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Hi All,
What is greensand.?

Richard M. Watkin,

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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:42:05 -0500, "Marie Dodge"
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You spray sticky diluted molasses on the plants in summer? How can you
know
how much iron the plants are getting and how often do you do it? Also,
how
to you keep from drawing insects with something like molasses? Here
we'd
have problems with things like raccoons and possums.

One tablespoon to a gallon of water as a foliar spray along with
liquid seaweed. I have opossums and raccoons in my yard and they
don't have problems.


Mine don't have problems either, I have a problem with them.... they eat
my veggies! = O How often are you spraying your garden with the
Molasses? They don't sell liquid seaweed where I live. I don't care to
start ordering things online because the shipping is often as much as the
items to be shipped.

OK. I will Google them but just want you to know I've used it here for
at
least 15 years and have seen no problems. The gardens are still full of
toads and box turtles. Moles are still a serious pest at times.
Earthworms
and grubs thrive.....

Why did you ask a question if you already know the answer?


I asked what the issues were, the problems with Ironite since I haven't
had any problems using it.


Arsenic poisins the central nervous system, likewise copper and lead. I'm
not going to say it but...

One application of greensand will work for many years, unlike ironite or
seaweed which will quickly break down.



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Hi All,
What is greensand.?

Richard M. Watkin,


Just So happens greensand is mined 15 miles from here in Marlton, NJ.
USA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greensand

Iıd hazard a guess the town got itıs name from Marl.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marl

Iıve got a few hundred pounds of it scattered about from 30 years ago.
Breaks down slow I read.

Lots of these questions are answered in ³ Encyclopedia of ORGANIC
Gardening².

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw...ripbooks&field
-keywords=Encyclopedia+of+ORGANIC+Gardening&x=11&y= 11

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Hi All,
What is greensand.?


A mineral rich product people use in gardens.

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Hi Marie,
Thanks, but still not a lot wiser.

Richard M. Watkin,

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"R M. Watkin" wrote in message
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Hi All,
What is greensand.?


A mineral rich product people use in gardens.



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On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:10:42 +0100, "R M. Watkin"
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greensand

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A mineral rich product people use in gardens.


Thanks, but still not a lot wiser.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greensand


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On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:10:42 +0100, "R M. Watkin"
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greensand

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A mineral rich product people use in gardens.


Thanks, but still not a lot wiser.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greensand


Penelope


Hi Penelope,
Thanks, Will go to wikipedia and see what I can find out.

Richard M. Watkin,

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Hi Marie,
Thanks, but still not a lot wiser.

Richard M. Watkin,

And you never will be when talking to one who chooses to be deaf, blind,
and dumb.

You probably have seen the reference to greensand in Wikipedia, so let
me describe another thought. One pound of iron (shavings would be best
but use what you can get) in a plastic bucket, pour one can of cheap
soft drink over it and wait 24 hr.. If iron remains, repeat soft drink
addition. When iron is dissolved, it will cover 100 sq. ft.
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Billy wrote:
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"R M. Watkin" wrote:

Hi Marie,
Thanks, but still not a lot wiser.

Richard M. Watkin,

And you never will be when talking to one who chooses to be deaf, blind,
and dumb.

You probably have seen the reference to greensand in Wikipedia, so let
me describe another thought. One pound of iron (shavings would be best
but use what you can get) in a plastic bucket, pour one can of cheap
soft drink over it and wait 24 hr.. If iron remains, repeat soft drink
addition. When iron is dissolved, it will cover 100 sq. ft.



Why go to all that trouble (to make ferrous phosphate/carbonate/citrate)
when ferrous sulphate (copperas) is so cheap?

If you have iron filings, just sprinkle them around the garden.

A pound of iron should cover a lot more than 100 ft^2, but you're also
not going to dissolve it that easily. (Me thinks you are just pulling
this out of a dark place)

Bob
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Billy wrote:
In article ,
"R M. Watkin" wrote:

Hi Marie,
Thanks, but still not a lot wiser.

Richard M. Watkin,

And you never will be when talking to one who chooses to be deaf, blind,
and dumb.

You probably have seen the reference to greensand in Wikipedia, so let
me describe another thought. One pound of iron (shavings would be best
but use what you can get) in a plastic bucket, pour one can of cheap
soft drink over it and wait 24 hr.. If iron remains, repeat soft drink
addition. When iron is dissolved, it will cover 100 sq. ft.



Why go to all that trouble (to make ferrous phosphate/carbonate/citrate)
when ferrous sulphate (copperas) is so cheap?

If you have iron filings, just sprinkle them around the garden.

A pound of iron should cover a lot more than 100 ft^2, but you're also
not going to dissolve it that easily. (Me thinks you are just pulling
this out of a dark place)


I have been in error before, but I don't baffle gab. Now what lead you
to your egregiously erroneous conclusion?


Bob


http://www.garden-ville.com/4429490_36600.htm

ferrous sulfate --- FeSO4·7H2O (most common)


at. wt.
Fe = 55.845
S = 32
O = 16

SO4 = 96

H2O = 18

FeSO4·7H2O = 278

Fe / FeSO4·7H2O = .2 = 20%

----------------
Greensand 17% iron: 40 lb bag good for 700 sq. ft.

1 - 40 lb bag = 6.8 lb iron

6.8 lb iron / 700 sq. ft. = 0.00971429 lb / 1 sq. ft.

0.971429 lb / 100 sq. ft.

You can do arithmetic, can't you Bob?
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(Me thinks you are just pulling
this out of a dark place)



Like a lot of other stuff you're going to read on these gardening groups.
And if someone can't afford to buy and pay shipping costs on everything
recommended, they're insulted, degraded, belittled and more. I can see why
so many of the old posters from the 90s are no longer on these two groups.



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Hi, zxcvbob,
Thanks for that tip, I will make a not of it.

Richard M. Watkin.

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Billy wrote:
In article ,
"R M. Watkin" wrote:

Hi Marie,
Thanks, but still not a lot wiser.

Richard M. Watkin,

And you never will be when talking to one who chooses to be deaf, blind,
and dumb.

You probably have seen the reference to greensand in Wikipedia, so let me
describe another thought. One pound of iron (shavings would be best but
use what you can get) in a plastic bucket, pour one can of cheap soft
drink over it and wait 24 hr.. If iron remains, repeat soft drink
addition. When iron is dissolved, it will cover 100 sq. ft.



Why go to all that trouble (to make ferrous phosphate/carbonate/citrate)
when ferrous sulphate (copperas) is so cheap?

If you have iron filings, just sprinkle them around the garden.

A pound of iron should cover a lot more than 100 ft^2, but you're also not
going to dissolve it that easily. (Me thinks you are just pulling this
out of a dark place)

Bob



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