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26-02-2003, 07:40 PM
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[IBC] Omigod Department
As part of two Introduction to Bonsai packages I am assembling for a Syracuse
Jewish Family Service auction, I am including two copies of Bonsai for Beginners by Craig Coussins, donated by Borders (patronize them; Barnes & Noble & Waldenbooks wouldn't give me the time of day). However, while leafing through it, I found a picture of a Scots pine in its native territory with the caption, "Pine branches point upward, except at the tip, which points down." What?! In the Northeast US, all the lower branches on pine trees point down & the tips point up, because of the heavy load of snow, even on what we call Scotch pines. I hastily penned in a little explanation. Remember that big argument we had a few years ago about the triangles? Iris "You must have a goal. Then you will know when you've failed." Garfield ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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27-02-2003, 03:53 AM
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[IBC] Omigod Department
From: Michael Persiano
"Pine branches point upward, except at the tip, which points down." What . . . Iris: Craig may be referring to the tertiary growth on Scots. Or Australian pine  Colin ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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27-02-2003, 03:16 PM
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[IBC] Omigod Department
In a message dated 2/26/03 3:45:00 PM, IASNOB writes:
Craig may be referring to the tertiary growth on Scots. Maybe, but even Scots pines grow with their older branches hanging down around here. It's the snow. The picture in Craig's book shows a Scots pine with its branches pointing up. A beginner from Central New York would be very confused. A few years ago, a well-known bonsai expert from California was critiquing the show at the MidAtlantic. He came to a conifer with the classic style of upper branches slanting up, middle branches pointing straight out, and lower branches slanting down. He said he didn't like it because it didn't look natural. I was very puzzled, but it didn't hit me until I was on my way home: Of course, he's from California. That's the way trees grow in the Northeast (and the mountains of Japan). In fact, I have to make a very conscious effort not to style my tropicals that way. Iris "You must have a goal. Then you know when you've failed." Garfield ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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27-02-2003, 03:16 PM
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[IBC] Omigod Department
In a message dated 2/27/2003 9:37:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, IrisCohen writes:
Maybe, but even Scots pines grow with their older branches hanging down around here. It's the snow. The picture in Craig's book shows a Scots pine with its branches pointing up. A beginner from Central New York would be very confused. And . . . Let watch those bonsai rules. );-) There should be no confusion. The natural growth habit of a specimen and the final presentation of that specimen are not necessarily in alignment--nor need they be. Cordially, Michael Persiano members.aol.com/iasnob/index.html ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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27-02-2003, 05:30 PM
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[IBC] Omigod Department
In a message dated 2/26/03 3:45:00 PM, IASNOB writes:
Craig may be referring to the tertiary growth on Scots. Maybe, but around here even Scots pines grow with their older branches hanging down. It's the snow. The picture in Craig's book shows a Scots pine with its branches pointing up. A beginner from Central New York would be very confused without a little explanation. A few years ago, a well-known bonsai expert from California was critiquing the show at the MidAtlantic. He came to a conifer with the classic style of upper branches slanting up, middle branches pointing straight out, and lower branches slanting down. That's the way trees grow in the Northeast (and the mountains of Japan). In fact, I have to make a very conscious effort not to style my tropicals that way. The expert said he didn't like it because it didn't look natural. I was very puzzled, but it didn't hit me until I was on my way home: Of course, he's from California. Iris "You must have a goal. Then you know when you've failed." Garfield ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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27-02-2003, 05:30 PM
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[IBC] Omigod Department
The natural growth habit of a specimen and the final presentation of that
specimen are not necessarily in alignment--nor need they be. Depends on what school you are from, and also the species under discussion. I don't belong to the Kimura school. To me, if the tree has some sort of artistic shape in nature, like a pine tree, I would like to capture the essence of it in bonsai. For those trees which don't look like anything in particular in nature, like Serissa or Grewia, then I would say style it any way you like and devil take the hindmost. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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27-02-2003, 06:19 PM
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[IBC] Omigod Department
From: Iris Cohen
.... For those trees which don't look like anything in particular in nature, like Serissa .... .... don't look like much as bonsai either ;o) Colin ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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