I grew courgettes in planters this year....decent crop, but the plants died early with the leaves turning sort of powdery grey. Can anyone recommend a good reliable variety?
Likewise spring onions. Tried them in planters and sections of rain guttering. They grew to only a tiny size, despite watering, rich soil, TLC etc.
Red onions...planted them in sets and they just struggled and died. Again decent clay soil with plenty of nutrient. They were in a dappled shady piosition, do onions need full sun?
Any advice, suggestion etc gratefully appreciated.
Andrew

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asgilbert wrote:

I grew courgettes in planters this year....decent crop, but the plants
died early with the leaves turning sort of powdery grey. Can anyone
recommend a good reliable variety?
Likewise spring onions. Tried them in planters and sections of rain
guttering. They grew to only a tiny size, despite watering, rich soil,
TLC etc.
Red onions...planted them in sets and they just struggled and died.
Again decent clay soil with plenty of nutrient. They were in a dappled
shady piosition, do onions need full sun?
Any advice, suggestion etc gratefully appreciated.
Andrew

What happened to your courgettes is what happens to Cucurbitaceae when
the weather cools and there leaves get damp. They will last longer if
you can keep water off their leaves during the growing season. Even if
the mold doesn't sprout right away, it establishes itself for when the
plant is vulnerable.

Perhaps your onions didn't get enough drainage, and most garden plants
can't get too much sun.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug

asgilbert wrote:
I grew courgettes in planters this year....decent crop, but the plants
died early with the leaves turning sort of powdery grey. Can anyone
recommend a good reliable variety?

Powdery mildew will strike all the cultivars that I have seen if the
conditions suit the fungus, ie warm and wet.

David

Thompson and Morgan sell a variety of Courgette which we have found to be resistent to Mildew. Not sure of the name off hand, but it is advertised as such.
Onions adore sun. And do not omplain too much about Spring onions, in 40 odd years of growing veg I have never even managed to get the seeds to germinate, never mind grow to any size. And before you all jump in and tell me how to do it, I have tried every single method ever suggested without success.

Owdboggy wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;906617']asgilbert wrote:-
I grew courgettes in planters this year....decent crop, but the
plants
died early with the leaves turning sort of powdery grey. Can anyone
recommend a good reliable variety?-

Powdery mildew will strike all the cultivars that I have seen if the
conditions suit the fungus, ie warm and wet.

David

Thompson and Morgan sell a variety of Courgette which we have found to
be resistent to Mildew. Not sure of the name off hand, but it is
advertised as such.
Onions adore sun. And do not omplain too much about Spring onions, in
40 odd years of growing veg I have never even managed to get the seeds
to germinate, never mind grow to any size. And before you all jump in
and tell me how to do it, I have tried every single method ever
suggested without success.

Another cause of powdery mildew is lack of air flow. If your plants are
protected from the wind, mold will be a problem. Too many plants
crowding each other will also prevent air flow. If plants are indoors a
small fan will also help plants.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

In article ,
Dan L wrote:

Owdboggy wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;906617']asgilbert wrote:-
I grew courgettes in planters this year....decent crop, but the
plants
died early with the leaves turning sort of powdery grey. Can anyone
recommend a good reliable variety?-

Powdery mildew will strike all the cultivars that I have seen if the
conditions suit the fungus, ie warm and wet.

David

Thompson and Morgan sell a variety of Courgette which we have found to
be resistent to Mildew. Not sure of the name off hand, but it is
advertised as such.
Onions adore sun. And do not omplain too much about Spring onions, in
40 odd years of growing veg I have never even managed to get the seeds
to germinate, never mind grow to any size. And before you all jump in
and tell me how to do it, I have tried every single method ever
suggested without success.

Another cause of powdery mildew is lack of air flow. If your plants are
protected from the wind, mold will be a problem. Too many plants
crowding each other will also prevent air flow. If plants are indoors a
small fan will also help plants.

Indoor zukes?

There were problems this year with the north "Bay" grape harvest. A
cool, damp summer gave way to a cool fall. Fearing mold, and mildew,
vineyardists pruned back the vines foliage to allow better penetration
of sun and air. That's when we got a week of heat that sunburned many of
the grapes, creating points of infection for the molds and mildews. Then
as quick as you could say "Bob's your uncle", we started getting light
rains. The winery where I worked lost a third of its crop.

Agriculture isn't for the faint at heart.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Dan L wrote:

Owdboggy wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;906617']asgilbert wrote:-
I grew courgettes in planters this year....decent crop, but the
plants
died early with the leaves turning sort of powdery grey. Can anyone
recommend a good reliable variety?-

Powdery mildew will strike all the cultivars that I have seen if the
conditions suit the fungus, ie warm and wet.

David

Thompson and Morgan sell a variety of Courgette which we have found to
be resistent to Mildew. Not sure of the name off hand, but it is
advertised as such.
Onions adore sun. And do not omplain too much about Spring onions, in
40 odd years of growing veg I have never even managed to get the seeds
to germinate, never mind grow to any size. And before you all jump in
and tell me how to do it, I have tried every single method ever
suggested without success.

Another cause of powdery mildew is lack of air flow. If your plants are
protected from the wind, mold will be a problem. Too many plants
crowding each other will also prevent air flow. If plants are indoors a
small fan will also help plants.

Indoor zukes?

There were problems this year with the north "Bay" grape harvest. A
cool, damp summer gave way to a cool fall. Fearing mold, and mildew,
vineyardists pruned back the vines foliage to allow better penetration
of sun and air. That's when we got a week of heat that sunburned many of
the grapes, creating points of infection for the molds and mildews. Then
as quick as you could say "Bob's your uncle", we started getting light
rains. The winery where I worked lost a third of its crop.

Agriculture isn't for the faint at heart.

It is an art complex but worth the work. Next year promises to be
exceptional Pan told me.

--
Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden

Daniel Moynihan and Dennis Kucinich in 2012 !

In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Dan L wrote:

Owdboggy wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;906617']asgilbert wrote:-
I grew courgettes in planters this year....decent crop, but the
plants
died early with the leaves turning sort of powdery grey. Can anyone
recommend a good reliable variety?-

Powdery mildew will strike all the cultivars that I have seen if the
conditions suit the fungus, ie warm and wet.

David

Thompson and Morgan sell a variety of Courgette which we have found to
be resistent to Mildew. Not sure of the name off hand, but it is
advertised as such.
Onions adore sun. And do not omplain too much about Spring onions, in
40 odd years of growing veg I have never even managed to get the seeds
to germinate, never mind grow to any size. And before you all jump in
and tell me how to do it, I have tried every single method ever
suggested without success.

Another cause of powdery mildew is lack of air flow. If your plants are
protected from the wind, mold will be a problem. Too many plants
crowding each other will also prevent air flow. If plants are indoors a
small fan will also help plants.

Indoor zukes?

There were problems this year with the north "Bay" grape harvest. A
cool, damp summer gave way to a cool fall. Fearing mold, and mildew,
vineyardists pruned back the vines foliage to allow better penetration
of sun and air. That's when we got a week of heat that sunburned many of
the grapes, creating points of infection for the molds and mildews. Then
as quick as you could say "Bob's your uncle", we started getting light
rains. The winery where I worked lost a third of its crop.

Agriculture isn't for the faint at heart.

It is an art complex but worth the work. Next year promises to be
exceptional Pan told me.

The plans are already in progress :O)
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug

Billy wrote:
In article ,
Dan L wrote:

Owdboggy wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;906617']asgilbert wrote:-
I grew courgettes in planters this year....decent crop, but the
plants
died early with the leaves turning sort of powdery grey. Can anyone
recommend a good reliable variety?-

Powdery mildew will strike all the cultivars that I have seen if
the
conditions suit the fungus, ie warm and wet.

David

Thompson and Morgan sell a variety of Courgette which we have found
to
be resistent to Mildew. Not sure of the name off hand, but it is
advertised as such.
Onions adore sun. And do not omplain too much about Spring onions,
in
40 odd years of growing veg I have never even managed to get the
seeds
to germinate, never mind grow to any size. And before you all jump
in
and tell me how to do it, I have tried every single method ever
suggested without success.

Another cause of powdery mildew is lack of air flow. If your plants
are
protected from the wind, mold will be a problem. Too many plants
crowding each other will also prevent air flow. If plants are indoors
a
small fan will also help plants.

Indoor zukes?

There were problems this year with the north "Bay" grape harvest. A
cool, damp summer gave way to a cool fall. Fearing mold, and mildew,
vineyardists pruned back the vines foliage to allow better penetration

of sun and air. That's when we got a week of heat that sunburned many
of
the grapes, creating points of infection for the molds and mildews.
Then
as quick as you could say "Bob's your uncle", we started getting light

rains. The winery where I worked lost a third of its crop.

Agriculture isn't for the faint at heart.

Or the optimist

I was thinking perhaps greenhouses. They sometimes do not get good air
circulation. Also this is the first post were someone grew Courgettes in
pots that I know of. I also wonder what size of pots are used? They
would need at least a five gallon container.

Another thought, you stated ZUKES, I was thinking squash not cucumbers.
There are varieties of cucumbers called pickling cucumbers that will die
if the cucumbers get large and go to seed. So if I am wrong and the OP
was growing pickling cucumbers then that is the reason for the plants
early demise. Is there a variety of squash that acts like pickling
cucumbers?

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

In article ,
Dan L wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
Dan L wrote:

Owdboggy wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;906617']asgilbert wrote:-
I grew courgettes in planters this year....decent crop, but the
plants
died early with the leaves turning sort of powdery grey. Can anyone
recommend a good reliable variety?-

Powdery mildew will strike all the cultivars that I have seen if
the
conditions suit the fungus, ie warm and wet.

David

Thompson and Morgan sell a variety of Courgette which we have found
to
be resistent to Mildew. Not sure of the name off hand, but it is
advertised as such.
Onions adore sun. And do not omplain too much about Spring onions,
in
40 odd years of growing veg I have never even managed to get the
seeds
to germinate, never mind grow to any size. And before you all jump
in
and tell me how to do it, I have tried every single method ever
suggested without success.

Another cause of powdery mildew is lack of air flow. If your plants
are
protected from the wind, mold will be a problem. Too many plants
crowding each other will also prevent air flow. If plants are indoors
a
small fan will also help plants.

Indoor zukes?

There were problems this year with the north "Bay" grape harvest. A
cool, damp summer gave way to a cool fall. Fearing mold, and mildew,
vineyardists pruned back the vines foliage to allow better penetration

of sun and air. That's when we got a week of heat that sunburned many
of
the grapes, creating points of infection for the molds and mildews.
Then
as quick as you could say "Bob's your uncle", we started getting light

rains. The winery where I worked lost a third of its crop.

Agriculture isn't for the faint at heart.

Or the optimist

I was thinking perhaps greenhouses. They sometimes do not get good air
circulation. Also this is the first post were someone grew Courgettes in
pots that I know of. I also wonder what size of pots are used? They
would need at least a five gallon container.

Another thought, you stated ZUKES,

zukes (sp?) zuchs (?)--- zucchini (aubergine in French)
not cukes --- cucumber

I was thinking squash not cucumbers.
There are varieties of cucumbers called pickling cucumbers that will die
if the cucumbers get large and go to seed. So if I am wrong and the OP
was growing pickling cucumbers then that is the reason for the plants
early demise. Is there a variety of squash that acts like pickling
cucumbers?

I'd have to look it up.
Cucumbers also come under the heading of the family Cucurbitaceae
(cucurbits).
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Dan L wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
Dan L wrote:

Owdboggy wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;906617']asgilbert wrote:-
I grew courgettes in planters this year....decent crop, but the
plants
died early with the leaves turning sort of powdery grey. Can anyone
recommend a good reliable variety?-

Powdery mildew will strike all the cultivars that I have seen if
the
conditions suit the fungus, ie warm and wet.

David

Thompson and Morgan sell a variety of Courgette which we have found
to
be resistent to Mildew. Not sure of the name off hand, but it is
advertised as such.
Onions adore sun. And do not omplain too much about Spring onions,
in
40 odd years of growing veg I have never even managed to get the
seeds
to germinate, never mind grow to any size. And before you all jump
in
and tell me how to do it, I have tried every single method ever
suggested without success.

Another cause of powdery mildew is lack of air flow. If your plants
are
protected from the wind, mold will be a problem. Too many plants
crowding each other will also prevent air flow. If plants are indoors
a
small fan will also help plants.

Indoor zukes?

There were problems this year with the north "Bay" grape harvest. A
cool, damp summer gave way to a cool fall. Fearing mold, and mildew,
vineyardists pruned back the vines foliage to allow better penetration

of sun and air. That's when we got a week of heat that sunburned many
of
the grapes, creating points of infection for the molds and mildews.
Then
as quick as you could say "Bob's your uncle", we started getting light

rains. The winery where I worked lost a third of its crop.

Agriculture isn't for the faint at heart.

Or the optimist

I was thinking perhaps greenhouses. They sometimes do not get good air
circulation. Also this is the first post were someone grew Courgettes in
pots that I know of. I also wonder what size of pots are used? They
would need at least a five gallon container.

Another thought, you stated ZUKES,

zukes (sp?) zuchs (?)--- zucchini (aubergine in French)

aubergine=eggplant not zukes


not cukes --- cucumber

I was thinking squash not cucumbers.
There are varieties of cucumbers called pickling cucumbers that will die
if the cucumbers get large and go to seed. So if I am wrong and the OP
was growing pickling cucumbers then that is the reason for the plants
early demise. Is there a variety of squash that acts like pickling
cucumbers?

I'd have to look it up.
Cucumbers also come under the heading of the family Cucurbitaceae
(cucurbits).
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug

"Steve Peek" wrote:
"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Dan L wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
Dan L wrote:

Owdboggy wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;906617']asgilbert wrote:-
I grew courgettes in planters this year....decent crop, but the
plants
died early with the leaves turning sort of powdery grey. Can
anyone
recommend a good reliable variety?-

Powdery mildew will strike all the cultivars that I have seen if
the
conditions suit the fungus, ie warm and wet.

David

Thompson and Morgan sell a variety of Courgette which we have
found
to
be resistent to Mildew. Not sure of the name off hand, but it is
advertised as such.
Onions adore sun. And do not omplain too much about Spring
onions,
in
40 odd years of growing veg I have never even managed to get the
seeds
to germinate, never mind grow to any size. And before you all
jump
in
and tell me how to do it, I have tried every single method ever
suggested without success.

Another cause of powdery mildew is lack of air flow. If your
plants
are
protected from the wind, mold will be a problem. Too many plants
crowding each other will also prevent air flow. If plants are
indoors
a
small fan will also help plants.

Indoor zukes?

There were problems this year with the north "Bay" grape harvest. A
cool, damp summer gave way to a cool fall. Fearing mold, and
mildew,
vineyardists pruned back the vines foliage to allow better
penetration

of sun and air. That's when we got a week of heat that sunburned
many
of
the grapes, creating points of infection for the molds and mildews.
Then
as quick as you could say "Bob's your uncle", we started getting
light

rains. The winery where I worked lost a third of its crop.

Agriculture isn't for the faint at heart.

Or the optimist

I was thinking perhaps greenhouses. They sometimes do not get good
air
circulation. Also this is the first post were someone grew
Courgettes in
pots that I know of. I also wonder what size of pots are used? They
would need at least a five gallon container.

Another thought, you stated ZUKES,

zukes (sp?) zuchs (?)--- zucchini (aubergine in French)

aubergine=eggplant not zukes


not cukes --- cucumber

I was thinking squash not cucumbers.
There are varieties of cucumbers called pickling cucumbers that will
die
if the cucumbers get large and go to seed. So if I am wrong and the
OP
was growing pickling cucumbers then that is the reason for the
plants
early demise. Is there a variety of squash that acts like pickling
cucumbers?

I'd have to look it up.
Cucumbers also come under the heading of the family Cucurbitaceae
(cucurbits).
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHugs

Two nations separated by a common language.
Also, I need to learn to read or get more sleep.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

In article ,
"Steve Peek" wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Dan L wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
Dan L wrote:

Owdboggy wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;906617']asgilbert wrote:-
I grew courgettes in planters this year....decent crop, but the
plants
died early with the leaves turning sort of powdery grey. Can anyone
recommend a good reliable variety?-

Powdery mildew will strike all the cultivars that I have seen if
the
conditions suit the fungus, ie warm and wet.

David

Thompson and Morgan sell a variety of Courgette which we have found
to
be resistent to Mildew. Not sure of the name off hand, but it is
advertised as such.
Onions adore sun. And do not omplain too much about Spring onions,
in
40 odd years of growing veg I have never even managed to get the
seeds
to germinate, never mind grow to any size. And before you all jump
in
and tell me how to do it, I have tried every single method ever
suggested without success.

Another cause of powdery mildew is lack of air flow. If your plants
are
protected from the wind, mold will be a problem. Too many plants
crowding each other will also prevent air flow. If plants are indoors
a
small fan will also help plants.

Indoor zukes?

There were problems this year with the north "Bay" grape harvest. A
cool, damp summer gave way to a cool fall. Fearing mold, and mildew,
vineyardists pruned back the vines foliage to allow better penetration

of sun and air. That's when we got a week of heat that sunburned many
of
the grapes, creating points of infection for the molds and mildews.
Then
as quick as you could say "Bob's your uncle", we started getting light

rains. The winery where I worked lost a third of its crop.

Agriculture isn't for the faint at heart.

Or the optimist

I was thinking perhaps greenhouses. They sometimes do not get good air
circulation. Also this is the first post were someone grew Courgettes in
pots that I know of. I also wonder what size of pots are used? They
would need at least a five gallon container.

Another thought, you stated ZUKES,

zukes (sp?) zuchs (?)--- zucchini (aubergine in French)

aubergine=eggplant not zukes

Brain fart. Thought I fixed that. Aubergine is melanzane in Italian.
Courgette isn't that interesting, zucchini in Italian.


not cukes --- cucumber

I was thinking squash not cucumbers.
There are varieties of cucumbers called pickling cucumbers that will die
if the cucumbers get large and go to seed. So if I am wrong and the OP
was growing pickling cucumbers then that is the reason for the plants
early demise. Is there a variety of squash that acts like pickling
cucumbers?

I'd have to look it up.
Cucumbers also come under the heading of the family Cucurbitaceae
(cucurbits).
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug