just heard on the 5:30 news that some company is planning on building a
factory in Florida that will produce ethanol from orange peel and other
citric waste.

wonder what that will do to citric prices in the stores.......

Then it wouldn't be called waste, would it? Waste is a human term for
inefficient management.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.


"rachael simpson" wrote in message
...
just heard on the 5:30 news that some company is planning on building a
factory in Florida that will produce ethanol from orange peel and other
citric waste.

wonder what that will do to citric prices in the stores.......

symplastless wrote:
Then it wouldn't be called waste, would it? Waste is a human term for
inefficient management.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

true,

that was the news report's word for it, not mine
it was reported on the local nbc station. trying to find a link for the
story, so far no luck though.

rachael simpson wrote:
just heard on the 5:30 news that some company is planning on building a
factory in Florida that will produce ethanol from orange peel and other
citric waste.

wonder what that will do to citric prices in the stores.......

Anything with sugar, starch and/or cellulose can be fermented if the
polysacharides are broken down first to simple sugars. You could
probably also burn the limonene extracted from orange peel in a diesel
but then your vehicle would really smell like a lemon
Frank

Frank wrote:
rachael simpson wrote:
just heard on the 5:30 news that some company is planning on building
a factory in Florida that will produce ethanol from orange peel and
other citric waste.

wonder what that will do to citric prices in the stores.......

Anything with sugar, starch and/or cellulose can be fermented if the
polysacharides are broken down first to simple sugars. You could
probably also burn the limonene extracted from orange peel in a diesel
but then your vehicle would really smell like a lemon
Frank


i could go for the smell..........but agree with others that they should
find something else to use instead of driving food prices up.

rachael simpson wrote:
just heard on the 5:30 news that some company is planning on building a
factory in Florida that will produce ethanol from orange peel and other
citric waste.

wonder what that will do to citric prices in the stores.......

I'm sure the word you want is "citrus".

On Jul 20, 8:49 pm, Sheldon wrote:
rachael simpson wrote:
just heard on the 5:30 news that some company is planning on building a
factory in Florida that will produce ethanol from orange peel and other
citric waste.

wonder what that will do to citric prices in the stores.......

I'm sure the word you want is "citrus".

yes, sorry, didn't catch that when i was typing...........thank you
sheldon

"rachael simpson" wrote in message
...
just heard on the 5:30 news that some company is planning on building a
factory in Florida that will produce ethanol from orange peel and other
citric waste.

wonder what that will do to citric prices in the stores.......


Let's say that hypothetically, the waste is what's left after making orange
juice. Why would using the waste for some other purpose affect the price of
the juice you buy?

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"rachael simpson" wrote in message
...
just heard on the 5:30 news that some company is planning on building a
factory in Florida that will produce ethanol from orange peel and other
citric waste.

wonder what that will do to citric prices in the stores.......


Let's say that hypothetically, the waste is what's left after making
orange
juice. Why would using the waste for some other purpose affect the price
of
the juice you buy?

Maybe not juice, but maybe milk. Like high corn prices have done.
"Food into Fuel", the 21st century miracle......... And, they'll still feed
the leftover, less nutritional crap to cows.

FPL to Convert Citrus Waste Into Ethanol | Chron.com - Houston ..."That
waste is normally converted into animal feed. Our waste product is the
animal feed, so the animals don't lose out completely," Stewart said.

Great. So

Actually, that is a proper term for materials which normally have no
use for the manufacturer. I give anyone credit who is trying to make
a change and I'm pretty surprised by your statement.

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:41:48 -0400, "symplastless"
wrote:

Then it wouldn't be called waste, would it? Waste is a human term for
inefficient management.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.


"rachael simpson" wrote in message
...
just heard on the 5:30 news that some company is planning on building a
factory in Florida that will produce ethanol from orange peel and other
citric waste.

wonder what that will do to citric prices in the stores.......

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:58:47 -0400, rachael simpson
wrote:


i could go for the smell..........but agree with others that they should
find something else to use instead of driving food prices up.

What makes you think food prices will go up because a company, which
most likely uses the oranges to make juice, will use the waste to
supplement petrol?

"jangchub" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:58:47 -0400, rachael simpson
wrote:

i could go for the smell..........but agree with others that they should
find something else to use instead of driving food prices up.

What makes you think food prices will go up because a company, which
most likely uses the oranges to make juice, will use the waste to
supplement petrol?

Fundamentally, I'm against finding ways to keep the internal combustion
engine going, especially if it involves using food or food by-products. The
by-products should be composted and returned to the earth, rather than
burned.
Besides the use of citrus waste for animal feed (which may be good or
bad), but will make poultry and cow raisers look for alternatives, citrus
oil has uses as a bio-friendly cleaner, flavouring, and other uses listed at
the site below.
I imagine candied lemon peel will cost more, at the very least...

http://www.citrusdepot.biz/applications.html

Direct Solvent Replacement being extremely useful, imo.

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:31:08 -0500, "cat daddy"
wrote:


"jangchub" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:58:47 -0400, rachael simpson
wrote:

i could go for the smell..........but agree with others that they should
find something else to use instead of driving food prices up.

What makes you think food prices will go up because a company, which
most likely uses the oranges to make juice, will use the waste to
supplement petrol?

Fundamentally, I'm against finding ways to keep the internal combustion
engine going, especially if it involves using food or food by-products. The
by-products should be composted and returned to the earth, rather than
burned.
Besides the use of citrus waste for animal feed (which may be good or
bad), but will make poultry and cow raisers look for alternatives, citrus
oil has uses as a bio-friendly cleaner, flavouring, and other uses listed at
the site below.
I imagine candied lemon peel will cost more, at the very least...

http://www.citrusdepot.biz/applications.html

Direct Solvent Replacement being extremely useful, imo.

I understand your point, but wouldn't it be better for the environment
if they did something/anything, to replace the burning of fossil
fuels? I doubt they put citrus into a compost at Tropicana.

I think anything is better than this idiotic use of petrol.

"jangchub" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:31:08 -0500, "cat daddy"
wrote:


"jangchub" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:58:47 -0400, rachael simpson
wrote:

i could go for the smell..........but agree with others that they
should
find something else to use instead of driving food prices up.

What makes you think food prices will go up because a company, which
most likely uses the oranges to make juice, will use the waste to
supplement petrol?

Fundamentally, I'm against finding ways to keep the internal
combustion
engine going, especially if it involves using food or food by-products.
The
by-products should be composted and returned to the earth, rather than
burned.
Besides the use of citrus waste for animal feed (which may be good or
bad), but will make poultry and cow raisers look for alternatives, citrus
oil has uses as a bio-friendly cleaner, flavouring, and other uses listed
at
the site below.
I imagine candied lemon peel will cost more, at the very least...

http://www.citrusdepot.biz/applications.html

Direct Solvent Replacement being extremely useful, imo.

I understand your point, but wouldn't it be better for the environment
if they did something/anything, to replace the burning of fossil
fuels?

If it actually replaces fossil fuels, perhaps in the short term, until we
come to our senses about we live on this planet. The current biofuel/factory
farm monoculture fad still uses more energy to produce, transport, and
fertilize (from oil).

I doubt they put citrus into a compost at Tropicana.

If it doesn't have cash profit, the right thing is never done.

I think anything is better than this idiotic use of petrol.

In article ,
"cat daddy" wrote:

"jangchub" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:58:47 -0400, rachael simpson
wrote:

i could go for the smell..........but agree with others that they should
find something else to use instead of driving food prices up.

What makes you think food prices will go up because a company, which
most likely uses the oranges to make juice, will use the waste to
supplement petrol?

Fundamentally, I'm against finding ways to keep the internal combustion
engine going, especially if it involves using food or food by-products. The
by-products should be composted and returned to the earth, rather than
burned.
Besides the use of citrus waste for animal feed (which may be good or
bad), but will make poultry and cow raisers look for alternatives, citrus
oil has uses as a bio-friendly cleaner, flavouring, and other uses listed at
the site below.
I imagine candied lemon peel will cost more, at the very least...

http://www.citrusdepot.biz/applications.html

Direct Solvent Replacement being extremely useful, imo.

This is what happens when you starve out the small farmer and leave a
few agri-businesses controlling food production. It's another turn of
the screw in the closing of the "Commons".
--
Billy
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/