I'll be out there sorting out those redbacks.


I have heaps of daddy longlegs around my place and don't often see redbacks.
They do eat other spiders as I have watched them do it on occasion, but
don't know about the redback. The daddy's are pretty quick to spin extra web
around their prey.

Hope this helps,
Peter


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G'day Stephanie,
I'd much rather reply to a pretty girl than some bloke!

Not sure why this poster put my post up as "john smith" since I've told it
my name is Stephanie. I love technology :-)


If you are using "Outhouse Express" for your news groups, then select
Tools-Accounts-News-Properties and change the user info for news groups.
This is different from your mail settings.

I use a non-mailable address so I don't get heaps of spam. When I need to
send a post that I want someone to answer privately, I add my address to the
post but hide the @ or something like that so the "search robots" don't pick
it up.

As soon as this rain lets up I'll be out there sorting out those redbacks.


I have heaps of daddy longlegs around my place and don't often see redbacks.
They do eat other spiders as I have watched them do it on occasion, but
don't know about the redback. The daddy's are pretty quick to spin extra web
around their prey.

Hope this helps,
Peter


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Old 24-03-2004, 10:32 AM
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In article ,
"john smith" wrote:

Hi folks. I'm in Sydney and have been making compost in one of those square
based black plastic compost bins for a couple of years now. In the last two
months have found I have redbacks in all 4 corners and hiding in the handle
of the lid.


I presume you are using the throw-your-waste-in-once-a-day method, and no
turning? And your heap has been pretty dry due to lack of moisture in either
the contents or the atmosphere?

Redbacks like dry, darkish, secluded places (that's why you find them in sheds
and dunnies). If you turn the heap, leave the lid off part of the time, or
hose it down (including the parts they're living in), they'll probably leave.
I also approve of the spray & thong methods in the meantime. Another thing:
you probably had one redback originally, but she's had babies!

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"Life is like a cigarette -- smoke it to the butt." -- Harvie Krumpet
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In article ,
"john smith" wrote:

Hi folks. I'm in Sydney and have been making compost in one of those square
based black plastic compost bins for a couple of years now. In the last two
months have found I have redbacks in all 4 corners and hiding in the handle
of the lid.


I presume you are using the throw-your-waste-in-once-a-day method, and no
turning? And your heap has been pretty dry due to lack of moisture in either
the contents or the atmosphere?

Redbacks like dry, darkish, secluded places (that's why you find them in sheds
and dunnies). If you turn the heap, leave the lid off part of the time, or
hose it down (including the parts they're living in), they'll probably leave.
I also approve of the spray & thong methods in the meantime. Another thing:
you probably had one redback originally, but she's had babies!

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

"Life is like a cigarette -- smoke it to the butt." -- Harvie Krumpet
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