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Natural Insect Repellants
I have a backyard vineyard of about 100 vines.
Does anyone know of any plants that are natural insect repellants that I could plant between the vines. I do not need a product I can eat but something that is pretty would be an added bonus. |
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Natural Insect Repellants
"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in
: I have a backyard vineyard of about 100 vines. Does anyone know of any plants that are natural insect repellants that I could plant between the vines. I do not need a product I can eat but something that is pretty would be an added bonus. Marigolds are old stand-bys for that kind of thing, the smellier, the better. |
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FragileWarrior wrote:
"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in : I have a backyard vineyard of about 100 vines. Does anyone know of any plants that are natural insect repellants that I could plant between the vines. I do not need a product I can eat but something that is pretty would be an added bonus. Marigolds are old stand-bys for that kind of thing, the smellier, the better. There seems to be some dissagreement on this: http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/l...321522908.html |
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:06:26 -0400, "Paul E. Lehmann"
wrote: FragileWarrior wrote: "Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in : I have a backyard vineyard of about 100 vines. Does anyone know of any plants that are natural insect repellants that I could plant between the vines. I do not need a product I can eat but something that is pretty would be an added bonus. Marigolds are old stand-bys for that kind of thing, the smellier, the better. There seems to be some dissagreement on this: http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/l...321522908.html What about planting garlic betweent the rose bushes? Persephone |
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Roses and garlic [was: Natural Insect Repellants]
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:10:37 -0700, Persephone wrote:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:06:26 -0400, "Paul E. Lehmann" wrote: FragileWarrior wrote: "Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in m: I have a backyard vineyard of about 100 vines. Does anyone know of any plants that are natural insect repellants that I could plant between the vines. I do not need a product I can eat but something that is pretty would be an added bonus. Marigolds are old stand-bys for that kind of thing, the smellier, the better. There seems to be some dissagreement on this: http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/l...321522908.html What about planting garlic betweent the rose bushes? Persephone |
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"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in
: FragileWarrior wrote: "Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in : I have a backyard vineyard of about 100 vines. Does anyone know of any plants that are natural insect repellants that I could plant between the vines. I do not need a product I can eat but something that is pretty would be an added bonus. Marigolds are old stand-bys for that kind of thing, the smellier, the better. There seems to be some dissagreement on this: http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/l...321522908.html Have you ever seen anything said on the 'net that DOESN'T have disagreement over it? |
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 12:20:40 +0000 (UTC), FragileWarrior
wrote: Have you ever seen anything said on the 'net that DOESN'T have disagreement over it? Yes, of course. However, there is scientific research regarding the species Tagetes spp. and it is and was used for root knot nematodes not flying, crawling or jumping insects. |
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:55:16 +0000 (UTC), FragileWarrior
wrote: "Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in : I have a backyard vineyard of about 100 vines. Does anyone know of any plants that are natural insect repellants that I could plant between the vines. I do not need a product I can eat but something that is pretty would be an added bonus. Marigolds are old stand-bys for that kind of thing, the smellier, the better. Not true. Marigolds attract spider mites. There is only one variety of marigold which helps prevent root knot nematodes IN the soil. Where did you get "the smellier, the better" from? The way farmers do it in organic method farming is to plant catch crops for whatever insect. Here, for example, aphids adore the young Guara lindheimeri, so those get planted in order to then attract lady beetles...etc. |
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Jangchub wrote in
: On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:55:16 +0000 (UTC), FragileWarrior wrote: "Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in m: I have a backyard vineyard of about 100 vines. Does anyone know of any plants that are natural insect repellants that I could plant between the vines. I do not need a product I can eat but something that is pretty would be an added bonus. Marigolds are old stand-bys for that kind of thing, the smellier, the better. Not true. Marigolds attract spider mites. I have never ever ever ever seen a spider mite on a marigold. Ever. I say this in a seriousness. There is only one variety of marigold which helps prevent root knot nematodes IN the soil. Where did you get "the smellier, the better" from? shrug Who knows? I have not yet the ability to remember the source of everything I have seen and heard and read and watched. I'm working on it tho'. I hope to master it before I die. The way farmers do it in organic method farming is to plant catch crops for whatever insect. Here, for example, aphids adore the young Guara lindheimeri, so those get planted in order to then attract lady beetles...etc. So, by that logic, then Marigolds COULD work under the right conditions, right? |
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 12:24:07 +0000 (UTC), FragileWarrior
wrote: Not true. Marigolds attract spider mites. I have never ever ever ever seen a spider mite on a marigold. Ever. I say this in a seriousness. Spider mites are microscopic. They cover from top to bottom any marigold I've ever planted. They are used in farming as catch crops to draw the attention of spider mites. I say this in all factualness (not a real word I don't think) shrug Who knows? I have not yet the ability to remember the source of everything I have seen and heard and read and watched. I'm working on it tho'. I hope to master it before I die. If you don't remember where you heard something why would you pass it on as fact? One thing I'm learning is to not advise based on my own BS, but to advise based on the facts. I believe your heart was in the right place, but I do not think you gave good information regarding this subject. The way farmers do it in organic method farming is to plant catch crops for whatever insect. Here, for example, aphids adore the young Guara lindheimeri, so those get planted in order to then attract lady beetles...etc. So, by that logic, then Marigolds COULD work under the right conditions, right? Not in the way you said they work. They do not repel insects, rather attract them thus farmers use them as catch crops. So, the answer to your last question is no, by no logic do marigolds work under the right conditions to repel insects. |
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Natural Insect Repellants
Jangchub wrote in
: If you don't remember where you heard something why would you pass it on as fact? Actually, I said it tongue in cheek. *sigh* The printed word is SUCH a limiting medium. May all your authoritive advice always be right on the money and may you never, ever, EVER make a mistake. Carry on! |
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 19:22:57 +0100, Janet Baraclough
wrote: Marigolds are a member of the family which are the natural source of pyrethrum, which was marketed as an effective insecticide. The pungent smell-quotient in marigold leaves, is the pyrethrum, so ones with the smelliest leaves, have the most insecticide. In the UK, gardeners who grow tomatoes and basil in glasshouses, often grow marigolds in there too, as a sacrifice plant to kill whitefly. Janet. Wrong. C. coccineum is NO relation to Tagetes. You are also wrong about it being the "leaves, is the pyrethrum." Pyrethrum come from a Chrysanthamum coccineum plant and it is the crushed flowers where the poison is, not the foliage. |
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On Mar 31, 4:46 pm, Jangchub wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 19:22:57 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote: Marigolds are a member of the family which are the natural source of pyrethrum, which was marketed as an effective insecticide. The pungent smell-quotient in marigold leaves, is the pyrethrum, so ones with the smelliest leaves, have the most insecticide. In the UK, gardeners who grow tomatoes and basil in glasshouses, often grow marigolds in there too, as a sacrifice plant to kill whitefly. Janet. Wrong. C. coccineum is NO relation to Tagetes. You are also wrong about it being the "leaves, is the pyrethrum." Pyrethrum come from a Chrysanthamum coccineum plant and it is the crushed flowers where the poison is, not the foliage. Yes, and marigolds are used as companion plants with tomatoes, and they do not contain pyrethrum. The main point is that they deter certain insects that like tomatoe plants. Marigolds are not an insecticide. They are a deterrent. dancing in my mind, gloria in hemlock hollow (only the iguanas know for sure) |
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On 31 Mar 2007 19:26:43 -0700, "gldancer"
wrote: Yes, and marigolds are used as companion plants with tomatoes, and they do not contain pyrethrum. The main point is that they deter certain insects that like tomatoe plants. Marigolds are not an insecticide. They are a deterrent. dancing in my mind, gloria in hemlock hollow (only the iguanas know for sure) Oy, there is ONE marigold which can control or help to control root knot nematodes. Otherwise, they are useless. You'd be much better off planting garlic or basil with tomatoes. |
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On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 00:21:19 +0100, Janet Baraclough
wrote: The active chemical occurs in several members of the compositae family, including, chrysanthemum and marigold. See http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/54...scription.html which is much too long to reproduce here, but here's a snippet "Industrially, pyrethrum extracts are obtained by extraction of dried pyrethrum flowers with hexane followed by dewaxing and decolorization to yield a mixture containing approximately 20% pyrethrins and 80% inert plant materials or solvents. This technical extract is registered with the Environmental Protection Agency and is a standard item of commerce used for formulating numerous end products. Flower production is centered in Kenya and surrounding countries, with some production being attempted in Tasmania and New Guinea. While pyrethrum flowers are not grown commercially in the United States, some of the Compositae (daisies, marigolds, etc.) in U.S. gardens probably produce these compounds. There has been an effort to cultivate C. cinerariaefolium in Oregon and Arizona but this is not yet a viable commercial source. " Janet. All this says is that no form of Tagetes has been formulated as a viable source, so you, me, nobody anywhere has ever used any form of Tagetes to kill insects. Pyrethrum FLOWERS is where the compound is found, not the leaves. Your post proves it. |
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