In article ,
"Marie Dodge" wrote:

OK guys, my tomatoes are still covered with whitefly and their small green
babies that look like minute aphids. My friend, looking at them today, said
she believes they also have spider mites. Her eyesight is better than mine.
The NeemOil did almost nothing nor did the Seven dust or Malathion or
Bug-Be-Gone. I also sprayed the garden with 1 Tbs. Epsom Salt per gallon of
water and if anything, the failed peppers and infested tomatoes look worse
today. Any suggestions to save our crops this year? The squash are too far
gone with millions of white fly and borers. The squash crop will be removed
and burned tomorrow. It's impossible to get the sprays under all the many
thousands of leaves. Suggestions anyone... other than to torch the three
entire gardens.

Try Tobacco tea.

Worked for mom for aphids.

Soak some cigarettes in water.

Too bad you can't find and dump a bunch of ladybug larvae... IME,
natural predators work better than any pesticides if you can introduce
them in great enough numbers.

I bought lacewing eggs to control scale on my succulents.
Have not seen a scale since. :-)
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

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Omelet wrote:

In article ,
"Marie Dodge" wrote:

OK guys, my tomatoes are still covered with whitefly and their small green
babies that look like minute aphids. My friend, looking at them today, said
she believes they also have spider mites. Her eyesight is better than
mine.
The NeemOil did almost nothing nor did the Seven dust or Malathion or
Bug-Be-Gone. I also sprayed the garden with 1 Tbs. Epsom Salt per gallon of
water and if anything, the failed peppers and infested tomatoes look worse
today. Any suggestions to save our crops this year? The squash are too far
gone with millions of white fly and borers. The squash crop will be removed
and burned tomorrow. It's impossible to get the sprays under all the many
thousands of leaves. Suggestions anyone... other than to torch the three
entire gardens.

Try Tobacco tea.

Worked for mom for aphids.

Soak some cigarettes in water.

I haven't used this but the caution was that it is a wide range general
insecticide which is also toxic to mammals. If the nicotine in one
cigarette could get into your body, you would be dead.


Nicotine and Soap Wash.

This is for Aphids, Apple Sucker, Cuckoo Spit, Leaf Miners,
and all forms of young Caterpillars.

Nicotine (96 per cent purity)ŠŠ. 1 ? - 2 ? oz.
Soft SoapŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠ... 4 oz.
Soft WaterŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠ. 20 Gals.

Pour the Nicotine into the dissolved soap in the water, and apply as a
fine spray,

BUT

avoid using it on any plants the leaves of which are likely to be cooked
or eaten in less than four or five weeks. The same remark applies to
fruit.


Too bad you can't find and dump a bunch of ladybug larvae... IME,
natural predators work better than any pesticides if you can introduce
them in great enough numbers.

I bought lacewing eggs to control scale on my succulents.
Have not seen a scale since. :-)
--

Billy
Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related

"Billy" wrote in message
...

I haven't used this but the caution was that it is a wide range general
insecticide which is also toxic to mammals. If the nicotine in one
cigarette could get into your body, you would be dead.


Nicotine and Soap Wash.

This is for Aphids, Apple Sucker, Cuckoo Spit, Leaf Miners,
and all forms of young Caterpillars.

Nicotine (96 per cent purity)SS. 1 ? - 2 ? oz.
Soft SoapSSSSSSSSS... 4 oz.
Soft WaterSSSSSSSSS. 20 Gals.

What does SSSSSSSSS mean? I'll get some ciggies from my husband and soak
them. I spent so much on this garden already I hesitate to toss good money
after bad.


Pour the Nicotine into the dissolved soap in the water, and apply as a
fine spray,

BUT

avoid using it on any plants the leaves of which are likely to be cooked
or eaten in less than four or five weeks. The same remark applies to
fruit.

This is our tomatoes and peppers. In a month the toms will be rotten on the
ground if I can't can them in the next few weeks.



Too bad you can't find and dump a bunch of ladybug larvae... IME,
natural predators work better than any pesticides if you can introduce
them in great enough numbers.

I bought lacewing eggs to control scale on my succulents.
Have not seen a scale since. :-)
--

Billy
Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related

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,
Billy wrote:

Soak some cigarettes in water.

I haven't used this but the caution was that it is a wide range general
insecticide which is also toxic to mammals. If the nicotine in one
cigarette could get into your body, you would be dead.


Nicotine and Soap Wash.

This is for Aphids, Apple Sucker, Cuckoo Spit, Leaf Miners,
and all forms of young Caterpillars.

Nicotine (96 per cent purity)ŠŠ. 1 ? - 2 ? oz.
Soft SoapŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠ... 4 oz.
Soft WaterŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠ. 20 Gals.

Pour the Nicotine into the dissolved soap in the water, and apply as a
fine spray,

BUT

avoid using it on any plants the leaves of which are likely to be cooked
or eaten in less than four or five weeks. The same remark applies to
fruit.

Good caution. :-) As far as I know, mom only ever used it on Roses...
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

"Omelet" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Marie Dodge" wrote:

OK guys, my tomatoes are still covered with whitefly and their small
green
babies that look like minute aphids. My friend, looking at them today,
said
she believes they also have spider mites. Her eyesight is better than
mine.
The NeemOil did almost nothing nor did the Seven dust or Malathion or
Bug-Be-Gone. I also sprayed the garden with 1 Tbs. Epsom Salt per gallon
of
water and if anything, the failed peppers and infested tomatoes look
worse
today. Any suggestions to save our crops this year? The squash are too
far
gone with millions of white fly and borers. The squash crop will be
removed
and burned tomorrow. It's impossible to get the sprays under all the
many
thousands of leaves. Suggestions anyone... other than to torch the three
entire gardens.

Try Tobacco tea.

Worked for mom for aphids.

Soak some cigarettes in water.

Too bad you can't find and dump a bunch of ladybug larvae... IME,
natural predators work better than any pesticides if you can introduce
them in great enough numbers.

We're not rich enough to buy the numbers we would need to control this
whietfly and mite invasion. Also, it's well known here the ladybugs and
other beneficial insects/bugs don't hang around. In 48 hours they're gone
and you're back where you started but with a lighter wallet.


I bought lacewing eggs to control scale on my succulents.
Have not seen a scale since. :-)
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

In article ,
"Marie Dodge" wrote:

Too bad you can't find and dump a bunch of ladybug larvae... IME,
natural predators work better than any pesticides if you can introduce
them in great enough numbers.

We're not rich enough to buy the numbers we would need to control this
whietfly and mite invasion. Also, it's well known here the ladybugs and
other beneficial insects/bugs don't hang around. In 48 hours they're gone
and you're back where you started but with a lighter wallet.

Note I said "larvae". ;-) Those can't fly.

I collected a couple of hundred ladybugs a few years ago in the
parkinglot at work one night. They were all over the cars near a street
lamp! Guess it was a migration of some sort.

Brought them home and have had a lot of baby ones around ever since.
Guess they laid their eggs before leaving. :-)
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

"Omelet" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Marie Dodge" wrote:

Too bad you can't find and dump a bunch of ladybug larvae... IME,
natural predators work better than any pesticides if you can introduce
them in great enough numbers.

We're not rich enough to buy the numbers we would need to control this
whietfly and mite invasion. Also, it's well known here the ladybugs and
other beneficial insects/bugs don't hang around. In 48 hours they're gone
and you're back where you started but with a lighter wallet.

Note I said "larvae". ;-) Those can't fly.

I collected a couple of hundred ladybugs a few years ago in the
parkinglot at work one night. They were all over the cars near a street
lamp! Guess it was a migration of some sort.

Brought them home and have had a lot of baby ones around ever since.
Guess they laid their eggs before leaving. :-)

Wish I could find some free insects that eat spidermites and whitefly and
their larvae. Tomorrow I'm going to hit them with Need Oil and a dab of soap
again.

--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein