In article , Kswck wrote:
What are the proper conditions for growing these 2?
Please note I am an apartment dweller and grow these in pots. Is heat a
factor? I have a south-facing apartment, gets sun most of the day.
I also have problems with curly leaf parsley, but the basil grows like a
weed.

I live in inland southern California and heat is not a problem on rosemary, it
is currently taking over my back yard and needs a heavy trim again. My guess
is either water or root bound is your problem.



--

Charles
Indifference = Consent

Rosemary loves sun and sandy, not too wet soil. It's very easy to overwater it
in pots. Dill needs a lot of light, and gets leggy when it doesn't get enough,
but it tolerates water much better. Says something about my indoor watering
habits that my inside rosemary has done well, but I've pretty much always
managed to kill every pot of dill I have ever been given...


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there is no difference between large and small problems,
for issues concerning the treatment of people are all the same.
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On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 21:44:51 GMT, Kswck wrote:

What are the proper conditions for growing these 2?
Please note I am an apartment dweller and grow these in pots. Is heat a
factor? I have a south-facing apartment, gets sun most of the day.
I also have problems with curly leaf parsley, but the basil grows like a

Your conditions sound a little like my own in the eastern mid-atlantic
US. My rosemary has died two straight years here...I even potted it
and brought it in, but the cold weather and damp soil is what I think
did it in...I thought damp soil would be fine since it was originally
found on the craggy rocks of the mediterranean. Now I know rosemary
requires lots of pampering up here in the cold weather; it will stay
indoors near the heater.

The dill is another slightly different matter. Both rosemary and dill
despise thick, clay-like soils. Dill has done extremely poorly for me
in all areas except one spot where I put pure sand mixed with
limestone and a VERY small amount of local clayish loam (heavy on the
loam side). The area was primarily designed as a lavender haven, but
the dill is doing extremely well. I've had dill germination rates of
about 90% whereas with normal local dirt its 30% or usually much less.
I believe the thin, sandy soil and the powdered lime helped a lot.
Who knows, maybe I should throw in a little lime to my potted
rosemary...

Dan

Kswck wrote:

What are the proper conditions for growing these 2?
Please note I am an apartment dweller and grow these in pots. Is heat a
factor? I have a south-facing apartment, gets sun most of the day.
I also have problems with curly leaf parsley, but the basil grows like a
weed.

Dill and parsley are both in the Apiaceae (Umbelliferae).
Most, if not all, of the plants in this family have taproots - including,
among others, dill, parsley, carrot, angelica, coriander, lovage, osha,
sweet cicely, ...
If you give them shallow soil they'll die.

Henriette

--
Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland
Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed

On 08 Aug 2003 02:33:26 GMT,
(EvelynMcH) wrote:

Rosemary loves sun and sandy, not too wet soil. It's very easy to overwater it
in pots.

I believe this. I killed several rosemary plants until I
learned that it likes somewhat dry conditions.

I think rosemary is originally from the Mediterranean area,
a fairly dry hot climate.

I have one now that's been thriving for about four years:
very healthy plant. It goes outdoors in summer, but comes
indoors in winter.

Pat

On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 07:36:34 GMT, (dstvns)
wrote:


Your conditions sound a little like my own in the eastern mid-atlantic
US. My rosemary has died two straight years here...I even potted it
and brought it in, but the cold weather and damp soil is what I think
did it in...I thought damp soil would be fine since it was originally
found on the craggy rocks of the mediterranean. Now I know rosemary
requires lots of pampering up here in the cold weather; it will stay
indoors near the heater.

But the Mediterranean climate isn't really wet, but
definitely on the dry side: look at pictures of the Greek
Islands - not much vegetation there.

Pat

Henriette Kress wrote:

Kswck wrote:

What are the proper conditions for growing these 2?
Please note I am an apartment dweller and grow these in pots. Is heat a
factor? I have a south-facing apartment, gets sun most of the day.
I also have problems with curly leaf parsley, but the basil grows like a
weed.

Funny, i couldn't get any of my basil to germinate yet I can't kill my
parsley. And half my parsley is in shallow pots (4" & 6" deep). The
4" deep pot was devoured to sticks by four swallowtail butterflys but
it has since grown back.

You don't really say what is wrong with your plants.

I've read that mediterranean(sp?) herbs prefer dryer conditions.
Aromatic herbs supposedly can become better flavored when allowed to
endure drier conditions (i.e. dry out between watering) A side note:
my friend's a beekeeper and the honey was the tastiest during a big
drought year--this may be a common aspect of nature.

With full sun I'd look at soil, water or fertilization. Compacted,
dense soils are worse for potted plants. You want the soil to be light
and loose when first potting. I don't like clay pots myself. My
smaller clay pots require watering twice a day on a hot day. Plastic
swings the other way--too easily retains moisture. Despite the worries
of root rot, molds, I prefer plastic. Containers also require
nutrients more than grounds since they tend to get washed out more
often. Natural cycles of decay and earthworms won't replace nutrients,
so you got to amend it yourself.


Dill and parsley are both in the Apiaceae (Umbelliferae).
Most, if not all, of the plants in this family have taproots - including,
among others, dill, parsley, carrot, angelica, coriander, lovage, osha,
sweet cicely, ...
If you give them shallow soil they'll die.


Henriette


DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
1st Year Gardener

Thank you all for your responses.

Kswck wrote:

What are the proper conditions for growing these 2?
Please note I am an apartment dweller and grow these in pots. Is heat a
factor? I have a south-facing apartment, gets sun most of the day.
I also have problems with curly leaf parsley, but the basil grows like a
weed.

DigitalVinyl wrote:

Henriette Kress wrote:


Kswck wrote:


What are the proper conditions for growing these 2?
Please note I am an apartment dweller and grow these in pots. Is heat a
factor? I have a south-facing apartment, gets sun most of the day.
I also have problems with curly leaf parsley, but the basil grows like a
weed.


Funny, i couldn't get any of my basil to germinate yet I can't kill my
parsley. And half my parsley is in shallow pots (4" & 6" deep). The
4" deep pot was devoured to sticks by four swallowtail butterflys but
it has since grown back.

You don't really say what is wrong with your plants.

I've read that mediterranean(sp?) herbs prefer dryer conditions.
Aromatic herbs supposedly can become better flavored when allowed to
endure drier conditions (i.e. dry out between watering) A side note:
my friend's a beekeeper and the honey was the tastiest during a big
drought year--this may be a common aspect of nature.

With full sun I'd look at soil, water or fertilization. Compacted,
dense soils are worse for potted plants. You want the soil to be light
and loose when first potting. I don't like clay pots myself. My
smaller clay pots require watering twice a day on a hot day. Plastic
swings the other way--too easily retains moisture. Despite the worries
of root rot, molds, I prefer plastic. Containers also require
nutrients more than grounds since they tend to get washed out more
often. Natural cycles of decay and earthworms won't replace nutrients,
so you got to amend it yourself.



Dill and parsley are both in the Apiaceae (Umbelliferae).
Most, if not all, of the plants in this family have taproots - including,
among others, dill, parsley, carrot, angelica, coriander, lovage, osha,
sweet cicely, ...
If you give them shallow soil they'll die.



Henriette



DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
1st Year Gardener


Both plants brown and die from the 'ground up'.