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On 8/15/2018 5:36 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 5:38 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:30 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:14 PM, T wrote:
On 08/15/2018 04:33 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:49 AM, T wrote:
On 08/12/2018 01:41 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/12/2018 2:28 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/12/2018 7:50 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
¬*¬* Seems that in the last week or two something(s) have been
marauding my tomato patch . I thought I had it better
protected ... yesterday afternoon I set up my game cam in the
corner where they've been eating their ill-gotten gains , only
to discover there are 3 shifts ... late afternoon/early
evening , the squirrels dine , then after dark the raccoons
come in , followed later by the 'possums . Looks like I need
to improve the protection out there . I have to admit , the
west side is hard to get to because of the wild blackberries
and I've let the chicken wire and 'lectric wires get overgrown
a little . It's been working so well until recently that I've
become complacent , and that's gotta end . I'm not certain if
they're crawling under the chicken wire or going over ,
probably the latter since there are sags that weren't there
when I installed it . Either way , I'll be out there today
tightening things up in an effort to stop it - all the ripe or
nearly ripe 'maters are gone , and they've started in on the
green ones , I gotta do something or this will be the end of
tomato season for this year . And I've got a lot more jars to
fill .

Groundhogs are eating my neighbors tomatoes.¬* Time for the
Hav-a-hart trap.

¬*¬* 22-250 from 300 yards .


Do they explode when you hit them?

¬*¬* Depends on the load ... a 22-250 hollow point at 3800 fps MV ,
yes . A .243 HP at 3300 , maybe if you hit the body . Regular .22
LR , no .


A rabbit/hare won't go down with a 22 LR.

Sure they will but probably not right away unless hit in the head or
the spine.


¬*¬* Squirrels too . Unless you get a head or upper spine shot they
ain't hangin' around . I've seen them drag themselves off and claw
their way up a tree with their back legs totally dead . I have
declared war on the local squirrel population , they are apparently
the major destroyers of my tomato patch .I figger if I kill all the
ones that know there's a bounty there , the better chance the few
tomatoes left will have a chance . There are still a lot of blossoms
... and they too deserve a chance . TOMATO LIVES MATTER !


Friend in a nearby development uses subsonic .22LR on them. Another,
bothered by them, asked what to do and I suggested a pellet gun but
now he uses his shotgun as with 40 acres he can do anything.¬* He just
wanted to keep them out when he was not around.¬* Squirrel population
bounces back but if you get rid of the locals that are already hanging
around you probably remove most of the problem.¬* They look cute but
are nothing but tree rats.


¬* Funny you should mention shotguns ... I was considering using one ,
kinda like an instant gratification thing . I also (usually) use
subsonic .22 ammo , and they seldom expire on the spot .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety .
Get off my lawn !


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On 8/15/2018 7:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 5:36 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 5:38 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:30 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:14 PM, T wrote:
On 08/15/2018 04:33 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:49 AM, T wrote:
On 08/12/2018 01:41 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/12/2018 2:28 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/12/2018 7:50 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
¬*¬* Seems that in the last week or two something(s) have been
marauding my tomato patch . I thought I had it better
protected ... yesterday afternoon I set up my game cam in the
corner where they've been eating their ill-gotten gains , only
to discover there are 3 shifts ... late afternoon/early
evening , the squirrels dine , then after dark the raccoons
come in , followed later by the 'possums . Looks like I need
to improve the protection out there . I have to admit , the
west side is hard to get to because of the wild blackberries
and I've let the chicken wire and 'lectric wires get overgrown
a little . It's been working so well until recently that I've
become complacent , and that's gotta end . I'm not certain if
they're crawling under the chicken wire or going over ,
probably the latter since there are sags that weren't there
when I installed it . Either way , I'll be out there today
tightening things up in an effort to stop it - all the ripe or
nearly ripe 'maters are gone , and they've started in on the
green ones , I gotta do something or this will be the end of
tomato season for this year . And I've got a lot more jars to
fill .

Groundhogs are eating my neighbors tomatoes.¬* Time for the
Hav-a-hart trap.

¬*¬* 22-250 from 300 yards .


Do they explode when you hit them?

¬*¬* Depends on the load ... a 22-250 hollow point at 3800 fps MV ,
yes . A .243 HP at 3300 , maybe if you hit the body . Regular .22
LR , no .


A rabbit/hare won't go down with a 22 LR.

Sure they will but probably not right away unless hit in the head or
the spine.

¬*¬* Squirrels too . Unless you get a head or upper spine shot they
ain't hangin' around . I've seen them drag themselves off and claw
their way up a tree with their back legs totally dead . I have
declared war on the local squirrel population , they are apparently
the major destroyers of my tomato patch .I figger if I kill all the
ones that know there's a bounty there , the better chance the few
tomatoes left will have a chance . There are still a lot of blossoms
... and they too deserve a chance . TOMATO LIVES MATTER !


Friend in a nearby development uses subsonic .22LR on them. Another,
bothered by them, asked what to do and I suggested a pellet gun but
now he uses his shotgun as with 40 acres he can do anything.¬* He just
wanted to keep them out when he was not around.¬* Squirrel population
bounces back but if you get rid of the locals that are already hanging
around you probably remove most of the problem.¬* They look cute but
are nothing but tree rats.


¬* Funny you should mention shotguns ... I was considering using one ,
kinda like an instant gratification thing . I also (usually) use
subsonic .22 ammo , and they seldom expire on the spot .


I guess it depends on the noise level you can get away with. I can't
shoot in my yard most of the time and the critters are not around when I
might be able to shoot them. That's the beauty of a trap, it is always
there and waiting to trap them. Then you can dispatch them in the trap
as it can be a nuisance to transport a lot of them. I once had to take
a half dozen trips to release squirrels before I finally caught the
groundhog I was after.
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On 8/15/2018 7:24 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 7:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 5:36 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 5:38 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:30 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:14 PM, T wrote:
On 08/15/2018 04:33 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:49 AM, T wrote:
On 08/12/2018 01:41 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/12/2018 2:28 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/12/2018 7:50 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
¬*¬* Seems that in the last week or two something(s) have been
marauding my tomato patch . I thought I had it better
protected ... yesterday afternoon I set up my game cam in
the corner where they've been eating their ill-gotten gains
, only to discover there are 3 shifts ... late
afternoon/early evening , the squirrels dine , then after
dark the raccoons come in , followed later by the 'possums .
Looks like I need to improve the protection out there . I
have to admit , the west side is hard to get to because of
the wild blackberries and I've let the chicken wire and
'lectric wires get overgrown a little . It's been working so
well until recently that I've become complacent , and that's
gotta end . I'm not certain if they're crawling under the
chicken wire or going over , probably the latter since there
are sags that weren't there when I installed it . Either way
, I'll be out there today tightening things up in an effort
to stop it - all the ripe or nearly ripe 'maters are gone ,
and they've started in on the green ones , I gotta do
something or this will be the end of tomato season for this
year . And I've got a lot more jars to fill .

Groundhogs are eating my neighbors tomatoes. Time for the
Hav-a-hart trap.

¬*¬* 22-250 from 300 yards .


Do they explode when you hit them?

¬*¬* Depends on the load ... a 22-250 hollow point at 3800 fps MV
, yes . A .243 HP at 3300 , maybe if you hit the body . Regular
.22 LR , no .


A rabbit/hare won't go down with a 22 LR.

Sure they will but probably not right away unless hit in the head
or the spine.

¬*¬* Squirrels too . Unless you get a head or upper spine shot they
ain't hangin' around . I've seen them drag themselves off and claw
their way up a tree with their back legs totally dead . I have
declared war on the local squirrel population , they are apparently
the major destroyers of my tomato patch .I figger if I kill all the
ones that know there's a bounty there , the better chance the few
tomatoes left will have a chance . There are still a lot of
blossoms ... and they too deserve a chance . TOMATO LIVES MATTER !


Friend in a nearby development uses subsonic .22LR on them. Another,
bothered by them, asked what to do and I suggested a pellet gun but
now he uses his shotgun as with 40 acres he can do anything.¬* He
just wanted to keep them out when he was not around.¬* Squirrel
population bounces back but if you get rid of the locals that are
already hanging around you probably remove most of the problem.¬*
They look cute but are nothing but tree rats.


¬*¬* Funny you should mention shotguns ... I was considering using one
, kinda like an instant gratification thing . I also (usually) use
subsonic .22 ammo , and they seldom expire on the spot .


I guess it depends on the noise level you can get away with.¬* I can't
shoot in my yard most of the time and the critters are not around when
I might be able to shoot them.


¬* Frank , I live 12 miles from the nearest town in a clearing out in
the woods ... noise is not a problem . There are neighbors , but we can
only see one of them . In the winter , when the trees are bare .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety .
Get off my lawn !

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On 8/15/2018 9:19 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 7:24 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 7:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 5:36 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 5:38 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:30 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:14 PM, T wrote:
On 08/15/2018 04:33 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:49 AM, T wrote:
On 08/12/2018 01:41 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/12/2018 2:28 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/12/2018 7:50 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
¬*¬* Seems that in the last week or two something(s) have been
marauding my tomato patch . I thought I had it better
protected ... yesterday afternoon I set up my game cam in
the corner where they've been eating their ill-gotten gains
, only to discover there are 3 shifts ... late
afternoon/early evening , the squirrels dine , then after
dark the raccoons come in , followed later by the 'possums .
Looks like I need to improve the protection out there . I
have to admit , the west side is hard to get to because of
the wild blackberries and I've let the chicken wire and
'lectric wires get overgrown a little . It's been working so
well until recently that I've become complacent , and that's
gotta end . I'm not certain if they're crawling under the
chicken wire or going over , probably the latter since there
are sags that weren't there when I installed it . Either way
, I'll be out there today tightening things up in an effort
to stop it - all the ripe or nearly ripe 'maters are gone ,
and they've started in on the green ones , I gotta do
something or this will be the end of tomato season for this
year . And I've got a lot more jars to fill .

Groundhogs are eating my neighbors tomatoes. Time for the
Hav-a-hart trap.

¬*¬* 22-250 from 300 yards .


Do they explode when you hit them?

¬*¬* Depends on the load ... a 22-250 hollow point at 3800 fps MV
, yes . A .243 HP at 3300 , maybe if you hit the body . Regular
.22 LR , no .


A rabbit/hare won't go down with a 22 LR.

Sure they will but probably not right away unless hit in the head
or the spine.

¬*¬* Squirrels too . Unless you get a head or upper spine shot they
ain't hangin' around . I've seen them drag themselves off and claw
their way up a tree with their back legs totally dead . I have
declared war on the local squirrel population , they are apparently
the major destroyers of my tomato patch .I figger if I kill all the
ones that know there's a bounty there , the better chance the few
tomatoes left will have a chance . There are still a lot of
blossoms ... and they too deserve a chance . TOMATO LIVES MATTER !


Friend in a nearby development uses subsonic .22LR on them. Another,
bothered by them, asked what to do and I suggested a pellet gun but
now he uses his shotgun as with 40 acres he can do anything.¬* He
just wanted to keep them out when he was not around.¬* Squirrel
population bounces back but if you get rid of the locals that are
already hanging around you probably remove most of the problem. They
look cute but are nothing but tree rats.

¬*¬* Funny you should mention shotguns ... I was considering using one
, kinda like an instant gratification thing . I also (usually) use
subsonic .22 ammo , and they seldom expire on the spot .


I guess it depends on the noise level you can get away with.¬* I can't
shoot in my yard most of the time and the critters are not around when
I might be able to shoot them.


¬* Frank , I live 12 miles from the nearest town in a clearing out in
the woods ... noise is not a problem . There are neighbors , but we can
only see one of them . In the winter , when the trees are bare .


Trouble may come if someone hears a shot when not expected. I'm
thinking of incident in friends deer camp that had neighbors calling the
game warden in on us to check the camp. One of the hunters there had
fired a few tracer rounds after dark just to see what they looked like
and somebody living maybe a quarter mile away called the game warden.
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On 8/16/2018 6:34 AM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 9:19 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 7:24 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 7:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 5:36 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 5:38 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:30 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:14 PM, T wrote:
On 08/15/2018 04:33 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:49 AM, T wrote:
On 08/12/2018 01:41 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/12/2018 2:28 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/12/2018 7:50 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
¬*¬* Seems that in the last week or two something(s) have
been marauding my tomato patch . I thought I had it better
protected ... yesterday afternoon I set up my game cam in
the corner where they've been eating their ill-gotten
gains , only to discover there are 3 shifts ... late
afternoon/early evening , the squirrels dine , then after
dark the raccoons come in , followed later by the 'possums
. Looks like I need to improve the protection out there .
I have to admit , the west side is hard to get to because
of the wild blackberries and I've let the chicken wire and
'lectric wires get overgrown a little . It's been working
so well until recently that I've become complacent , and
that's gotta end . I'm not certain if they're crawling
under the chicken wire or going over , probably the latter
since there are sags that weren't there when I installed
it . Either way , I'll be out there today tightening
things up in an effort to stop it - all the ripe or nearly
ripe 'maters are gone , and they've started in on the
green ones , I gotta do something or this will be the end
of tomato season for this year . And I've got a lot more
jars to fill .

Groundhogs are eating my neighbors tomatoes. Time for the
Hav-a-hart trap.

¬*¬* 22-250 from 300 yards .


Do they explode when you hit them?

¬*¬* Depends on the load ... a 22-250 hollow point at 3800 fps
MV , yes . A .243 HP at 3300 , maybe if you hit the body .
Regular .22 LR , no .


A rabbit/hare won't go down with a 22 LR.

Sure they will but probably not right away unless hit in the
head or the spine.

¬*¬* Squirrels too . Unless you get a head or upper spine shot they
ain't hangin' around . I've seen them drag themselves off and
claw their way up a tree with their back legs totally dead . I
have declared war on the local squirrel population , they are
apparently the major destroyers of my tomato patch .I figger if I
kill all the ones that know there's a bounty there , the better
chance the few tomatoes left will have a chance . There are still
a lot of blossoms ... and they too deserve a chance . TOMATO
LIVES MATTER !


Friend in a nearby development uses subsonic .22LR on them.
Another, bothered by them, asked what to do and I suggested a
pellet gun but now he uses his shotgun as with 40 acres he can do
anything.¬* He just wanted to keep them out when he was not
around.¬* Squirrel population bounces back but if you get rid of
the locals that are already hanging around you probably remove
most of the problem. They look cute but are nothing but tree rats.

¬*¬* Funny you should mention shotguns ... I was considering using
one , kinda like an instant gratification thing . I also (usually)
use subsonic .22 ammo , and they seldom expire on the spot .


I guess it depends on the noise level you can get away with. I can't
shoot in my yard most of the time and the critters are not around
when I might be able to shoot them.


¬*¬* Frank , I live 12 miles from the nearest town in a clearing out in
the woods ... noise is not a problem . There are neighbors , but we
can only see one of them . In the winter , when the trees are bare .


Trouble may come if someone hears a shot when not expected.¬* I'm
thinking of incident in friends deer camp that had neighbors calling
the game warden in on us to check the camp.¬* One of the hunters there
had fired a few tracer rounds after dark just to see what they looked
like and somebody living maybe a quarter mile away called the game
warden.


¬* The neighbors are more likely to trigger off a few rounds than I am .
Unless I'm sighting in something it's very rare to shoot more than one
round ...

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety .
Get off my lawn !



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On 08/15/2018 02:38 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:30 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:14 PM, T wrote:
On 08/15/2018 04:33 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:49 AM, T wrote:
On 08/12/2018 01:41 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/12/2018 2:28 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/12/2018 7:50 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
¬*¬* Seems that in the last week or two something(s) have been
marauding my tomato patch . I thought I had it better protected
... yesterday afternoon I set up my game cam in the corner where
they've been eating their ill-gotten gains , only to discover
there are 3 shifts ... late afternoon/early evening , the
squirrels dine , then after dark the raccoons come in , followed
later by the 'possums . Looks like I need to improve the
protection out there . I have to admit , the west side is hard
to get to because of the wild blackberries and I've let the
chicken wire and 'lectric wires get overgrown a little . It's
been working so well until recently that I've become complacent
, and that's gotta end . I'm not certain if they're crawling
under the chicken wire or going over , probably the latter since
there are sags that weren't there when I installed it . Either
way , I'll be out there today tightening things up in an effort
to stop it - all the ripe or nearly ripe 'maters are gone , and
they've started in on the green ones , I gotta do something or
this will be the end of tomato season for this year . And I've
got a lot more jars to fill .

Groundhogs are eating my neighbors tomatoes.¬* Time for the
Hav-a-hart trap.

¬*¬* 22-250 from 300 yards .


Do they explode when you hit them?

¬*¬* Depends on the load ... a 22-250 hollow point at 3800 fps MV ,
yes . A .243 HP at 3300 , maybe if you hit the body . Regular .22 LR
, no .


A rabbit/hare won't go down with a 22 LR.

Sure they will but probably not right away unless hit in the head or
the spine.


¬* Squirrels too . Unless you get a head or upper spine shot they ain't
hangin' around . I've seen them drag themselves off and claw their way
up a tree with their back legs totally dead . I have declared war on the
local squirrel population , they are apparently the major destroyers of
my tomato patch .I figger if I kill all the ones that know there's a
bounty there , the better chance the few tomatoes left will have a
chance . There are still a lot of blossoms ... and they too deserve a
chance . TOMATO LIVES MATTER !


Death to squash bugs!
Death to earwigs!
Death to squirrels ???

Can you plow them under for fertilizer?


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On 08/16/2018 07:58 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/16/2018 6:34 AM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 9:19 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 7:24 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 7:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 5:36 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 5:38 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:30 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:14 PM, T wrote:
On 08/15/2018 04:33 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:49 AM, T wrote:
On 08/12/2018 01:41 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/12/2018 2:28 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/12/2018 7:50 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
¬*¬* Seems that in the last week or two something(s) have
been marauding my tomato patch . I thought I had it better
protected ... yesterday afternoon I set up my game cam in
the corner where they've been eating their ill-gotten
gains , only to discover there are 3 shifts ... late
afternoon/early evening , the squirrels dine , then after
dark the raccoons come in , followed later by the 'possums
. Looks like I need to improve the protection out there .
I have to admit , the west side is hard to get to because
of the wild blackberries and I've let the chicken wire and
'lectric wires get overgrown a little . It's been working
so well until recently that I've become complacent , and
that's gotta end . I'm not certain if they're crawling
under the chicken wire or going over , probably the latter
since there are sags that weren't there when I installed
it . Either way , I'll be out there today tightening
things up in an effort to stop it - all the ripe or nearly
ripe 'maters are gone , and they've started in on the
green ones , I gotta do something or this will be the end
of tomato season for this year . And I've got a lot more
jars to fill .

Groundhogs are eating my neighbors tomatoes. Time for the
Hav-a-hart trap.

¬*¬* 22-250 from 300 yards .


Do they explode when you hit them?

¬*¬* Depends on the load ... a 22-250 hollow point at 3800 fps
MV , yes . A .243 HP at 3300 , maybe if you hit the body .
Regular .22 LR , no .


A rabbit/hare won't go down with a 22 LR.

Sure they will but probably not right away unless hit in the
head or the spine.

¬*¬* Squirrels too . Unless you get a head or upper spine shot they
ain't hangin' around . I've seen them drag themselves off and
claw their way up a tree with their back legs totally dead . I
have declared war on the local squirrel population , they are
apparently the major destroyers of my tomato patch .I figger if I
kill all the ones that know there's a bounty there , the better
chance the few tomatoes left will have a chance . There are still
a lot of blossoms ... and they too deserve a chance . TOMATO
LIVES MATTER !


Friend in a nearby development uses subsonic .22LR on them.
Another, bothered by them, asked what to do and I suggested a
pellet gun but now he uses his shotgun as with 40 acres he can do
anything.¬* He just wanted to keep them out when he was not
around.¬* Squirrel population bounces back but if you get rid of
the locals that are already hanging around you probably remove
most of the problem. They look cute but are nothing but tree rats.

¬*¬* Funny you should mention shotguns ... I was considering using
one , kinda like an instant gratification thing . I also (usually)
use subsonic .22 ammo , and they seldom expire on the spot .


I guess it depends on the noise level you can get away with. I can't
shoot in my yard most of the time and the critters are not around
when I might be able to shoot them.

¬*¬* Frank , I live 12 miles from the nearest town in a clearing out in
the woods ... noise is not a problem . There are neighbors , but we
can only see one of them . In the winter , when the trees are bare .


Trouble may come if someone hears a shot when not expected.¬* I'm
thinking of incident in friends deer camp that had neighbors calling
the game warden in on us to check the camp.¬* One of the hunters there
had fired a few tracer rounds after dark just to see what they looked
like and somebody living maybe a quarter mile away called the game
warden.


¬* The neighbors are more likely to trigger off a few rounds than I am .
Unless I'm sighting in something it's very rare to shoot more than one
round ...


We hear the constant crackle of gun fire all the time. Virtually
no crime and everyone leave their car doors unlocked and
the houses unlocked.

At night we hear the coyotes. (They keep the neighborhood outdoor
cat population to a minimum. I don't crap on your lawn. Don't
send your animals to crap on mine.)

Hmmmm. If I get too much zucchini ...

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On 08/12/2018 04:50 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
¬* Seems that in the last week or two something(s) have been marauding
my tomato patch . I thought I had it better protected ... yesterday
afternoon I set up my game cam in the corner where they've been eating
their ill-gotten gains , only to discover there are 3 shifts ... late
afternoon/early evening , the squirrels dine , then after dark the
raccoons come in , followed later by the 'possums . Looks like I need to
improve the protection out there . I have to admit , the west side is
hard to get to because of the wild blackberries and I've let the chicken
wire and 'lectric wires get overgrown a little . It's been working so
well until recently that I've become complacent , and that's gotta end .
I'm not certain if they're crawling under the chicken wire or going over
, probably the latter since there are sags that weren't there when I
installed it . Either way , I'll be out there today tightening things up
in an effort to stop it - all the ripe or nearly ripe 'maters are gone ,
and they've started in on the green ones , I gotta do something or this
will be the end of tomato season for this year . And I've got a lot more
jars to fill .



Guys! Guys!

This is the proper way to deal with a squirrel!

Christmas Vacation Squirrel - National Lampoons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdiXSsFp29s

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On 8/16/2018 10:58 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/16/2018 6:34 AM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 9:19 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 7:24 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 7:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 5:36 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 5:38 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:30 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:14 PM, T wrote:
On 08/15/2018 04:33 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:49 AM, T wrote:
On 08/12/2018 01:41 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/12/2018 2:28 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/12/2018 7:50 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
¬*¬* Seems that in the last week or two something(s) have
been marauding my tomato patch . I thought I had it better
protected ... yesterday afternoon I set up my game cam in
the corner where they've been eating their ill-gotten
gains , only to discover there are 3 shifts ... late
afternoon/early evening , the squirrels dine , then after
dark the raccoons come in , followed later by the 'possums
. Looks like I need to improve the protection out there .
I have to admit , the west side is hard to get to because
of the wild blackberries and I've let the chicken wire and
'lectric wires get overgrown a little . It's been working
so well until recently that I've become complacent , and
that's gotta end . I'm not certain if they're crawling
under the chicken wire or going over , probably the latter
since there are sags that weren't there when I installed
it . Either way , I'll be out there today tightening
things up in an effort to stop it - all the ripe or nearly
ripe 'maters are gone , and they've started in on the
green ones , I gotta do something or this will be the end
of tomato season for this year . And I've got a lot more
jars to fill .

Groundhogs are eating my neighbors tomatoes. Time for the
Hav-a-hart trap.

¬*¬* 22-250 from 300 yards .


Do they explode when you hit them?

¬*¬* Depends on the load ... a 22-250 hollow point at 3800 fps
MV , yes . A .243 HP at 3300 , maybe if you hit the body .
Regular .22 LR , no .


A rabbit/hare won't go down with a 22 LR.

Sure they will but probably not right away unless hit in the
head or the spine.

¬*¬* Squirrels too . Unless you get a head or upper spine shot they
ain't hangin' around . I've seen them drag themselves off and
claw their way up a tree with their back legs totally dead . I
have declared war on the local squirrel population , they are
apparently the major destroyers of my tomato patch .I figger if I
kill all the ones that know there's a bounty there , the better
chance the few tomatoes left will have a chance . There are still
a lot of blossoms ... and they too deserve a chance . TOMATO
LIVES MATTER !


Friend in a nearby development uses subsonic .22LR on them.
Another, bothered by them, asked what to do and I suggested a
pellet gun but now he uses his shotgun as with 40 acres he can do
anything.¬* He just wanted to keep them out when he was not
around.¬* Squirrel population bounces back but if you get rid of
the locals that are already hanging around you probably remove
most of the problem. They look cute but are nothing but tree rats.

¬*¬* Funny you should mention shotguns ... I was considering using
one , kinda like an instant gratification thing . I also (usually)
use subsonic .22 ammo , and they seldom expire on the spot .


I guess it depends on the noise level you can get away with. I can't
shoot in my yard most of the time and the critters are not around
when I might be able to shoot them.

¬*¬* Frank , I live 12 miles from the nearest town in a clearing out in
the woods ... noise is not a problem . There are neighbors , but we
can only see one of them . In the winter , when the trees are bare .


Trouble may come if someone hears a shot when not expected.¬* I'm
thinking of incident in friends deer camp that had neighbors calling
the game warden in on us to check the camp.¬* One of the hunters there
had fired a few tracer rounds after dark just to see what they looked
like and somebody living maybe a quarter mile away called the game
warden.


¬* The neighbors are more likely to trigger off a few rounds than I am .
Unless I'm sighting in something it's very rare to shoot more than one
round ...


Then you don't have a problem.
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On 8/16/2018 11:49 AM, T wrote:
On 08/12/2018 04:50 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
¬*¬* Seems that in the last week or two something(s) have been marauding
my tomato patch . I thought I had it better protected ... yesterday
afternoon I set up my game cam in the corner where they've been eating
their ill-gotten gains , only to discover there are 3 shifts ... late
afternoon/early evening , the squirrels dine , then after dark the
raccoons come in , followed later by the 'possums . Looks like I need
to improve the protection out there . I have to admit , the west side
is hard to get to because of the wild blackberries and I've let the
chicken wire and 'lectric wires get overgrown a little . It's been
working so well until recently that I've become complacent , and
that's gotta end . I'm not certain if they're crawling under the
chicken wire or going over , probably the latter since there are sags
that weren't there when I installed it . Either way , I'll be out
there today tightening things up in an effort to stop it - all the
ripe or nearly ripe 'maters are gone , and they've started in on the
green ones , I gotta do something or this will be the end of tomato
season for this year . And I've got a lot more jars to fill .



Guys!¬* Guys!

This is the proper way to deal with a squirrel!

Christmas Vacation Squirrel - National Lampoons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdiXSsFp29s


Our son last used my Hav-a-hart to catch a squirrel in his house. I had
got in the space between the fireplace chimney and sleeve. He opened a
vent in his living room and put the trap there but it took a couple of
days. Another son had a squirrel die in the space and it cost him
nearly a thousand bucks to have a fireplace guy remove the squirrel that
another contractor to redo the outer wall that had to be cut into to get
the maggot laden squirrel out.


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On 08/16/2018 09:06 AM, Frank wrote:
On 8/16/2018 11:49 AM, T wrote:
On 08/12/2018 04:50 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
¬*¬* Seems that in the last week or two something(s) have been
marauding my tomato patch . I thought I had it better protected ...
yesterday afternoon I set up my game cam in the corner where they've
been eating their ill-gotten gains , only to discover there are 3
shifts ... late afternoon/early evening , the squirrels dine , then
after dark the raccoons come in , followed later by the 'possums .
Looks like I need to improve the protection out there . I have to
admit , the west side is hard to get to because of the wild
blackberries and I've let the chicken wire and 'lectric wires get
overgrown a little . It's been working so well until recently that
I've become complacent , and that's gotta end . I'm not certain if
they're crawling under the chicken wire or going over , probably the
latter since there are sags that weren't there when I installed it .
Either way , I'll be out there today tightening things up in an
effort to stop it - all the ripe or nearly ripe 'maters are gone ,
and they've started in on the green ones , I gotta do something or
this will be the end of tomato season for this year . And I've got a
lot more jars to fill .



Guys!¬* Guys!

This is the proper way to deal with a squirrel!

Christmas Vacation Squirrel - National Lampoons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdiXSsFp29s


Our son last used my Hav-a-hart to catch a squirrel in his house.¬* I had
got in the space between the fireplace chimney and sleeve.¬* He opened a
vent in his living room and put the trap there but it took a couple of
days.¬* Another son had a squirrel die in the space and it cost him
nearly a thousand bucks to have a fireplace guy remove the squirrel that
another contractor to redo the outer wall that had to be cut into to get
the maggot laden squirrel out.


Oh my!

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On 8/17/2018 12:54 PM, T wrote:
On 08/16/2018 09:06 AM, Frank wrote:
On 8/16/2018 11:49 AM, T wrote:
On 08/12/2018 04:50 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
¬*¬* Seems that in the last week or two something(s) have been
marauding my tomato patch . I thought I had it better protected ...
yesterday afternoon I set up my game cam in the corner where they've
been eating their ill-gotten gains , only to discover there are 3
shifts ... late afternoon/early evening , the squirrels dine , then
after dark the raccoons come in , followed later by the 'possums .
Looks like I need to improve the protection out there . I have to
admit , the west side is hard to get to because of the wild
blackberries and I've let the chicken wire and 'lectric wires get
overgrown a little . It's been working so well until recently that
I've become complacent , and that's gotta end . I'm not certain if
they're crawling under the chicken wire or going over , probably the
latter since there are sags that weren't there when I installed it .
Either way , I'll be out there today tightening things up in an
effort to stop it - all the ripe or nearly ripe 'maters are gone ,
and they've started in on the green ones , I gotta do something or
this will be the end of tomato season for this year . And I've got a
lot more jars to fill .



Guys!¬* Guys!

This is the proper way to deal with a squirrel!

Christmas Vacation Squirrel - National Lampoons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdiXSsFp29s


Our son last used my Hav-a-hart to catch a squirrel in his house.¬* I
had got in the space between the fireplace chimney and sleeve.¬* He
opened a vent in his living room and put the trap there but it took a
couple of days.¬* Another son had a squirrel die in the space and it
cost him nearly a thousand bucks to have a fireplace guy remove the
squirrel that another contractor to redo the outer wall that had to be
cut into to get the maggot laden squirrel out.


Oh my!


Now I'm reminded of another encounter with a critter. We had rented a
house with a washer and drier in the basement. The drier stopped
working and my wife called the repairman and it was going to take a few
days. It was hot in the summer and I looked at the drier and smelled
death. I told her to call the repairman to get him out right away. I
was at work when he came but what had happened was a rabbit had crawled
into the drier vent and died when my wife went to use it. Wife said
that the repairman removed the rabbit, went outside with it and threw
up. The basement was full of maggots and we had cats there and wife
called an exterminator to get rid of the maggots. The smell never left
the drier and we were moving shortly into a new house so we didn't
suffer financial consequence since the drier belonged to the homeowner.
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On 08/17/2018 11:05 AM, Frank wrote:
On 8/17/2018 12:54 PM, T wrote:
On 08/16/2018 09:06 AM, Frank wrote:
On 8/16/2018 11:49 AM, T wrote:
On 08/12/2018 04:50 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
¬*¬* Seems that in the last week or two something(s) have been
marauding my tomato patch . I thought I had it better protected ...
yesterday afternoon I set up my game cam in the corner where
they've been eating their ill-gotten gains , only to discover there
are 3 shifts ... late afternoon/early evening , the squirrels dine
, then after dark the raccoons come in , followed later by the
'possums . Looks like I need to improve the protection out there .
I have to admit , the west side is hard to get to because of the
wild blackberries and I've let the chicken wire and 'lectric wires
get overgrown a little . It's been working so well until recently
that I've become complacent , and that's gotta end . I'm not
certain if they're crawling under the chicken wire or going over ,
probably the latter since there are sags that weren't there when I
installed it . Either way , I'll be out there today tightening
things up in an effort to stop it - all the ripe or nearly ripe
'maters are gone , and they've started in on the green ones , I
gotta do something or this will be the end of tomato season for
this year . And I've got a lot more jars to fill .



Guys!¬* Guys!

This is the proper way to deal with a squirrel!

Christmas Vacation Squirrel - National Lampoons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdiXSsFp29s


Our son last used my Hav-a-hart to catch a squirrel in his house.¬* I
had got in the space between the fireplace chimney and sleeve.¬* He
opened a vent in his living room and put the trap there but it took a
couple of days.¬* Another son had a squirrel die in the space and it
cost him nearly a thousand bucks to have a fireplace guy remove the
squirrel that another contractor to redo the outer wall that had to
be cut into to get the maggot laden squirrel out.


Oh my!


Now I'm reminded of another encounter with a critter.¬* We had rented a
house with a washer and drier in the basement.¬* The drier stopped
working and my wife called the repairman and it was going to take a few
days.¬* It was hot in the summer and I looked at the drier and smelled
death.¬* I told her to call the repairman to get him out right away.¬* I
was at work when he came but what had happened was a rabbit had crawled
into the drier vent and died when my wife went to use it.¬* Wife said
that the repairman removed the rabbit, went outside with it and threw
up.¬* The basement was full of maggots and we had cats there and wife
called an exterminator to get rid of the maggots.¬* The smell never left
the drier and we were moving shortly into a new house so we didn't
suffer financial consequence since the drier belonged to the homeowner.


Yuk!

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On 8/16/2018 10:41 AM, T wrote:
On 08/15/2018 02:38 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:30 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:14 PM, T wrote:



A rabbit/hare won't go down with a 22 LR.

Sure they will but probably not right away unless hit in the head or
the spine.


¬*¬* Squirrels too . Unless you get a head or upper spine shot they
ain't hangin' around . I've seen them drag themselves off and claw
their way up a tree with their back legs totally dead . I have
declared war on the local squirrel population , they are apparently
the major destroyers of my tomato patch .I figger if I kill all the
ones that know there's a bounty there , the better chance the few
tomatoes left will have a chance . There are still a lot of blossoms
... and they too deserve a chance . TOMATO LIVES MATTER !


Death to squash bugs!
Death to earwigs!
Death to squirrels ???

Can you plow them under for fertilizer?


¬* I could , but I'd rather leave them out in the woods for the
carrion-eaters .

--
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Yes , I'm old
and crochety .
Get off my lawn !

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On 08/17/2018 07:43 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/16/2018 10:41 AM, T wrote:
On 08/15/2018 02:38 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:30 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/15/2018 12:14 PM, T wrote:



A rabbit/hare won't go down with a 22 LR.

Sure they will but probably not right away unless hit in the head or
the spine.

¬*¬* Squirrels too . Unless you get a head or upper spine shot they
ain't hangin' around . I've seen them drag themselves off and claw
their way up a tree with their back legs totally dead . I have
declared war on the local squirrel population , they are apparently
the major destroyers of my tomato patch .I figger if I kill all the
ones that know there's a bounty there , the better chance the few
tomatoes left will have a chance . There are still a lot of blossoms
... and they too deserve a chance . TOMATO LIVES MATTER !


Death to squash bugs!
Death to earwigs!
Death to squirrels ???

Can you plow them under for fertilizer?


¬* I could , but I'd rather leave them out in the woods for the
carrion-eaters .


And you don't risk the carrion eater digging them up either.

Coyotes are amazing at cleaning up dead animals.



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