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Old 05-08-2003, 04:19 AM
Andy Rutledge
 
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Default [IBC] Reiner the Bear

Luke,

You have quite effectively distorted Reiner's words to the extent that your
arguments in response are irrelevant (and mostly erroneous). For instance,
you make the following observation/question:

"So age only matters when something "good"comes with it?!?"

In the context of bonsai, of course. That you don't understand that is
regrettable. Bonsai is an aesthetic endeavor, so when judging and
quantifying the physical/aesthetic elements of a bonsai, age is irrelevant
except to the extent that the age impacts the appearance and is referenced
in the context of the design. This is probably something with which you
should come to grips in the course of your bonsai study.

You also observe:

"And, BTW Reiner, if you think Kimura is classical then you'd better recheck
your grip on reality."

And I think that you'd better expand your clearly limited acquaintance with
Mr. Kimura's work. Mr. Kimura is a classicist in a documented tradition of
classicists, but with talents that allow him to have thrust innovation into
his work as well. Spend some time getting to know Mr. Kimura's body of work
and you will begin to appreciate how ridiculous was your admonishment to
Reiner.

These and other naive and inaccurate (and petty) observations in your post
beg response and illustrate clearly how "a little information is a dangerous
thing." You should learn to appreciate how honest and contextually accurate
(even opinionated) observations differ from petty, unfounded criticism.
Reiner's observations (in the gallery thread) were constructive and
accurate, though certainly tempered by opinion. Yours are merely petty (in
addition to being largely impertinent).

Your on-list tirade unnecessarily invites an on-list response - you should
probably have expressed your ill-conceived and misguided ire in the context
of the discussion you reference (if at all) and directed toward Reiner
rather than as an "expose'" of perceived poor behavior. Also, it helps to
be accurate in your characterization and your rebuttals.

Andy Rutledge
www.bonsai365.com/
zone 8, Texas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Luke Tulkas"
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Strange, to say the least. If it were me, I'd get a public slap on the
hand (by our ever watching moderator) in a second. Reiner, being an old
geezer, is of course untouchable in this respect. Well, folks, that's
about to change...


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