Nad R wrote:
songbird wrote:

i think it likely we'll have some more
epidemics of some kind. population density
continues to increase as people move to
the cities.

Not in the US. More and More people are moving to the country. Carving up
the the land into smaller and small segments at a destructive pace. The
last census showed that most cities have fewer people. I am one of those
that fled the city for the safety of the country.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...htm?csp=34news

when times get really bad people
will be forced to band together again.

around here most of the townships
have lost population the past ten
years.


more people are raising
chickens and pigs in close proximity again.
these sorts of trends are asking for
trouble.

Does this mean I have to kick my chickens, dogs and bessy the cow out of my
bed room Or are you advocating vegetarianism? Or against farm factories
from that last sentence?

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/na...next_aids.html

i much prefer no kicking involved
when it comes to animals.

i'm just stating that it's more
likely we'll have an increase of
certain kinds of diseases as more
people get involved in raising
animals.

as it currently stands i'm not
a big fan of factory farming, but
the acreage involved in free range
chicken farming for huge flocks
would consume many acres of land
and there's a good chance it would
damage the environment on those
many acres too. in the end my
answer is to eat less meat all
around. as an omnivore there are
other sources i can be happy with
and they cost less than meat most
of the time.

looks like free range pig farming
is already happening in Michigan with
the wild pigs. so there at least is
an ethical source of pig, but so far
they've not shown their curly tails
here...


on top of the likelyhood of
food shortages, riots, wars, water
shortages, etc. it's going to be an
interesting period of time coming up.

Interesting only for those that can avoid the food and water shortages,
riots and wars. Shortages caused by humans breading like rats. Let us
support Family Planning and the Environmental Protection Agency

and the right to arm bears.


songbird

In article ,
songbird wrote:

Interesting only for those that can avoid the food and water shortages,
riots and wars. Shortages caused by humans breading like rats. Let us
support Family Planning and the Environmental Protection Agency

and the right to arm bears.
Makes more sense than Paul Ryan's plan to steal more from the poor to
give to the rich.



songbird




If you like weekends (8 hr./day & 40 hr./week), then thank a labor union.
They paid for it in blood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_affair


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- Billy
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.
- Dwight D. Eisenhower, 16 April 1953
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songbird wrote:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...htm?csp=34news

when times get really bad people
will be forced to band together again.

I do not believe in that for a minute. When times get bad, people start
aiming at each other for the scraps. At least in the US.

Michigan is the only state have a reduction in population. However, land
prices with out a home on it is still going up in price. If the land has a
home on it the price goes down. Land is still being used as an investment.

Does this mean I have to kick my chickens, dogs and bessy the cow out of my
bed room Or are you advocating vegetarianism? Or against farm factories
from that last sentence?

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/na...next_aids.html

i much prefer no kicking involved when it comes to animals.

Ok, I will only beat them after they have a quick end to help tenderize
them.


i'm just stating that it's more
likely we'll have an increase of
certain kinds of diseases as more
people get involved in raising
animals.

as it currently stands i'm not
a big fan of factory farming, but
the acreage involved in free range
chicken farming for huge flocks
would consume many acres of land
and there's a good chance it would
damage the environment on those
many acres too. in the end my
answer is to eat less meat all around.

Free ranging animals will cost more therefore will eat less of the
critters.
I would support a human animals right bill that would reduce the crowding.

and the right to arm bears.

I just hope the bears shoot straight

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Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)