I read on the Internet that Milorganite organic turf fertilizer has a
distinct odor that seems to deter deer. Has anyone tried it with any
success? Is it only for lawns or can it be used in the garden too?
I'll probably buy a bag to try it out. The deer have been visiting more
and more, and like to chomp on my wife's favorite garden plants.

"tenplay" wrote in message
. ..
Val wrote:
Milorganite is dried sewage sludge, plain and simple. It's loaded with
heavy
metals and some not so good for you bacteria; I wouldn't have that
"crap"
anywhere on my property, let alone in my veggie garden. Google
"Milorganite+heavy metals" and then make up your own mind. Organic
doesn't
necessarily mean good for you.........nightshade is organic, all
mushrooms
are organic, potato and rhubarb leaves are organic, the pods on a golden
chain tree are organic........make a salad and chow down, after all,
it's
ALL organic!!

"tenplay" wrote in message
...
I read on the Internet that Milorganite organic turf fertilizer has a
distinct odor that seems to deter deer. Has anyone tried it with any
success? Is it only for lawns or can it be used in the garden too?
I'll
probably buy a bag to try it out. The deer have been visiting more and
more, and like to chomp on my wife's favorite garden plants.

Thanks for the heads up. Didn't know that it is such a sinister
product. You can't trust anything to be what it promises to be anymore.

I did as suggested a googled Milorganite last night and found the results
interesting. Some sources state it is safe and rigorously tested to ensure
heavy metals are present only in safely mandated concentrations. Other
sources saying that the safety standards are a result of political lobbying
and somewhat arbitary. I guess it boils down to whether people have a trust
in corporate and beaurecratic US. By the way, we don't get it here in NZ so
my interest is only academic.

rob

Milorganite is dried sewage sludge, plain and simple. It's loaded with heavy
metals and some not so good for you bacteria; I wouldn't have that "crap"
anywhere on my property, let alone in my veggie garden. Google
"Milorganite+heavy metals" and then make up your own mind. Organic doesn't
necessarily mean good for you.........nightshade is organic, all mushrooms
are organic, potato and rhubarb leaves are organic, the pods on a golden
chain tree are organic........make a salad and chow down, after all, it's
ALL organic!!

"tenplay" wrote in message
...
I read on the Internet that Milorganite organic turf fertilizer has a
distinct odor that seems to deter deer. Has anyone tried it with any
success? Is it only for lawns or can it be used in the garden too? I'll
probably buy a bag to try it out. The deer have been visiting more and
more, and like to chomp on my wife's favorite garden plants.

no, it wont work. They make it here, we all use it (on lawns, NOT in the veggie
gardens!!) and it doesnt do squat.

you need a barrier!

Ingrid

tenplay wrote:

I read on the Internet that Milorganite organic turf fertilizer has a
distinct odor that seems to deter deer. Has anyone tried it with any
success? Is it only for lawns or can it be used in the garden too?
I'll probably buy a bag to try it out. The deer have been visiting more
and more, and like to chomp on my wife's favorite garden plants.



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On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:57:04 -0700, tenplay wrote:

I read on the Internet that Milorganite organic turf fertilizer has a
distinct odor that seems to deter deer. Has anyone tried it with any
success? Is it only for lawns or can it be used in the garden too?
I'll probably buy a bag to try it out. The deer have been visiting more
and more, and like to chomp on my wife's favorite garden plants.


It works for a couple weeks, but Milorganite should be used as a
fertilizer. There are better products specifically made for deterring
deer ("Deer Away," "Deer Off," etc.) I can't recall, but there is
one product that supposedly lasts for months. There's also a
home-brew you can make to spray onto your plants, made from raw eggs.

Few repellants work if the deer are allready habituated to feeding on
your grounds.
When the choice is eating where it stinks or starving the choice is
obvious.
tenplay wrote:
I read on the Internet that Milorganite organic turf fertilizer has a
distinct odor that seems to deter deer. Has anyone tried it with any
success? Is it only for lawns or can it be used in the garden too?
I'll probably buy a bag to try it out. The deer have been visiting more
and more, and like to chomp on my wife's favorite garden plants.

Val wrote:
Milorganite is dried sewage sludge, plain and simple. It's loaded with heavy
metals and some not so good for you bacteria; I wouldn't have that "crap"
anywhere on my property, let alone in my veggie garden. Google
"Milorganite+heavy metals" and then make up your own mind. Organic doesn't
necessarily mean good for you.........nightshade is organic, all mushrooms
are organic, potato and rhubarb leaves are organic, the pods on a golden
chain tree are organic........make a salad and chow down, after all, it's
ALL organic!!

"tenplay" wrote in message
...
I read on the Internet that Milorganite organic turf fertilizer has a
distinct odor that seems to deter deer. Has anyone tried it with any
success? Is it only for lawns or can it be used in the garden too? I'll
probably buy a bag to try it out. The deer have been visiting more and
more, and like to chomp on my wife's favorite garden plants.



Thanks for the heads up. Didn't know that it is such a sinister
product. You can't trust anything to be what it promises to be anymore.

tenplay wrote:

Val wrote:
Milorganite is dried sewage sludge, plain and simple. It's loaded with heavy
metals and some not so good for you bacteria; I wouldn't have that "crap"
anywhere on my property, let alone in my veggie garden. Google
"Milorganite+heavy metals" and then make up your own mind. Organic doesn't
necessarily mean good for you.........nightshade is organic, all mushrooms
are organic, potato and rhubarb leaves are organic, the pods on a golden
chain tree are organic........make a salad and chow down, after all, it's
ALL organic!!

"tenplay" wrote in message
...
I read on the Internet that Milorganite organic turf fertilizer has a
distinct odor that seems to deter deer. Has anyone tried it with any
success? Is it only for lawns or can it be used in the garden too? I'll
probably buy a bag to try it out. The deer have been visiting more and
more, and like to chomp on my wife's favorite garden plants.



Thanks for the heads up. Didn't know that it is such a sinister
product. You can't trust anything to be what it promises to be anymore.


From http://www.milorganite.com/home/faqs.cfm

"Yes, that is true. All fertilizers, both organic and synthetic, contain
some heavy metals. In fact, plants need some heavy metals, such as zinc
and copper and molybdenum, for normal, healthy growth."

an article in the mentioned google search pointed out that cadmium was
the biggest problem, but that changes to wastewater regulations in the
80's on what was allowed to be discharged, has solved that problem.

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On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:57:04 -0700, tenplay wrote:

I read on the Internet that Milorganite organic turf fertilizer has a
distinct odor that seems to deter deer. Has anyone tried it with any
success? Is it only for lawns or can it be used in the garden too?
I'll probably buy a bag to try it out. The deer have been visiting more
and more, and like to chomp on my wife's favorite garden plants.

The only thing that deters deer are physical barriers. They are forbs
eaters and will eat everything in sight if hungry enough. Milorganite
is a sludge product. The sludge is that of human waste.

Do a search for what's called "deer fencing" and you will find it is
very inexpensive and virtually invisible. It's not hard fence, it's a
small gauge plastic mesh and it is six feet tall. You put it up with
stakes. Check that out.

On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 20:06:33 +1200, "George.com"
wrote:

I did as suggested a googled Milorganite last night and found the results
interesting. Some sources state it is safe and rigorously tested to ensure
heavy metals are present only in safely mandated concentrations. Other
sources saying that the safety standards are a result of political lobbying
and somewhat arbitary. I guess it boils down to whether people have a trust
in corporate and beaurecratic US. By the way, we don't get it here in NZ so
my interest is only academic.

rob

For your academic interest, in terms of being natural or safe, the
term organic is bandied about way too often. The ONLY product of any
kind which is truly "organic" in the sense there are no GMOs, heavy
metals, toxic fillers, human sludge, are now called Certified Organic
and MUST live up to that or could potentially lose their production.

It's gotten a lot of attention in the U.S. over the last ten years or
so. Milorganite has changed the way it is made, helping with some of
the problems they had, but you're corret when you assert trust or lack
of in beaurecratic U.S. studies.

it goes up well with aluminum conduit that is cheap, tall and punches into ground
easily. it also helps to put 4' wide section of wide spaced (that green plastic
coated stuff) laying down on the ground in front of the deer or bird netting. deer
dont like walking with something coming up around their feet like that. Ingrid

Jangchub wrote:
Do a search for what's called "deer fencing" and you will find it is
very inexpensive and virtually invisible. It's not hard fence, it's a
small gauge plastic mesh and it is six feet tall. You put it up with
stakes. Check that out.



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6' tall might keep out the runts but the deer here require 8' as a
minimum.
White tail deer in the northeast.
If the terrain allows they will hop 8' on occasion.
Jangchub wrote:
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:57:04 -0700, tenplay wrote:

I read on the Internet that Milorganite organic turf fertilizer has a
distinct odor that seems to deter deer. Has anyone tried it with any
success? Is it only for lawns or can it be used in the garden too?
I'll probably buy a bag to try it out. The deer have been visiting more
and more, and like to chomp on my wife's favorite garden plants.

The only thing that deters deer are physical barriers. They are forbs
eaters and will eat everything in sight if hungry enough. Milorganite
is a sludge product. The sludge is that of human waste.

Do a search for what's called "deer fencing" and you will find it is
very inexpensive and virtually invisible. It's not hard fence, it's a
small gauge plastic mesh and it is six feet tall. You put it up with
stakes. Check that out.