In article ,
"Suzanne D." wrote:

"Tonyfrost" wrote in message
news:1372d28f-f02c-4940-a23f-

And I would indeed lik to be part of this group. But if you don't
like newbies then just say it!!!!
___________________

They don't dislike newbies at all. I was a newbie once, and they were
perfectly pleasant to me. My first few posts were questions asking for
advice, which I readily got. After I had established myself for a few
months, I started to give advice when asked as well. I think what rubbed
people the wrong way is that you came here to show them what to do. On a
gardening group, it should probably be assumed that we already know about
gardening, and if we don't ask for advice on how to garden, we don't need
advice on how to garden. If I had come to this group with my first post
being, "Hey, experienced gardeners, let me tell you how to grow..." they
would probably have rolled their eyes at my arrogance too.
--S.

Stay and read, much can be learned here. Many here are Master Gardeners
and many have advanced degrees in Horticulture, Agriculture, Botany and
more. Pick their brains.

If one stays here, one needs to be on the phlegmatic side. Be calm,
words here cannot physically harm anyone. If some one tossed an insult,
just smile and keep on reading and posting. Do not worry about others
not liking your post. Who knows some else might like it.

Enjoy Life... Dan

--
Garden in Zone 5 South East Michigan.

On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:26:21 -0800 (PST), Tonyfrost
wrote:

On Feb 19, 2:00*am, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Tonyfrost" wrote in message

...

Fonyfrost: Well allright, I AM SORRY if you didn't like my article on green
tea,
I was just wanting to share it with you
to get some advice, but some of you seems to be a bit aggressive, *I
am a GARDENING LOVER OK?
______________________________________________
I don't recall you asking for advice but since you say you want some, what
do you want to know about tea gardens? *Or do you perhaps want to know what
plants can be used to make tea/tisanes?

Tonyfrost: And I would indeed lik to be part of this group. *But if you
don't
like newbies then just say it!!!!
__________________________________________
I don't think that this group is especially unwelcome to newbies, but since
we have had periodic visits from trolls, we are perhaps less tolerant than
we could be of newbies. *How about starting over and telling us a bit about
yourself and what sort of gardening you do.

Tonyfrost: If you want I can unsubscribe and look for another forum or
group.
Anyway I do live in Italy right now in a town called Cortona which is
in Tuscany, I can show you where I live and you'll fall in love. *Ok
hope we all get to be friends.
_________________________________________
You're in a lovely part of the world and living in an interesting place.
What plants do you grow there?

Ok well for the time being my garden is a bit ''undressed'' but
because in italy there is a very important fest every 2 months,
there's allways an excuse for good flowers.......... Anyway the top
flower at this time where I live is ''MIMOSA'' I don't know if anyone
of you there know it, but I have a whole tree in front of my window,
i'll take a picture and show it tomorrow,
Anyway let's say that it's a beautifull tree that provides yellow ball
flowers that have a wonderfull smell. And what italian men do every
8th of march is they buy some mimosa and give it as a present to any
girl or woman that they like, because that day is called ''women's
day'' over here, it's realy an amazing day, cuz even the girls at
school are interrupted by flower vendors that bring them these flowers
to them that have actually been bought by their ''lovers'', so it's a
great day and I can't wait, cuz I have like loads to sell !!!! I'll
tell more about my garden later anyway.

Mimosa flowers do smell wonderful. They come up like weeds in my part
of the world - I have 4-5 mimosa trees and dozens of seedlings each
year that it hurts to weed out. They're the last of the trees to
flower in my yard, middle TN, USA.

"Tonyfrost" wrote in message news:a56a7318-
Tonyfrost: Ok well for the time being my garden is a bit ''undressed'' but
because in italy there is a very important fest every 2 months,
there's allways an excuse for good flowers.......... Anyway the top
flower at this time where I live is ''MIMOSA'' I don't know if anyone
of you there know it,
_____________________________________________
I know it very well as I live in Australia where nearly two thirds of the
world's species of Acacia are natives. What you and many people of the
world call 'Mimosa', we in Australia call Wattle. We have prostrate forms,
weeping forms, tree forms and shrub forms and it's possible to have a wattle
in flower 365 days of the year if a gardener chooses wisely.

Tonyfrost: but I have a whole tree in front of my window,
i'll take a picture and show it tomorrow,
Anyway let's say that it's a beautifull tree that provides yellow ball
flowers that have a wonderfull smell. And what italian men do every
8th of march is they buy some mimosa and give it as a present to any
girl or woman that they like, because that day is called ''women's
day'' over here, it's realy an amazing day, cuz even the girls at
school are interrupted by flower vendors that bring them these flowers
to them that have actually been bought by their ''lovers'', so it's a
great day and I can't wait, cuz I have like loads to sell !!!! I'll
tell more about my garden later anyway.
___________________________________
Here in Oz, there was an old belief that having wattle (mimosa) indoors was
very unlucky. I don't believe that but since they are so lovely int he
garden and in the wild, I don't see any point in cutting it to bring it
indoors.

When I lived in London in the mid 70s, I remember seeing some wattle for
sale and of course it was labelled 'mimosa', but it was a species of
Australian wattle. I was so homesick that I bought some. Of course it soon
died and really I should have just kept walking as buying it made me even
more homesick.

In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Wildbilly" wrote in message
Tonyfrost wrote:

Hey freak! What the heck do you want from me????? What is it that
you're trying to say that I'm selling ads?????? I just love
tea!!!!!!! And woul dlove to grow tea at my house ok? What's your
problem

You post "How to Grow a Tea Garden", in a vegetable garden newsgroup!
And then the site that you give us says "put potting soil in pot, and
plant herb", close quotes. Did you just fall off the turnip truck, out
on the interstate? Your ignorance of the subject is offensive. An being
a freak is far better than being an aluminum siding, used car, "tea bag"
anal sphincter, to come into a forum where you know squat, and try to
run the "hits" routine on us. Go bugger yourself.

What Wildbilly is trying to say in a very Wildbilly way, is to take it easy.
You have joined an established group which is the societal equivalent of a
community. You've accused a regular poster here of being rude, but then
have you read here for long enough so that the personalities of the posters
are known to you, or followed the interactions between individuals? Can you
recognise the twits and separate them from those who give good advice?

Wildbilly is a regular so he's one of us and we're used to him. That does
not mean that we necessarily share the same opinions or never have
disagreements with him, but we do know him whereas we don't know you.
Wildbilly has a presence and a personality known to regular readers and
posters, you don't yet. If you choose to remain, hang around and read for a
while and then ease yourself into the group.

Tony: A tea garden is a delightful hobby that can complement your herb
garden and will provide you with the joy of fresh tea at a moment's
notice. . . her's (?, Here's) a beautifully made guide to grow tea in
anyway at home!!!!
http://www.wikihow.com/notrealsite

Tony's freakin' web site:

Herbal-Tea-Garden

References to "tea" below should be understood to refer to herbal* tea.
Creating the Tea Garden
1
Select a large container or a part of your existing herb garden. Either
method for a tea garden is fine, as long as it is convenient for you.

Ads by Google
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Over $35!
www.tgtea.com/Herbal

2
Prepare the soil or pot. Prepare the soil or pot as you would do
normally for planting herbs or flowers.

3
Choose your herbs. There are quite a few herbs and flowers that are
suitable for making herbal teas. Your choice is dependent on what
flavors you like the most and what will grow best for you. The following
is a mere selection of good possibilities:

yada, yada, yada

4
Follow the growing instructions for each plant.
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A total of 7 suckers paid for ads on this page.

Billy: We are a gardening group pal.

Tony: Hey freak! What the heck do you want from me????? . . . I just love
tea!!!!!!! And woul dlove** to grow tea at my house ok? What's your
problem?

Tony: Well allright, I AM SORRY if you didn't like my article on green
tea***, I was just wanting to share it with you to get some advice, but
some of you seems to be a bit aggressive, I am a GARDENING LOVER OK?
------

OK, it's given that Tony is too dumb to have written the web site, so
he's off the hook for trying to rope in the suckers.

I guess that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I wouldn't call the
web page beautiful in any regard.

First, there is the dissonance between "A tea garden is a delightful
hobby that can complement your herb garden and will provide you with the
joy of fresh tea . . .", and I just love tea!!!!!!! And woul dlove** to
grow tea at my house ok?

There is the delight and joy of tea gardening followed by the
conditional "would", as in "I just love tea!!!!!!! And woul dlove** to
grow tea at my house."
------
It would appear that Tony doesn't actually participate in the delight
and joy of tea gardening, but cherishes the thought of it instead.

Apparently, Tony barely stopped long enough at the site to cut and
paste, because it says, right at the top, "References to "tea" below
should be understood to refer to herbal* tea."

Tony: "Well allright, I AM SORRY if you didn't like my article on green
tea***."
-----
He still doesn't get it. Apparently, he doesn't know what a tisane, or
an infusion is.

Tony, I found the web sight to be offensive and insulting, because there
was no information on the gardener/plant interaction (watering, feeding,
light, temperatures) and you were posing. You wouldn't know a Camellia
sinensis, if you fell over it.

Tony, (or anyone else) you don't have to impress anybody. If you think
you can help a poster here, please respond to them.

Tony, (or anyone else) if you have questions, ask, and provide
information about soil, and weather that pertain to your problem. If you
just want to be a ******, and a poser, move to Los Angles.

Capisce?

You'd do well to follow Farms advice.

--------

Here (N. Calif.) the peach trees are blooming. The rhubarb has put out
its first leaves, and a dozen or so overlooked potatoes have popped up.
I rewarded the potatoes with coffee grounds. I seeded my beds with rye
and buckwheat, and the buckwheat seems to be growing best.

Rainy this weekend, I hope to get back out to the garden next week. I
need the exercise.

Inside, the tomatoes, and peas have germinated, and the first of the
peppers poked its head up today (a sweet banana pepper).
--
³When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist.²
-Archbishop Helder Camara
http://tinyurl.com/o63ruj
http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm

In article a56a7318-a551-4362-bd50-
, says...

of you there know it, but I have a whole tree in front of my window,
i'll take a picture and show it tomorrow,

This is a text only newsgroup.

Don't post images to this newsgroup.

If you must post garden pictures to USENET and want people here to see
them, post them to alt.binaries.pictures.gardens and then leave a note
here with the subject header.

Otherwise use flickr or some such and post a link.

If Google is up to snuff, it's likely they'll strip out the image
anyway. If they don't, other servers probably will as the posting
propagates through the network.

Get a newsreader or use Outlook or Thunderbird and set up an account at
http://www.eternal-september.org/

This is the most efficient and comprehensible way of communicating on
USENET. Googlegroups is virtually useless by comparison.

There's more to learn about USENET than you think.

Start here

http://www.newsreaders.com/guide/netiquette.html (follow the links)

Check USENET out on Wikipedia if you want history and other data.

On Feb 19, 2:22*pm, phorbin wrote:
In article a56a7318-a551-4362-bd50-
, says...

of you there know it, but I have a whole tree in front of my window,
i'll take a picture and show it tomorrow,

This is a text only newsgroup.

Don't post images to this newsgroup.

If you must post garden pictures to USENET and want people here to see
them, post them to alt.binaries.pictures.gardens and then leave a note
here with the subject header.

Otherwise use flickr or some such and post a link.

If Google is up to snuff, it's likely they'll strip out the image
anyway. If they don't, other servers probably will as the posting
propagates through the network.

Get a newsreader or use Outlook or Thunderbird and set up an account athttp://www.eternal-september.org/

This is the most efficient and comprehensible way of communicating on
USENET. Googlegroups is virtually useless by comparison.

There's more to learn about USENET than you think.

Start here

http://www.newsreaders.com/guide/netiquette.html* (follow the links)

Check USENET out on Wikipedia if you want history and other data.

Is this group on facebook too?

In article 32aaea79-0678-40c1-84dc-69dc2ae415e6
@l19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com, says...
On Feb 19, 2:22*pm, phorbin wrote:
In article a56a7318-a551-4362-bd50-
, says...

of you there know it, but I have a whole tree in front of my window,
i'll take a picture and show it tomorrow,

This is a text only newsgroup.

Don't post images to this newsgroup.

If you must post garden pictures to USENET and want people here to see
them, post them to alt.binaries.pictures.gardens and then leave a note
here with the subject header.

Otherwise use flickr or some such and post a link.

If Google is up to snuff, it's likely they'll strip out the image
anyway. If they don't, other servers probably will as the posting
propagates through the network.

Get a newsreader or use Outlook or Thunderbird and set up an account athttp://www.eternal-september.org/

This is the most efficient and comprehensible way of communicating on
USENET. Googlegroups is virtually useless by comparison.

There's more to learn about USENET than you think.

Start here

http://www.newsreaders.com/guide/netiquette.html* (follow the links)

Check USENET out on Wikipedia if you want history and other data.

Is this group on facebook too?

No. It isn't. ...And while it's called a newsgroup I'm pretty sure it's
not what you seem to think it is.

Have you read through the page I referred you to and read the links?

If you have then maybe there's something to discuss. Until you do,
there's nothing more to say because we don't have any hint of a common
language and I've no time to bring you up to speed.

Many of the questions you need answered will be dealt with there and you
won't have to ask questions that irrascible old hands tend to answer in
monosyllables.

In article , phorbin1
@yahoo.com says...

Is this group on facebook too?

No. It isn't. ...And while it's called a newsgroup I'm pretty sure it's
not what you seem to think it is.

By your question, do you mean can you post a link to something on
facebook?

And the answer is yes. The problem with using facebook is, who gets to
see it.

I suggested Flickr because it's known and openly accessible without
having to be a member.