I have encrustations on several small trees and bushes and wonder if
anyone might identify them and advise on how to get rid of them.
Pictures are on the following web site:

http://freespace.virgin.net/penny22.ogden/testB

Many thanks in anticipation,
Dennis

Those are lichens (pronounced "liken"). They do no harm to your trees and
shrubs whatsoever.

If something is killing your trees, it is something else.

If you still insist upon removing them, spray your plants with diluted
liquid chlorine bleach.


Dennis wrote in message
m...
I have encrustations on several small trees and bushes and wonder if
anyone might identify them and advise on how to get rid of them.
Pictures are on the following web site:

http://freespace.virgin.net/penny22.ogden/testB

Many thanks in anticipation,
Dennis

Aren't lichens & mushrooms opportunistic, i.e. don't they grow on diseased
and decaying wood?

"Cereoid+10+" wrote in message
.com...
Those are lichens (pronounced "liken"). They do no harm to your trees and
shrubs whatsoever.

If something is killing your trees, it is something else.

If you still insist upon removing them, spray your plants with diluted
liquid chlorine bleach.


Dennis wrote in message
m...
I have encrustations on several small trees and bushes and wonder if
anyone might identify them and advise on how to get rid of them.
Pictures are on the following web site:

http://freespace.virgin.net/penny22.ogden/testB

Many thanks in anticipation,
Dennis

In article ,
(Dennis) wrote:

I have encrustations on several small trees and bushes and wonder if
anyone might identify them and advise on how to get rid of them.
Pictures are on the following web site:

http://freespace.virgin.net/penny22.ogden/testB

Many thanks in anticipation,
Dennis

Lichens are harmless & attractive & even do trees & shrubs a good deed by
keeping them from being sun-scorched or dehydrated during difficult dry
spells. Your text with the pictukres suggests you think the rowan tree is
being killed by the "encrustation" but you'll have to look elsewhere than
to lichens for the cause. It also looks like it may have undergone an
unnecessarily extreme pruning.

The diseases to which rowans or ashes are susceptible tend to effect the
appearance of the leaves. As you mentioned no such feature, I suspect
they're not ill, but old. You could have the soil tested to see if there
is some deficiency developed over time. Rowans usually tolerate even
ruined soils, but can occasionally prove to be alkaline sensitive if grown
in lawned areas that get so many recurring lime treatments that some
trees finally just decide life's not worth continuing. Rowans aren't as
apt as some trees to have this sensitivity, but everything has its limits,
& something close to neutral pH serves rowans best.

The main thing, though, is that rowans do not have particularly long
lives. It's hard to judge the size of that trunk without something by it
for perspective, but it looks like quite a large old tree as rowans go, so
you may just be seeing it going through a natural decline. You can assist
it by keeping grass away from the roots as far as the dripline (grasses
secrete growth suppressing hormones so as to out-compete other plants; you
could plant shade-tolerant lily grass, cyclamens, shade plants around it
safely, but always starting with small things so you don't have to dig big
holes & perhaps damage the rowan's roots). Also make sure it has a bit of
water during dry spells, & give it slow-release mild fertilizing each
autumn. And keep lawnlawn fertilizer away from the dripline. These
measures could help delay the inevitability of removing trees that are
approaching the end of their lifespans.

-paghat the ratgirl

--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/

In article , "Betsy" -0 wrote:

Aren't lichens & mushrooms opportunistic, i.e. don't they grow on diseased
and decaying wood?

Lichens are epiphitic multi-organisms. The fungal component obtains its
nutrients largely from filtering rainfall & from atmospheric impurities &
from bugshit, not from decaying wood. The algal component performs
photosynthesis & obtains nutrients from light, plus it too benefits from
bugshit. They are completley harmless to their hosts & can even be
benificial.

-paghat the ratgil

"Cereoid+10+" wrote in message
.com...
Those are lichens (pronounced "liken"). They do no harm to your trees and
shrubs whatsoever.

If something is killing your trees, it is something else.

If you still insist upon removing them, spray your plants with diluted
liquid chlorine bleach.


Dennis wrote in message
m...
I have encrustations on several small trees and bushes and wonder if
anyone might identify them and advise on how to get rid of them.
Pictures are on the following web site:

http://freespace.virgin.net/penny22.ogden/testB

Many thanks in anticipation,
Dennis



--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/

Thanks for answering the question for me. I've been busy in the real world
today.

It is really a shame how badly misinformed most people are about the natural
world.

Betsy should do a google search to find out more about lichens and how
amazing they really are.

One of the major fallacies about lichens is that they are slow growing. They
can grow very rapidly under the right conditions.


paghat wrote in message
news
In article , "Betsy" -0
wrote:

Aren't lichens & mushrooms opportunistic, i.e. don't they grow on
diseased
and decaying wood?

Lichens are epiphitic multi-organisms. The fungal component obtains its
nutrients largely from filtering rainfall & from atmospheric impurities &
from bugshit, not from decaying wood. The algal component performs
photosynthesis & obtains nutrients from light, plus it too benefits from
bugshit. They are completley harmless to their hosts & can even be
benificial.

-paghat the ratgil

"Cereoid+10+" wrote in message
.com...
Those are lichens (pronounced "liken"). They do no harm to your trees
and
shrubs whatsoever.

If something is killing your trees, it is something else.

If you still insist upon removing them, spray your plants with diluted
liquid chlorine bleach.


Dennis wrote in message
m...
I have encrustations on several small trees and bushes and wonder if
anyone might identify them and advise on how to get rid of them.
Pictures are on the following web site:

http://freespace.virgin.net/penny22.ogden/testB

Many thanks in anticipation,
Dennis



--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/

So you confess that you are the one killing your trees!!!

You have motive, opportunity and now a written confession.

Ossifer, arrest that man!!!!


Dennis wrote in message
om...
(paghat) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Dennis) wrote:

I have encrustations on several small trees and bushes and wonder if
anyone might identify them and advise on how to get rid of them.
Pictures are on the following web site:

http://freespace.virgin.net/penny22.ogden/testB

Many thanks in anticipation,
Dennis

Lichens are harmless & attractive & even do trees & shrubs a good deed
by
keeping them from being sun-scorched or dehydrated during difficult dry
spells. Your text with the pictukres suggests you think the rowan tree
is
being killed by the "encrustation" but you'll have to look elsewhere
than
to lichens for the cause. It also looks like it may have undergone an
unnecessarily extreme pruning.

The diseases to which rowans or ashes are susceptible tend to effect the
appearance of the leaves. As you mentioned no such feature, I suspect
they're not ill, but old. You could have the soil tested to see if there
is some deficiency developed over time. Rowans usually tolerate even
ruined soils, but can occasionally prove to be alkaline sensitive if
grown
in lawned areas that get so many recurring lime treatments that some
trees finally just decide life's not worth continuing. Rowans aren't as
apt as some trees to have this sensitivity, but everything has its
limits,
& something close to neutral pH serves rowans best.

The main thing, though, is that rowans do not have particularly long
lives. It's hard to judge the size of that trunk without something by it
for perspective, but it looks like quite a large old tree as rowans go,
so
you may just be seeing it going through a natural decline. You can
assist
it by keeping grass away from the roots as far as the dripline (grasses
secrete growth suppressing hormones so as to out-compete other plants;
you
could plant shade-tolerant lily grass, cyclamens, shade plants around it
safely, but always starting with small things so you don't have to dig
big
holes & perhaps damage the rowan's roots). Also make sure it has a bit
of
water during dry spells, & give it slow-release mild fertilizing each
autumn. And keep lawnlawn fertilizer away from the dripline. These
measures could help delay the inevitability of removing trees that are
approaching the end of their lifespans.

-paghat the ratgirl

Many thanks to all who have posted advice and information. The Rowan
is about 35 years old and a neighbour suggested some time ago that it
was dying of old age. I might remove the lichen from the shrubs for
cosmetic reasons. I fear I have broken most of the rules in having
grass right up to the tree trunk, and applying lawn fertiliser with
careless abandon - sorry.
Best wishes
Dennis and Penny Ogden

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Cereoid+10+ wrote:

It is really a shame how badly misinformed most people are about the natural
world.

But that is why we are here asking questions ... to learn. Give us a
chance and perhaps some day we'll all be as smart and knowledgable as
you.

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I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for that day.

I bet you tell people you're an excellent driver too!!


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In article ,
Cereoid+10+ wrote:

It is really a shame how badly misinformed most people are about the
natural
world.

But that is why we are here asking questions ... to learn. Give us a
chance and perhaps some day we'll all be as smart and knowledgable as
you.

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I've been on this NG for maybe a month now and this is the second time you
have insulted someone to my knowledge. Do you realize that? Not everyone can
be Mr./Ms. Green Thumb.

The old adage about keeping your mouth shut if you have nothing constructive
(with exception to constructive criticism, but I have a feeling you don't
know how to do this) to say holds very true.

If you speak this way to your plants, its a wonder you are able to grow
anything. Plants are sensitive things.

Darby - Who freely admits she had a great deal to learn about everyone and
isn't afraid to ask for help.

Cereoid+10+ wrote:

I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for that day.

I bet you tell people you're an excellent driver too!!

Chip G. wrote in message
...
In article ,
Cereoid+10+ wrote:

It is really a shame how badly misinformed most people are about the
natural
world.

But that is why we are here asking questions ... to learn. Give us a
chance and perhaps some day we'll all be as smart and knowledgable as
you.

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wrote:

I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for that day.

Suit yourself. Holding or not holding is fine for me.

I bet you tell people you're an excellent driver too!!

Not recently. I do think that I will start telling folks that you're a
real "****er". You have a real scathing approach to things. But that's
OK, I have relatively thick skin.

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ROTFLMAO!

It turned out that the person's trees had lichens on them and nothing was
killing them.

They just jumped to conclusions, just like you are doing.

You have yet to demonstrate having any knowledge.

So it would appear that YOU should KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT and stop making a
total fool of yourself.

Contrary to what you believe, plants are not sensitive things. They must be
tough to survive in their environment. Unlike animals, they cannot just get
up and walk away when things get harsh.

Also, talking to plants does absolutely nothing beneficial to them.


Darby Wiggins wrote in message
...
I've been on this NG for maybe a month now and this is the second time you
have insulted someone to my knowledge. Do you realize that? Not everyone
can
be Mr./Ms. Green Thumb.

The old adage about keeping your mouth shut if you have nothing
constructive
(with exception to constructive criticism, but I have a feeling you don't
know how to do this) to say holds very true.

If you speak this way to your plants, its a wonder you are able to grow
anything. Plants are sensitive things.

Darby - Who freely admits she had a great deal to learn about everyone and
isn't afraid to ask for help.

Cereoid+10+ wrote:

I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for that day.

I bet you tell people you're an excellent driver too!!

Chip G. wrote in message
...
In article ,
Cereoid+10+ wrote:

It is really a shame how badly misinformed most people are about the
natural
world.

But that is why we are here asking questions ... to learn. Give us a
chance and perhaps some day we'll all be as smart and knowledgable as
you.

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In article ,
Cereoid+10+ wrote:

So it would appear that YOU should KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT and stop making a
total fool of yourself.

Welcome to my kill file ...

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Your loss, Prissy Fusspot!!!


Chip G. wrote in message
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In article ,
Cereoid+10+ wrote:

So it would appear that YOU should KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT and stop making
a
total fool of yourself.

Welcome to my kill file ...

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Cereoid+10+ wrote:

ROTFLMAO!

It turned out that the person's trees had lichens on them and nothing was
killing them.

They just jumped to conclusions, just like you are doing.

No, they had a question about something they thought was happening and asked
about it. Turns out, they don't have anything to worry about. Great. But they
didn't remain ignorant and silent.



You have yet to demonstrate having any knowledge.

Well, I don't have any knowledge to speak of regarding gardening, hence my
question. But I have a great deal of knowledge about many other things.



So it would appear that YOU should KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT and stop making a
total fool of yourself.

Actually, I'm not the one making a fool of myself. You are. You just don't know
it and I simply can't decide it that is the funniest part or the saddest part.



Contrary to what you believe, plants are not sensitive things. They must be
tough to survive in their environment. Unlike animals, they cannot just get
up and walk away when things get harsh.

And....



Also, talking to plants does absolutely nothing beneficial to them.

Obviously, you have no clue about old wives tales and the such. If you did,
you'd know it was a joke. But then again, I can not imagine that someone who
spews such ugly, mean and spiteful things from their mouth can't be doing any
damage to living things....

Welcome to my Kill file!



Darby Wiggins wrote in message
...
I've been on this NG for maybe a month now and this is the second time you
have insulted someone to my knowledge. Do you realize that? Not everyone
can
be Mr./Ms. Green Thumb.

The old adage about keeping your mouth shut if you have nothing
constructive
(with exception to constructive criticism, but I have a feeling you don't
know how to do this) to say holds very true.

If you speak this way to your plants, its a wonder you are able to grow
anything. Plants are sensitive things.

Darby - Who freely admits she had a great deal to learn about everyone and
isn't afraid to ask for help.

Cereoid+10+ wrote:

I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for that day.

I bet you tell people you're an excellent driver too!!

Chip G. wrote in message
...
In article ,
Cereoid+10+ wrote:

It is really a shame how badly misinformed most people are about the
natural
world.

But that is why we are here asking questions ... to learn. Give us a
chance and perhaps some day we'll all be as smart and knowledgable as
you.

--
--Chip
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