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Cloudy water after water change
I've been meaning to post here about the cloudiness that sets on my large
tank after I make water changes and fertilize the plants. The small tank doesn't get it, just the big one. Yesterday I changed about 30% of the water and fertilized with Fluorish, Fluorish Iron, Fluorish Excel, plus I added some Freshwater Trace. Like clockwork, the water started turning cloudy about an hour after the water change. This morning it's cloudy, but it should start clearing this afternoon. I also cleaned the filter (Eheim), rinsing all the media in it. One interesting aside is that everytime I make a water change, some of the usually shy clown loaches come out and hang out all over the tank. Anybody else get cloudiness after water changes? Victor M. Martinez http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv |
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Cloudy water after water change
How long has the tank been setup? Sounds like a bacteria bloom in a tank
that hasn't fully cycled yet. Ron "Victor M. Martinez" wrote in message ... I've been meaning to post here about the cloudiness that sets on my large tank after I make water changes and fertilize the plants. The small tank doesn't get it, just the big one. Yesterday I changed about 30% of the water and fertilized with Fluorish, Fluorish Iron, Fluorish Excel, plus I added some Freshwater Trace. Like clockwork, the water started turning cloudy about an hour after the water change. This morning it's cloudy, but it should start clearing this afternoon. I also cleaned the filter (Eheim), rinsing all the media in it. One interesting aside is that everytime I make a water change, some of the usually shy clown loaches come out and hang out all over the tank. Anybody else get cloudiness after water changes? Victor M. Martinez http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv |
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Cloudy water after water change
How long has the tank been setup? Sounds like a bacteria bloom in a tank
that hasn't fully cycled yet. Ron "Victor M. Martinez" wrote in message ... I've been meaning to post here about the cloudiness that sets on my large tank after I make water changes and fertilize the plants. The small tank doesn't get it, just the big one. Yesterday I changed about 30% of the water and fertilized with Fluorish, Fluorish Iron, Fluorish Excel, plus I added some Freshwater Trace. Like clockwork, the water started turning cloudy about an hour after the water change. This morning it's cloudy, but it should start clearing this afternoon. I also cleaned the filter (Eheim), rinsing all the media in it. One interesting aside is that everytime I make a water change, some of the usually shy clown loaches come out and hang out all over the tank. Anybody else get cloudiness after water changes? Victor M. Martinez http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv |
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Cloudy water after water change
Hi,
another potentially basic (meaning, stupid) question to ask, is that when you wash your media, you're using either an aged water, old tank water or de-chlor/de-chloramined water so you don't kill the bacteria colonies... I've had a similar problem when I place the newly cleaned Micron cartridge on my Magnum (water going slightly cloudy after filter change).. Found out that when I clean the Micron filter using their recommended regimen (use 4:1 water:bleach solution, rinse well, dry and reuse), I hadn't quite de-chlorinated the filter, which somehow seems to have temporarily disrupted my bacteria colony and caused slight cloudiness. now I soak and rinse the washed cartridge for days, then douse it in to super-dechlorinator-saturated water to make sure I get all the chlorine out before putting it back into the tank.. if anyone knows the most effective way to leech chlorine out of filter pleats, let me know! linda "Victor M. Martinez" wrote in message ... Ron Nelson wrote: How long has the tank been setup? Sounds like a bacteria bloom in a tank that hasn't fully cycled yet. Nope, the tank has been cycled for months. All water parameters are perfect. -- Victor M. Martinez http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv |
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Cloudy water after water change
"Victor M. Martinez" wrote in message ... I've been meaning to post here about the cloudiness that sets on my large tank after I make water changes and fertilize the plants. The small tank doesn't get it, just the big one. Yesterday I changed about 30% of the water and fertilized with Fluorish, Fluorish Iron, Fluorish Excel, plus I added some Freshwater Trace. Like clockwork, the water started turning cloudy about an hour after the water change. This morning it's cloudy, but it should start clearing this afternoon. I also cleaned the filter (Eheim), rinsing all the media in it. One interesting aside is that everytime I make a water change, some of the usually shy clown loaches come out and hang out all over the tank. Anybody else get cloudiness after water changes? Victor M. Martinez http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv Whats the substrate? Lighting? Change water info? conditioner? How about doing a water change tonight and not squirting in all that stuff and see what happens....... If it does not get cloudy.....as usual....squirt in all but the Excel and regular Flourish......and from there.....lets see what happens...... I remember one like this from a long while ago. Seems like it was some sort of chemical reaction.....but ...I do not remember well enough.... |
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Cloudy water after water change
Yep.... both my 50 and 55 do the same, never happens in the grandkids gallon
guppy tank. Clears over night with a Acurel F treatment. Bob "Victor M. Martinez" wrote in message ... I've been meaning to post here about the cloudiness that sets on my large tank after I make water changes and fertilize the plants. The small tank doesn't get it, just the big one. Yesterday I changed about 30% of the water and fertilized with Fluorish, Fluorish Iron, Fluorish Excel, plus I added some Freshwater Trace. Like clockwork, the water started turning cloudy about an hour after the water change. This morning it's cloudy, but it should start clearing this afternoon. I also cleaned the filter (Eheim), rinsing all the media in it. One interesting aside is that everytime I make a water change, some of the usually shy clown loaches come out and hang out all over the tank. Anybody else get cloudiness after water changes? Victor M. Martinez http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv |
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Cloudy water after water change
Your tank may be getting too much light. Is it in sun light? Do you leave
your hood lights on a lot? That can and does tend to make the water quite cloudy. "Victor M. Martinez" wrote in message ... I've been meaning to post here about the cloudiness that sets on my large tank after I make water changes and fertilize the plants. The small tank doesn't get it, just the big one. Yesterday I changed about 30% of the water and fertilized with Fluorish, Fluorish Iron, Fluorish Excel, plus I added some Freshwater Trace. Like clockwork, the water started turning cloudy about an hour after the water change. This morning it's cloudy, but it should start clearing this afternoon. I also cleaned the filter (Eheim), rinsing all the media in it. One interesting aside is that everytime I make a water change, some of the usually shy clown loaches come out and hang out all over the tank. Anybody else get cloudiness after water changes? Victor M. Martinez http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.500 / Virus Database: 298 - Release Date: 7/10/2003 |
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Cloudy water after water change
Hi Victor,
Happens to me every couple of weeks when I do a 30% water change and add fertilizer (doesn't matter whether I use flourish or florena). As you say it goes away after a day or so. I put it down to excess nutrients that the plants need to gear up to handle, as well as other stuff in the dechlorinated tap water that needs to settle/be filtered out. Tank size here is 60 gal. Regards, Graham. "Victor M. Martinez" wrote in message ... I've been meaning to post here about the cloudiness that sets on my large tank after I make water changes and fertilize the plants. The small tank doesn't get it, just the big one. Yesterday I changed about 30% of the water and fertilized with Fluorish, Fluorish Iron, Fluorish Excel, plus I added some Freshwater Trace. Like clockwork, the water started turning cloudy about an hour after the water change. This morning it's cloudy, but it should start clearing this afternoon. I also cleaned the filter (Eheim), rinsing all the media in it. One interesting aside is that everytime I make a water change, some of the usually shy clown loaches come out and hang out all over the tank. Anybody else get cloudiness after water changes? Victor M. Martinez http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv |
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Cloudy water after water change
Don't change the water and clean the filter at the same time; you are
re-starting the cycling process. Ideally only change half the filter media at a time, so that some bio-bugs remain. Have seen the same thing happen when I changed the water AND cleaned all the filter media; what happaned was power got turned off to the canister filter for over 24 hours, so all bugs probably dead, so had to kill off what's left, and changed some water to get rid of N build-up in the tank. Cheers, Poe "Victor M. Martinez" wrote in message ... I've been meaning to post here about the cloudiness that sets on my large tank after I make water changes and fertilize the plants. The small tank doesn't get it, just the big one. Yesterday I changed about 30% of the water and fertilized with Fluorish, Fluorish Iron, Fluorish Excel, plus I added some Freshwater Trace. Like clockwork, the water started turning cloudy about an hour after the water change. This morning it's cloudy, but it should start clearing this afternoon. I also cleaned the filter (Eheim), rinsing all the media in it. |
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Cloudy water after water change
"Racf" wrote in message
... I thought I remembered this.....and I tripped over a possibility. It really has to do with your dissolved C02 levels in your tank and how it behaves with CaCO3 (Calcium Carbonate). To make a long guess short.......If your dosing right after a water change...if your CO2 level drops CaCO3 will/could come out of solution and manifest itself as milky white pooh until it can dissolved back into solution....which can be a little while. Does your change water contain elevated amounts of dissolved CO2? Mine does here in MN.... That's a very interesting train of thought. My tank has quite high disolved CO2 (around 25ppm due to injection) whereas the tap water is very low (around 3ppm). I normally balance alkalinity between new/tank water, but the disolved CO2 will be quite different. Not enough to cause much of a hiccup with the pH due to the dilution and effect of the CO2 controller, but possibly enough to give rise to a chemical reaction causing the tank to cloud for a while. Thanks for the post. Experimentation to follow :-) Graham. |
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Cloudy water after water change
linda mar wrote:
another potentially basic (meaning, stupid) question to ask, is that when you wash your media, you're using either an aged water, old tank water or de-chlor/de-chloramined water so you don't kill the bacteria colonies... I guess I should've mentioned that I'm not an idiot. The biomedia was only rinsed using tank water. -- Victor M. Martinez http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv |
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Cloudy water after water change
Racf wrote:
Whats the substrate? Lighting? Change water info? conditioner? Gravel mixed with fluorite. (what's the substrate have to do with water changes?) 1 W/gallon compact fluorescent, 30% water change, tap water from a municipal source with chloramines and pH of around 9-10. Prime. -- Victor M. Martinez http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv |
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Cloudy water after water change
Racf wrote:
be a little while. Does your change water contain elevated amounts of dissolved CO2? Mine does here in MN.... Hmmm... it might, but I'm not sure. Or even some other chemical reactions could occur that could cause CaCO3 to come out of solution temporarily, but I am no Science wizard....... Actually... a change in pH would. That's probably it! Thanks! -- Victor M. Martinez http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv |
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Cloudy water after water change
Poe Lim wrote:
Don't change the water and clean the filter at the same time; you are re-starting the cycling process. Ideally only change half the filter media Says who? That's not true if you are using a canister filter with biomedia that is handled properly. I don't change *any* biomedia. Like I said before, the water parameters were/are perfect (no ammonia, no nitrite), which is a sure sign the biofilter is workign properly. -- Victor M. Martinez http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv |
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Cloudy water after water change
"Victor M. Martinez" wrote in message ... Poe Lim wrote: handle the full load. As I said, I have seen that when I did a large water change and disinfected the (dead) media. The bio-media isn't the only place What makes you think I disinfected anything? I don't wash my biomedia. Ever. change, the system is overloaded. Does anyone know if the ammonia released from the breakdown of chloramines, although converted to a non-harmful form for fish, is still availalble o the bugs and plants? All water conditioners, including Prime, that neutralize chloramines also take care of the clorine and the ammonia released. I have to say though the chemical reaction theory is also plausible as your water is very alkaline. My tank water is not alkaline, but the tap water is. How is this possible/being done? How do you feel about experimenting, and just changing one parameter at a time, and see what causes the problem? G I'll try that. If only I remembered to fertilize weekly instead of monthly. But my plants grow like weeds already, I don't want them to grow any more. -- Victor M. Martinez http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv |
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