You helped me before but I need your help again. I want to start from the
beginning by throwing away all my plants and I hope I won't get any algae in
the future. Thanks guys.

I might have some sunset hygro, not sure how much, but the next trimming,
I'll post a note...

"-=Almazick=-" wrote in message
news:ciqsb.131749$9E1.661560@attbi_s52...
You helped me before but I need your help again. I want to start from the
beginning by throwing away all my plants and I hope I won't get any algae
in
the future. Thanks guys.

-=Almazick=- wrote:

You helped me before but I need your help again. I want to start from the
beginning by throwing away all my plants and I hope I won't get any algae in
the future. Thanks guys.

Please think about this. If you get your lighting, CO2 and nutrients right, the
plants you have now will recover. the stem plants will send out new stems, the
others will develop new growth from their rhizomes, crowns or whatever. The
algae will disappear, with some help from you (clean the glass, remove what you
can, perhaps a blackout.)

If on the other hand you start a new tank from scratch without new plant culture
techniques, then you can reasonably expect the outcome to be the same as well.

This is hard to take. I know, my tank looked like crap for the second year. Then
I took Tom Barr's advice, went back to basic principles, and my tank looks great
again. Hint: If your flourescent lights are more than 12 months old, toss them
before you toss your plants!

Well the algae doesn't grow anymore but the old one keeps growing. I cut
all the plants but still just a small algae keeps growing and growing. I
almost don't have any algae anymore since I got CO2 but i'm getting tired.
I want the algae to be completely gone and the only way to kill the algae
just to throw away all the plants leave the tank with Algae Destroyer for a
week and put new plants without any algae in my tank.




"Dave Millman" wrote in message
...
-=Almazick=- wrote:

You helped me before but I need your help again. I want to start from
the
beginning by throwing away all my plants and I hope I won't get any
algae in
the future. Thanks guys.

Please think about this. If you get your lighting, CO2 and nutrients
right, the
plants you have now will recover. the stem plants will send out new stems,
the
others will develop new growth from their rhizomes, crowns or whatever.
The
algae will disappear, with some help from you (clean the glass, remove
what you
can, perhaps a blackout.)

If on the other hand you start a new tank from scratch without new plant
culture
techniques, then you can reasonably expect the outcome to be the same as
well.

This is hard to take. I know, my tank looked like crap for the second
year. Then
I took Tom Barr's advice, went back to basic principles, and my tank looks
great
again. Hint: If your flourescent lights are more than 12 months old, toss
them
before you toss your plants!

Hello Almazick

I would seriously consider taking Dave Millmans advice, it is very sound. I
too have been where you are and I did go the "REDO" route, but if I knew
then what I knew now I never would have redone the tank. You need to go and
research on how to balance the tank between plants nutrients and lights. I
cant stress this enough, once you get the hang of fertilisers it all becomes
so much easier. There will always be a little algae in all our tanks, you
can't get rid of it 100%. As the famous Mr. Tom Barr says "concentrate on
growing the plants not the algae"........

At worst you should do a tank blackout for 3-5 days. This will also give
your plants a head start on the algae.

Regards
Cam




"-=Almazick=-" wrote in message
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Well the algae doesn't grow anymore but the old one keeps growing. I cut
all the plants but still just a small algae keeps growing and growing. I
almost don't have any algae anymore since I got CO2 but i'm getting tired.
I want the algae to be completely gone and the only way to kill the algae
just to throw away all the plants leave the tank with Algae Destroyer for
a
week and put new plants without any algae in my tank.




"Dave Millman" wrote in message
...
-=Almazick=- wrote:

You helped me before but I need your help again. I want to start
from
the
beginning by throwing away all my plants and I hope I won't get any
algae in
the future. Thanks guys.

Please think about this. If you get your lighting, CO2 and nutrients
right, the
plants you have now will recover. the stem plants will send out new
stems,
the
others will develop new growth from their rhizomes, crowns or whatever.
The
algae will disappear, with some help from you (clean the glass, remove
what you
can, perhaps a blackout.)

If on the other hand you start a new tank from scratch without new plant
culture
techniques, then you can reasonably expect the outcome to be the same as
well.

This is hard to take. I know, my tank looked like crap for the second
year. Then
I took Tom Barr's advice, went back to basic principles, and my tank
looks
great
again. Hint: If your flourescent lights are more than 12 months old,
toss
them
before you toss your plants!

"Happy'Cam'per" wrote:

At worst you should do a tank blackout for 3-5 days. This will also give
your plants a head start on the algae.

Interesting that you should mention that trick, because I was just wondering
about it myself. I know that algae do very poorly without light, possibly
dying altogether after a while. But what about plants? I suppose they might
not suffer quite as much as the algae, but wouldn't a few days of total
darkness still be rather damaging to them? How long can plants live without
light and still be reasonably ok? I'd hate to try to get rid of my algae
that way only to find out that my plants are so weakened that they'll need a
few months to recover. They're doing badly enough as it is. Then again, for
all I know it might be a miracle solution, with little effect on the plants.

Francois

Tom Barr recommends no light, 3-4 days shouldn't hurt, didn't for me.

bob

"François Arsenault" wrote in message
. ..
"Happy'Cam'per" wrote:

At worst you should do a tank blackout for 3-5 days. This will also give
your plants a head start on the algae.

Interesting that you should mention that trick, because I was just
wondering
about it myself. I know that algae do very poorly without light, possibly
dying altogether after a while. But what about plants? I suppose they
might
not suffer quite as much as the algae, but wouldn't a few days of total
darkness still be rather damaging to them? How long can plants live
without
light and still be reasonably ok? I'd hate to try to get rid of my algae
that way only to find out that my plants are so weakened that they'll need
a
few months to recover. They're doing badly enough as it is. Then again,
for
all I know it might be a miracle solution, with little effect on the
plants.

Francois

"Robert Flory" wrote:

Tom Barr recommends no light, 3-4 days shouldn't hurt, didn't for me.

bob

Thanks, I'll give it a try.

Francois

About a 3 months ago I had to break down my 40 long so I could
renovate. All of my plants and fish were moved into a much smaller
tank (10g) for about a week and a half. This other tank had no light,
except for the ambient light in the room.

All of my plants came out okay, no damage at all.

hth

Joseph

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:16:51 -0800, "Robert Flory"
wrote:

Tom Barr recommends no light, 3-4 days shouldn't hurt, didn't for me.

bob

"François Arsenault" wrote in message
...
"Happy'Cam'per" wrote:

At worst you should do a tank blackout for 3-5 days. This will also give
your plants a head start on the algae.

Interesting that you should mention that trick, because I was just
wondering
about it myself. I know that algae do very poorly without light, possibly
dying altogether after a while. But what about plants? I suppose they
might
not suffer quite as much as the algae, but wouldn't a few days of total
darkness still be rather damaging to them? How long can plants live
without
light and still be reasonably ok? I'd hate to try to get rid of my algae
that way only to find out that my plants are so weakened that they'll need
a
few months to recover. They're doing badly enough as it is. Then again,
for
all I know it might be a miracle solution, with little effect on the
plants.

Francois