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Having grown Russian Tarragon only to discover that French Tarragon is the true tarragon for cooking, can anyone tell me the correct names for the herbs Sage, Rosemary and Basil, used for cooking purposes? Last year I noticed there were about 20 different basils, but which one is for cooking italian dishes, I just don't know. Same for poultry spice (sage) and rosemary for potatoe dishes. Can anyone help me out with the full names of these so I buy the right ones? With thanks, BL People are like stained-glass windows. They sparkle and shine when the sun is out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is a light from within. ~Elizabeth Kübler-Ross~ |
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BL I have an herb garden and I have many different varieties of herbs for
cooking. It depends on which ones you personally like but I'll suggest some of the traditional ones for you to find. English Thyme or Common Thyme (thymus vulgaris) are most popular but I also grow and love Lemon thyme( thymus citriodorus) just as you'd expect it to taste. French Tarragon is the best. (artimesia dracunculus) The Rosemary ( rosemary officinalis)I like the best is Tuscan Blue but if you're down south a bit you could really have a great time with Prostrate rosemary because it makes a gorgeous and fragrant groundcover that cascades over walls with little pale purple flowers. Sage is only good for eating in my opinion if it's Salvia officinalis. The tricolor ones and large leaf ones don't have as nice a flavor. But Pineapple sage is a good second type of sage to get because it has red flowers and an amazing fragrance. The spiciest Oregano is Greek Oregano ( O.vulgare subsp. hirtum) but the Italian (O.onites) is more like sweet marjoram. Then there's Basil (Ocimum basilicum) which is so great in every flavor. The classic one is Sweet Basil, or Mammoth sweet Basil. The pretty ones are Purple Ruffles and that works great when used fresh in salads and cold dishes. I also love the African Blue basil for the beautiful plants that attract honeybees to my garden. The Thai Basil is great if you like Asian food. it has a slightly licorice taste and it's also very pretty. Bay Laurel (Laurus nobilis) can grow over winter where it's warm but I take mine in every year in zone 6b. Chives (Allium schoenoprasum) are easy. Garlic Chives are delicious and can be a substitute for garlic in recipes if you're out of the real thing. Dill (Anethum graveolens)depends on what you want it for. If you want dill weed,plany Dukat. If you want seed heads for pickling, Long Island Mammoth is good. Fennel is really great if you like the anise flavor seeds or leaves. I grow bronze fennel because i love the color. There is abulb type fennel if you want to harvest and eat it Italian style, but it takes more space. Lemon Balm is great! (Melissa officinalis) I pick three or four leaves and pour boiling water over them in a mug for a cup of tea that tastes like lemon candy. If you grow Mint make sure to keep it away from anything else because it will take over the world! I burried 8 inch boards around the mint to contain it but it got around them and I'm still chasing it! I love chocolate mint and Spearmint the most but a huge number of mints is available. Savory is good for a ground cover and great in bean dishes and poultry. I planted winter savory and it's spreading neatly over the years. Hope this helps, Jane wrote in message ... Having grown Russian Tarragon only to discover that French Tarragon is the true tarragon for cooking, can anyone tell me the correct names for the herbs Sage, Rosemary and Basil, used for cooking purposes? Last year I noticed there were about 20 different basils, but which one is for cooking italian dishes, I just don't know. Same for poultry spice (sage) and rosemary for potatoe dishes. Can anyone help me out with the full names of these so I buy the right ones? With thanks, BL People are like stained-glass windows. They sparkle and shine when the sun is out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is a light from within. ~Elizabeth Kübler-Ross~ |
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 05:57:07 GMT, "Jane"
wrote: BL I have an herb garden and I have many different varieties of herbs for cooking. It depends on which ones you personally like but I'll suggest some of the traditional ones for you to find. snip Hope this helps, Jane What a great response. thank you! f Reply Address Purposly Altered to eliminate SPAM Reply by Post Only Please |
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wrote in message news:3e6e04c4.165468734@news-server... On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 05:57:07 GMT, "Jane" wrote: BL I have an herb garden and I have many different varieties of herbs for cooking. It depends on which ones you personally like but I'll suggest some of the traditional ones for you to find. snip Hope this helps, Jane What a great response. thank you! f Reply Address Purposly Altered to eliminate SPAM Reply by Post Only Please |
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THANKYOU so much for your reply. It is really informative and *just* what I needed. Thankyou again. Blue L. On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 05:57:07 GMT, "Jane" wrote: BL I have an herb garden and I have many different varieties of herbs for cooking. It depends on which ones you personally like but I'll suggest some of the traditional ones for you to find. English Thyme or Common Thyme (thymus vulgaris) are most popular but I also grow and love Lemon thyme( thymus citriodorus) just as you'd expect it to taste. French Tarragon is the best. (artimesia dracunculus) The Rosemary ( rosemary officinalis)I like the best is Tuscan Blue but if you're down south a bit you could really have a great time with Prostrate rosemary because it makes a gorgeous and fragrant groundcover that cascades over walls with little pale purple flowers. Sage is only good for eating in my opinion if it's Salvia officinalis. The tricolor ones and large leaf ones don't have as nice a flavor. But Pineapple sage is a good second type of sage to get because it has red flowers and an amazing fragrance. The spiciest Oregano is Greek Oregano ( O.vulgare subsp. hirtum) but the Italian (O.onites) is more like sweet marjoram. Then there's Basil (Ocimum basilicum) which is so great in every flavor. The classic one is Sweet Basil, or Mammoth sweet Basil. The pretty ones are Purple Ruffles and that works great when used fresh in salads and cold dishes. I also love the African Blue basil for the beautiful plants that attract honeybees to my garden. The Thai Basil is great if you like Asian food. it has a slightly licorice taste and it's also very pretty. Bay Laurel (Laurus nobilis) can grow over winter where it's warm but I take mine in every year in zone 6b. Chives (Allium schoenoprasum) are easy. Garlic Chives are delicious and can be a substitute for garlic in recipes if you're out of the real thing. Dill (Anethum graveolens)depends on what you want it for. If you want dill weed,plany Dukat. If you want seed heads for pickling, Long Island Mammoth is good. Fennel is really great if you like the anise flavor seeds or leaves. I grow bronze fennel because i love the color. There is abulb type fennel if you want to harvest and eat it Italian style, but it takes more space. Lemon Balm is great! (Melissa officinalis) I pick three or four leaves and pour boiling water over them in a mug for a cup of tea that tastes like lemon candy. If you grow Mint make sure to keep it away from anything else because it will take over the world! I burried 8 inch boards around the mint to contain it but it got around them and I'm still chasing it! I love chocolate mint and Spearmint the most but a huge number of mints is available. Savory is good for a ground cover and great in bean dishes and poultry. I planted winter savory and it's spreading neatly over the years. Hope this helps, Jane wrote in message .. . Having grown Russian Tarragon only to discover that French Tarragon is the true tarragon for cooking, can anyone tell me the correct names for the herbs Sage, Rosemary and Basil, used for cooking purposes? Last year I noticed there were about 20 different basils, but which one is for cooking italian dishes, I just don't know. Same for poultry spice (sage) and rosemary for potatoe dishes. Can anyone help me out with the full names of these so I buy the right ones? With thanks, BL People are like stained-glass windows. They sparkle and shine when the sun is out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is a light from within. ~Elizabeth Kübler-Ross~ People are like stained-glass windows. They sparkle and shine when the sun is out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is a light from within. ~Elizabeth Kübler-Ross~ |
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Glad to be able to help.
Jane wrote in message ... THANKYOU so much for your reply. It is really informative and *just* what I needed. Thankyou again. Blue L. On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 05:57:07 GMT, "Jane" wrote: BL I have an herb garden and I have many different varieties of herbs for cooking. It depends on which ones you personally like but I'll suggest some of the traditional ones for you to find. English Thyme or Common Thyme (thymus vulgaris) are most popular but I also grow and love Lemon thyme( thymus citriodorus) just as you'd expect it to taste. French Tarragon is the best. (artimesia dracunculus) The Rosemary ( rosemary officinalis)I like the best is Tuscan Blue but if you're down south a bit you could really have a great time with Prostrate rosemary because it makes a gorgeous and fragrant groundcover that cascades over walls with little pale purple flowers. Sage is only good for eating in my opinion if it's Salvia officinalis. The tricolor ones and large leaf ones don't have as nice a flavor. But Pineapple sage is a good second type of sage to get because it has red flowers and an amazing fragrance. The spiciest Oregano is Greek Oregano ( O.vulgare subsp. hirtum) but the Italian (O.onites) is more like sweet marjoram. Then there's Basil (Ocimum basilicum) which is so great in every flavor. The classic one is Sweet Basil, or Mammoth sweet Basil. The pretty ones are Purple Ruffles and that works great when used fresh in salads and cold dishes. I also love the African Blue basil for the beautiful plants that attract honeybees to my garden. The Thai Basil is great if you like Asian food. it has a slightly licorice taste and it's also very pretty. Bay Laurel (Laurus nobilis) can grow over winter where it's warm but I take mine in every year in zone 6b. Chives (Allium schoenoprasum) are easy. Garlic Chives are delicious and can be a substitute for garlic in recipes if you're out of the real thing. Dill (Anethum graveolens)depends on what you want it for. If you want dill weed,plany Dukat. If you want seed heads for pickling, Long Island Mammoth is good. Fennel is really great if you like the anise flavor seeds or leaves. I grow bronze fennel because i love the color. There is abulb type fennel if you want to harvest and eat it Italian style, but it takes more space. Lemon Balm is great! (Melissa officinalis) I pick three or four leaves and pour boiling water over them in a mug for a cup of tea that tastes like lemon candy. If you grow Mint make sure to keep it away from anything else because it will take over the world! I burried 8 inch boards around the mint to contain it but it got around them and I'm still chasing it! I love chocolate mint and Spearmint the most but a huge number of mints is available. Savory is good for a ground cover and great in bean dishes and poultry. I planted winter savory and it's spreading neatly over the years. Hope this helps, Jane wrote in message .. . Having grown Russian Tarragon only to discover that French Tarragon is the true tarragon for cooking, can anyone tell me the correct names for the herbs Sage, Rosemary and Basil, used for cooking purposes? Last year I noticed there were about 20 different basils, but which one is for cooking italian dishes, I just don't know. Same for poultry spice (sage) and rosemary for potatoe dishes. Can anyone help me out with the full names of these so I buy the right ones? With thanks, BL People are like stained-glass windows. They sparkle and shine when the sun is out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is a light from within. ~Elizabeth Kübler-Ross~ People are like stained-glass windows. They sparkle and shine when the sun is out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is a light from within. ~Elizabeth Kübler-Ross~ |
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Hi Jane - Yes, what a 'great response' all right! - Wow! - so much useful and
interesting information! - Many thanks from here too! - Wes/MO |
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Nice Summary Jane, on a side note I like Bergarten Sage, has a nice
flavor and is rather cold hardy. Also love the flavor of globe basils, just chop them up stems and all if it's fairly new growth. I second your opinion of Bronze Fennel, I have it growing like crazy as a foundation planting near the back door on the south side of the house. I leave the stems and seed heads up for winter interest. it self sows freely...VERY freely!G Swallowtails butterflies love it too. I second your vote on the Oregano, much prefer the Greek to the Italian, though I usually blend them after drying for storage and use in cooking. I have one Rosemary that I am not sure of the variety, bought it as Tuscan Blue but it has very narrow leaves almost needle like and much sharper taste, with almost pure white flowers. I also have a Tuscan Blue that I use for Lamb and such, I use the other one as smoke material for the grill. Lost my last two Bay trees to some sort of disease, heart turned dark and the bark split, so I have to replace them this year. Not a big fan of Tarragon so I don;t grow it but I do grow Lavender for use in Herbs De Provence, and also just because I like it. As for the rest of your list, have you been peeking in my back yard? G Dave Fouchey Sterling Heights, MI Zone 5 or so On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 05:57:07 GMT, "Jane" wrote: BL I have an herb garden and I have many different varieties of herbs for cooking. It depends on which ones you personally like but I'll suggest some of the traditional ones for you to find. English Thyme or Common Thyme (thymus vulgaris) are most popular but I also grow and love Lemon thyme( thymus citriodorus) just as you'd expect it to taste. French Tarragon is the best. (artimesia dracunculus) The Rosemary ( rosemary officinalis)I like the best is Tuscan Blue but if you're down south a bit you could really have a great time with Prostrate rosemary because it makes a gorgeous and fragrant groundcover that cascades over walls with little pale purple flowers. Sage is only good for eating in my opinion if it's Salvia officinalis. The tricolor ones and large leaf ones don't have as nice a flavor. But Pineapple sage is a good second type of sage to get because it has red flowers and an amazing fragrance. The spiciest Oregano is Greek Oregano ( O.vulgare subsp. hirtum) but the Italian (O.onites) is more like sweet marjoram. Then there's Basil (Ocimum basilicum) which is so great in every flavor. The classic one is Sweet Basil, or Mammoth sweet Basil. The pretty ones are Purple Ruffles and that works great when used fresh in salads and cold dishes. I also love the African Blue basil for the beautiful plants that attract honeybees to my garden. The Thai Basil is great if you like Asian food. it has a slightly licorice taste and it's also very pretty. Bay Laurel (Laurus nobilis) can grow over winter where it's warm but I take mine in every year in zone 6b. Chives (Allium schoenoprasum) are easy. Garlic Chives are delicious and can be a substitute for garlic in recipes if you're out of the real thing. Dill (Anethum graveolens)depends on what you want it for. If you want dill weed,plany Dukat. If you want seed heads for pickling, Long Island Mammoth is good. Fennel is really great if you like the anise flavor seeds or leaves. I grow bronze fennel because i love the color. There is abulb type fennel if you want to harvest and eat it Italian style, but it takes more space. Lemon Balm is great! (Melissa officinalis) I pick three or four leaves and pour boiling water over them in a mug for a cup of tea that tastes like lemon candy. If you grow Mint make sure to keep it away from anything else because it will take over the world! I burried 8 inch boards around the mint to contain it but it got around them and I'm still chasing it! I love chocolate mint and Spearmint the most but a huge number of mints is available. Savory is good for a ground cover and great in bean dishes and poultry. I planted winter savory and it's spreading neatly over the years. Hope this helps, Jane wrote in message .. . Having grown Russian Tarragon only to discover that French Tarragon is the true tarragon for cooking, can anyone tell me the correct names for the herbs Sage, Rosemary and Basil, used for cooking purposes? Last year I noticed there were about 20 different basils, but which one is for cooking italian dishes, I just don't know. Same for poultry spice (sage) and rosemary for potatoe dishes. Can anyone help me out with the full names of these so I buy the right ones? With thanks, BL People are like stained-glass windows. They sparkle and shine when the sun is out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is a light from within. ~Elizabeth Kübler-Ross~ |
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Hi Dave, Thanks! Sounds like we have alot in common. You like to cook too
huh? Would you like some seeds from my stash? I haven't been to Michigan to poke around your backyard but I do know how to get to the local post office. I think maybe they substituted one of your rosemaries for something like ARP. If you like Lavender maybe you'd enjoy some Hidcote? It's alittle shorter and deeper purple and very very fragrant. I make sleeping pillows and bath tea from it. I'd like to try Bergarten sage again. I'm in a different zone here than last time I had it and it just tasted like wood. Got seeds? I'm only half kidding here.... Jane "Dave Fouchey" wrote in message ... Nice Summary Jane, on a side note I like Bergarten Sage, has a nice flavor and is rather cold hardy. Also love the flavor of globe basils, just chop them up stems and all if it's fairly new growth. I second your opinion of Bronze Fennel, I have it growing like crazy as a foundation planting near the back door on the south side of the house. I leave the stems and seed heads up for winter interest. it self sows freely...VERY freely!G Swallowtails butterflies love it too. I second your vote on the Oregano, much prefer the Greek to the Italian, though I usually blend them after drying for storage and use in cooking. I have one Rosemary that I am not sure of the variety, bought it as Tuscan Blue but it has very narrow leaves almost needle like and much sharper taste, with almost pure white flowers. I also have a Tuscan Blue that I use for Lamb and such, I use the other one as smoke material for the grill. Lost my last two Bay trees to some sort of disease, heart turned dark and the bark split, so I have to replace them this year. Not a big fan of Tarragon so I don;t grow it but I do grow Lavender for use in Herbs De Provence, and also just because I like it. As for the rest of your list, have you been peeking in my back yard? G Dave Fouchey Sterling Heights, MI Zone 5 or so On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 05:57:07 GMT, "Jane" wrote: BL I have an herb garden and I have many different varieties of herbs for cooking. It depends on which ones you personally like but I'll suggest some of the traditional ones for you to find. English Thyme or Common Thyme (thymus vulgaris) are most popular but I also grow and love Lemon thyme( thymus citriodorus) just as you'd expect it to taste. French Tarragon is the best. (artimesia dracunculus) The Rosemary ( rosemary officinalis)I like the best is Tuscan Blue but if you're down south a bit you could really have a great time with Prostrate rosemary because it makes a gorgeous and fragrant groundcover that cascades over walls with little pale purple flowers. Sage is only good for eating in my opinion if it's Salvia officinalis. The tricolor ones and large leaf ones don't have as nice a flavor. But Pineapple sage is a good second type of sage to get because it has red flowers and an amazing fragrance. The spiciest Oregano is Greek Oregano ( O.vulgare subsp. hirtum) but the Italian (O.onites) is more like sweet marjoram. Then there's Basil (Ocimum basilicum) which is so great in every flavor. The classic one is Sweet Basil, or Mammoth sweet Basil. The pretty ones are Purple Ruffles and that works great when used fresh in salads and cold dishes. I also love the African Blue basil for the beautiful plants that attract honeybees to my garden. The Thai Basil is great if you like Asian food. it has a slightly licorice taste and it's also very pretty. Bay Laurel (Laurus nobilis) can grow over winter where it's warm but I take mine in every year in zone 6b. Chives (Allium schoenoprasum) are easy. Garlic Chives are delicious and can be a substitute for garlic in recipes if you're out of the real thing. Dill (Anethum graveolens)depends on what you want it for. If you want dill weed,plany Dukat. If you want seed heads for pickling, Long Island Mammoth is good. Fennel is really great if you like the anise flavor seeds or leaves. I grow bronze fennel because i love the color. There is abulb type fennel if you want to harvest and eat it Italian style, but it takes more space. Lemon Balm is great! (Melissa officinalis) I pick three or four leaves and pour boiling water over them in a mug for a cup of tea that tastes like lemon candy. If you grow Mint make sure to keep it away from anything else because it will take over the world! I burried 8 inch boards around the mint to contain it but it got around them and I'm still chasing it! I love chocolate mint and Spearmint the most but a huge number of mints is available. Savory is good for a ground cover and great in bean dishes and poultry. I planted winter savory and it's spreading neatly over the years. Hope this helps, Jane wrote in message .. . Having grown Russian Tarragon only to discover that French Tarragon is the true tarragon for cooking, can anyone tell me the correct names for the herbs Sage, Rosemary and Basil, used for cooking purposes? Last year I noticed there were about 20 different basils, but which one is for cooking italian dishes, I just don't know. Same for poultry spice (sage) and rosemary for potatoe dishes. Can anyone help me out with the full names of these so I buy the right ones? With thanks, BL People are like stained-glass windows. They sparkle and shine when the sun is out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is a light from within. ~Elizabeth Kübler-Ross~ |
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I think herbs are great for beginner gardeners, they are so very easy to grow. Colleen Connecticut |
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