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24-08-2004, 06:30 PM
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Anil:
Regional growth habits are the key to answering this question: In the US, if q tree flowers before mid summer (July), it should be pruned immediately to ensure the development of new flower buds. If q tree flowers after mid summer, the tree should be pruned in late winter or early spring. Also, if you are using a high-nitrogen fertilizer, you will be pushing foliar rather than floral bud growth. In the early design years, this is desirable. As you achieve your design objectives, back off on the aggressive feeding to promote floral bud development. Cordially, Michael Persiano members.aol.com/iasnob ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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25-08-2004, 08:49 AM
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[IBC] Cotoneaster Flowering
Thankyou Jim, Marty and Michael for the information. I think there is substance in what Jim wrote. I was of the opinion that all flowering plants need acidic medium and some iron also. So we were using a compost rich in humus and manure. Watering was also liberal. But interestingly its cousin Pyracantha angustifola with the same treatment blooms profusely in the early spring, followed by green berries, which turn orange and then red in winters.
As for Marty's observation, the climatic condition in this part of North-West India are extremely variable. The maximum temperature during summers (May-June) goes more than 40 degrees C, whereas in winters the minimum hovers around 7 degrees sometimes drooping to 2-3 C. July and August is rainy season with occasional cloudbursts and torrential rains. And Michael, we have not done any pruning so far, so that the girth of the trunk is increased. Anil Bonsai Club (India) ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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25-08-2004, 11:27 AM
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Sorry, I've missed out on this thread. Your climate sounds fine to me.
What species of Cotoneaster are you talking of? I see several species growing wild on limestone hillsides here and flowering profusely. They are remarkably easy from cuttings, so I'd try a couple in a mix with some limestone added. The garden varieties prosper in poor soils too, so I think that you are giving them growing conditions that promote too much luxuriant growth. Good luck Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales -----Original Message----- From: Internet Bonsai Club ] On Behalf Of Anil Kaushik Sent: 25 August 2004 08:40 To: Subject: [IBC] Cotoneaster Flowering Thankyou Jim, Marty and Michael for the information. I think there is substance in what Jim wrote. I was of the opinion that all flowering plants need acidic medium and some iron also. So we were using a compost rich in humus and manure. Watering was also liberal. But interestingly its cousin Pyracantha angustifola with the same treatment blooms profusely in the early spring, followed by green berries, which turn orange and then red in winters. As for Marty's observation, the climatic condition in this part of North-West India are extremely variable. The maximum temperature during summers (May-June) goes more than 40 degrees C, whereas in winters the minimum hovers around 7 degrees sometimes drooping to 2-3 C. July and August is rainy season with occasional cloudbursts and torrential rains. And Michael, we have not done any pruning so far, so that the girth of the trunk is increased. Anil Bonsai Club (India) ************************************************** ********************** ******** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ********************** ******** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.744 / Virus Database: 496 - Release Date: 24/08/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.744 / Virus Database: 496 - Release Date: 24/08/2004 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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25-08-2004, 06:52 PM
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Sorry Kevin! I do not now the exact species, however it seems almost
confirmed that it should be grown in a compost which is alkaline, it should not be overwatered and fertilizer should be 0-10-10. Thanks to all for giving fruitful information. Anil Bonsai Club (India) ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin bailey" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 3:58 PM Subject: [IBC] Cotoneaster Flowering Sorry, I've missed out on this thread. Your climate sounds fine to me. What species of Cotoneaster are you talking of? I see several species growing wild on limestone hillsides here and flowering profusely. They are remarkably easy from cuttings, so I'd try a couple in a mix with some limestone added. The garden varieties prosper in poor soils too, so I think that you are giving them growing conditions that promote too much luxuriant growth. Good luck Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales -----Original Message----- From: Internet Bonsai Club ] On Behalf Of Anil Kaushik Sent: 25 August 2004 08:40 To: Subject: [IBC] Cotoneaster Flowering Thankyou Jim, Marty and Michael for the information. I think there is substance in what Jim wrote. I was of the opinion that all flowering plants need acidic medium and some iron also. So we were using a compost rich in humus and manure. Watering was also liberal. But interestingly its cousin Pyracantha angustifola with the same treatment blooms profusely in the early spring, followed by green berries, which turn orange and then red in winters. As for Marty's observation, the climatic condition in this part of North-West India are extremely variable. The maximum temperature during summers (May-June) goes more than 40 degrees C, whereas in winters the minimum hovers around 7 degrees sometimes drooping to 2-3 C. July and August is rainy season with occasional cloudbursts and torrential rains. And Michael, we have not done any pruning so far, so that the girth of the trunk is increased. Anil Bonsai Club (India) ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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25-08-2004, 06:52 PM
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Sorry Kevin! I do not now the exact species, however it seems almost
confirmed that it should be grown in a compost which is alkaline, it should not be overwatered and fertilizer should be 0-10-10. Thanks to all for giving fruitful information. Anil Bonsai Club (India) ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin bailey" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 3:58 PM Subject: [IBC] Cotoneaster Flowering Sorry, I've missed out on this thread. Your climate sounds fine to me. What species of Cotoneaster are you talking of? I see several species growing wild on limestone hillsides here and flowering profusely. They are remarkably easy from cuttings, so I'd try a couple in a mix with some limestone added. The garden varieties prosper in poor soils too, so I think that you are giving them growing conditions that promote too much luxuriant growth. Good luck Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales -----Original Message----- From: Internet Bonsai Club ] On Behalf Of Anil Kaushik Sent: 25 August 2004 08:40 To: Subject: [IBC] Cotoneaster Flowering Thankyou Jim, Marty and Michael for the information. I think there is substance in what Jim wrote. I was of the opinion that all flowering plants need acidic medium and some iron also. So we were using a compost rich in humus and manure. Watering was also liberal. But interestingly its cousin Pyracantha angustifola with the same treatment blooms profusely in the early spring, followed by green berries, which turn orange and then red in winters. As for Marty's observation, the climatic condition in this part of North-West India are extremely variable. The maximum temperature during summers (May-June) goes more than 40 degrees C, whereas in winters the minimum hovers around 7 degrees sometimes drooping to 2-3 C. July and August is rainy season with occasional cloudbursts and torrential rains. And Michael, we have not done any pruning so far, so that the girth of the trunk is increased. Anil Bonsai Club (India) ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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25-08-2004, 10:49 PM
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Also check out Cotoneaster at the BCI Species Guide at:
http://www.bonsai-bci.com/species/cotoneaster.html Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org -----Original Message----- From: Kaushik Sorry Kevin! I do not now the exact species, however it seems almost confirmed that it should be grown in a compost which is alkaline, it should not be overwatered and fertilizer should be 0-10-10. Thanks to all for giving fruitful information. Anil Bonsai Club (India) ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin bailey" Sorry, I've missed out on this thread. Your climate sounds fine to me. What species of Cotoneaster are you talking of? I see several species growing wild on limestone hillsides here and flowering profusely. They are remarkably easy from cuttings, so I'd try a couple in a mix with some limestone added. The garden varieties prosper in poor soils too, so I think that you are giving them growing conditions that promote too much luxuriant growth. Good luck Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales -----Original Message----- From: Anil Kaushik Thankyou Jim, Marty and Michael for the information. I think there is substance in what Jim wrote. I was of the opinion that all flowering plants need acidic medium and some iron also. So we were using a compost rich in humus and manure. Watering was also liberal. But interestingly its cousin Pyracantha angustifola with the same treatment blooms profusely in the early spring, followed by green berries, which turn orange and then red in winters. As for Marty's observation, the climatic condition in this part of North-West India are extremely variable. The maximum temperature during summers (May-June) goes more than 40 degrees C, whereas in winters the minimum hovers around 7 degrees sometimes drooping to 2-3 C. July and August is rainy season with occasional cloudbursts and torrential rains. And Michael, we have not done any pruning so far, so that the girth of the trunk is increased. Anil Bonsai Club (India) ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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25-08-2004, 10:49 PM
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Also check out Cotoneaster at the BCI Species Guide at:
http://www.bonsai-bci.com/species/cotoneaster.html Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org -----Original Message----- From: Kaushik Sorry Kevin! I do not now the exact species, however it seems almost confirmed that it should be grown in a compost which is alkaline, it should not be overwatered and fertilizer should be 0-10-10. Thanks to all for giving fruitful information. Anil Bonsai Club (India) ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin bailey" Sorry, I've missed out on this thread. Your climate sounds fine to me. What species of Cotoneaster are you talking of? I see several species growing wild on limestone hillsides here and flowering profusely. They are remarkably easy from cuttings, so I'd try a couple in a mix with some limestone added. The garden varieties prosper in poor soils too, so I think that you are giving them growing conditions that promote too much luxuriant growth. Good luck Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales -----Original Message----- From: Anil Kaushik Thankyou Jim, Marty and Michael for the information. I think there is substance in what Jim wrote. I was of the opinion that all flowering plants need acidic medium and some iron also. So we were using a compost rich in humus and manure. Watering was also liberal. But interestingly its cousin Pyracantha angustifola with the same treatment blooms profusely in the early spring, followed by green berries, which turn orange and then red in winters. As for Marty's observation, the climatic condition in this part of North-West India are extremely variable. The maximum temperature during summers (May-June) goes more than 40 degrees C, whereas in winters the minimum hovers around 7 degrees sometimes drooping to 2-3 C. July and August is rainy season with occasional cloudbursts and torrential rains. And Michael, we have not done any pruning so far, so that the girth of the trunk is increased. Anil Bonsai Club (India) ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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26-08-2004, 07:06 AM
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Thanks Alan I all the sites and found useful information.
Anil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Walker" To: Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 3:19 AM Subject: [IBC] Cotoneaster Flowering Also check out Cotoneaster at the BCI Species Guide at: http://www.bonsai-bci.com/species/cotoneaster.html Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org -----Original Message----- From: Kaushik Sorry Kevin! I do not now the exact species, however it seems almost confirmed that it should be grown in a compost which is alkaline, it should not be overwatered and fertilizer should be 0-10-10. Thanks to all for giving fruitful information. Anil Bonsai Club (India) ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin bailey" Sorry, I've missed out on this thread. Your climate sounds fine to me. What species of Cotoneaster are you talking of? I see several species growing wild on limestone hillsides here and flowering profusely. They are remarkably easy from cuttings, so I'd try a couple in a mix with some limestone added. The garden varieties prosper in poor soils too, so I think that you are giving them growing conditions that promote too much luxuriant growth. Good luck Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales -----Original Message----- From: Anil Kaushik Thankyou Jim, Marty and Michael for the information. I think there is substance in what Jim wrote. I was of the opinion that all flowering plants need acidic medium and some iron also. So we were using a compost rich in humus and manure. Watering was also liberal. But interestingly its cousin Pyracantha angustifola with the same treatment blooms profusely in the early spring, followed by green berries, which turn orange and then red in winters. As for Marty's observation, the climatic condition in this part of North-West India are extremely variable. The maximum temperature during summers (May-June) goes more than 40 degrees C, whereas in winters the minimum hovers around 7 degrees sometimes drooping to 2-3 C. July and August is rainy season with occasional cloudbursts and torrential rains. And Michael, we have not done any pruning so far, so that the girth of the trunk is increased. Anil Bonsai Club (India) ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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26-08-2004, 07:06 AM
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Thanks Alan I all the sites and found useful information.
Anil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Walker" To: Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 3:19 AM Subject: [IBC] Cotoneaster Flowering Also check out Cotoneaster at the BCI Species Guide at: http://www.bonsai-bci.com/species/cotoneaster.html Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org -----Original Message----- From: Kaushik Sorry Kevin! I do not now the exact species, however it seems almost confirmed that it should be grown in a compost which is alkaline, it should not be overwatered and fertilizer should be 0-10-10. Thanks to all for giving fruitful information. Anil Bonsai Club (India) ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin bailey" Sorry, I've missed out on this thread. Your climate sounds fine to me. What species of Cotoneaster are you talking of? I see several species growing wild on limestone hillsides here and flowering profusely. They are remarkably easy from cuttings, so I'd try a couple in a mix with some limestone added. The garden varieties prosper in poor soils too, so I think that you are giving them growing conditions that promote too much luxuriant growth. Good luck Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales -----Original Message----- From: Anil Kaushik Thankyou Jim, Marty and Michael for the information. I think there is substance in what Jim wrote. I was of the opinion that all flowering plants need acidic medium and some iron also. So we were using a compost rich in humus and manure. Watering was also liberal. But interestingly its cousin Pyracantha angustifola with the same treatment blooms profusely in the early spring, followed by green berries, which turn orange and then red in winters. As for Marty's observation, the climatic condition in this part of North-West India are extremely variable. The maximum temperature during summers (May-June) goes more than 40 degrees C, whereas in winters the minimum hovers around 7 degrees sometimes drooping to 2-3 C. July and August is rainy season with occasional cloudbursts and torrential rains. And Michael, we have not done any pruning so far, so that the girth of the trunk is increased. Anil Bonsai Club (India) ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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