Has anyone been watching PBS's Victory Garden this season? Everyone
from last season except Kip (the gardner) is gone. The new hosts are
just horrible. The programs seem to be all over the place and most of
them have not been worth watching. There was one where the host spent
almost the entire post bending metal for a potting design. What a waste!

PBS had a great program in the Victory Garden but, IMO they ruined it.
They need to go back to the good old days when they had great hosts and
spent their time on interesting gardening subjects.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)

Gardening for over 40 years

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"Bill R" wrote in message
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Has anyone been watching PBS's Victory Garden this season? Everyone from
last season except Kip (the gardner) is gone. The new hosts are just
horrible. The programs seem to be all over the place and most of them
have not been worth watching. There was one where the host spent almost
the entire post bending metal for a potting design. What a waste!

PBS had a great program in the Victory Garden but, IMO they ruined it.
They need to go back to the good old days when they had great hosts and
spent their time on interesting gardening subjects.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)


Have you been watching it since the original, with Jim Crockett? He
understood continuity and focus.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Bill R" wrote in message
...

Has anyone been watching PBS's Victory Garden this season? Everyone from
last season except Kip (the gardner) is gone. The new hosts are just
horrible. The programs seem to be all over the place and most of them
have not been worth watching. There was one where the host spent almost
the entire post bending metal for a potting design. What a waste!

PBS had a great program in the Victory Garden but, IMO they ruined it.
They need to go back to the good old days when they had great hosts and
spent their time on interesting gardening subjects.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)



Have you been watching it since the original, with Jim Crockett? He
understood continuity and focus.



Yes, I am that old. And back then the show was ALL about gardening.
In the last few years it has taken quite a different direction. Less
gardening and a lot of other stuff that I don't watch a gardening
program for.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)

Gardening for over 40 years

To see pictures from my garden visit http://members.iglou.com/brosen

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On 9/30/07 11:51 AM, in article ,
"Bill R" wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Bill R" wrote in message
...

Has anyone been watching PBS's Victory Garden this season? Everyone from
last season except Kip (the gardner) is gone. The new hosts are just
horrible. The programs seem to be all over the place and most of them
have not been worth watching. There was one where the host spent almost
the entire post bending metal for a potting design. What a waste!

PBS had a great program in the Victory Garden but, IMO they ruined it.
They need to go back to the good old days when they had great hosts and
spent their time on interesting gardening subjects.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)



Have you been watching it since the original, with Jim Crockett? He
understood continuity and focus.



Yes, I am that old. And back then the show was ALL about gardening.
In the last few years it has taken quite a different direction. Less
gardening and a lot of other stuff that I don't watch a gardening
program for.

Me too. I stopped watching it when the guy with the goofy laugh took over.
HE WAS HORRIBLE.

While I like shows that are tours of private or public gardens, the only
show I've seen recently (that might even go back a year or more) that is
truly a gardening show is Gardening By the Yard. And he cheers me up most
days.

Cheryl

In article ,
Cheryl Isaak wrote:

On 9/30/07 11:51 AM, in article ,
"Bill R" wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Bill R" wrote in message
...

Has anyone been watching PBS's Victory Garden this season? Everyone from
last season except Kip (the gardner) is gone. The new hosts are just
horrible. The programs seem to be all over the place and most of them
have not been worth watching. There was one where the host spent almost
the entire post bending metal for a potting design. What a waste!

PBS had a great program in the Victory Garden but, IMO they ruined it.
They need to go back to the good old days when they had great hosts and
spent their time on interesting gardening subjects.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)



Have you been watching it since the original, with Jim Crockett? He
understood continuity and focus.



Yes, I am that old. And back then the show was ALL about gardening.
In the last few years it has taken quite a different direction. Less
gardening and a lot of other stuff that I don't watch a gardening
program for.

Me too. I stopped watching it when the guy with the goofy laugh took over.
HE WAS HORRIBLE.

While I like shows that are tours of private or public gardens, the only
show I've seen recently (that might even go back a year or more) that is
truly a gardening show is Gardening By the Yard. And he cheers me up most
days.

Cheryl

The old guy before Crockett was not too media wise but he seemed to
have useful info. Perhaps I was a newbie but conveying wisdom in such
a manner was like talking with extended family. Worth watching him too
bad I was out trying to extend my gene line at the time.
I'd like to see these PBS shows on DVD but alas I must settle for "Hot
Fuzz".

Bill

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"William Wagner" wrote in message
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In article ,
Cheryl Isaak wrote:

On 9/30/07 11:51 AM, in article ,
"Bill R" wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Bill R" wrote in message
...

Has anyone been watching PBS's Victory Garden this season? Everyone
from
last season except Kip (the gardner) is gone. The new hosts are just
horrible. The programs seem to be all over the place and most of
them
have not been worth watching. There was one where the host spent
almost
the entire post bending metal for a potting design. What a waste!

PBS had a great program in the Victory Garden but, IMO they ruined
it.
They need to go back to the good old days when they had great hosts
and
spent their time on interesting gardening subjects.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)



Have you been watching it since the original, with Jim Crockett? He
understood continuity and focus.



Yes, I am that old. And back then the show was ALL about gardening.
In the last few years it has taken quite a different direction. Less
gardening and a lot of other stuff that I don't watch a gardening
program for.

Me too. I stopped watching it when the guy with the goofy laugh took
over.
HE WAS HORRIBLE.

While I like shows that are tours of private or public gardens, the only
show I've seen recently (that might even go back a year or more) that is
truly a gardening show is Gardening By the Yard. And he cheers me up most
days.

Cheryl

The old guy before Crockett was not too media wise but he seemed to
have useful info. Perhaps I was a newbie but conveying wisdom in such
a manner was like talking with extended family. Worth watching him too
bad I was out trying to extend my gene line at the time.
I'd like to see these PBS shows on DVD but alas I must settle for "Hot
Fuzz".

Bill


I mentioned the Victory Garden book to one of my neighbors recently. She
said "But that book's so old".

tap tap tap.....

Similar: My son told me that a girl in his dorm ordered some clothing for
herself from LLBean or some place like that. Several kids were chillaxin' in
the lounge with her when she opened the package. She had ordered gift
wrapping for the item. She said she wanted it to be a surprise.

On 9/30/07 5:25 PM, in article
,
"William Wagner" wrote:

In article ,
Cheryl Isaak wrote:

On 9/30/07 11:51 AM, in article ,
"Bill R" wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Bill R" wrote in message
...

Has anyone been watching PBS's Victory Garden this season? Everyone from
last season except Kip (the gardner) is gone. The new hosts are just
horrible. The programs seem to be all over the place and most of them
have not been worth watching. There was one where the host spent almost
the entire post bending metal for a potting design. What a waste!

PBS had a great program in the Victory Garden but, IMO they ruined it.
They need to go back to the good old days when they had great hosts and
spent their time on interesting gardening subjects.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)



Have you been watching it since the original, with Jim Crockett? He
understood continuity and focus.



Yes, I am that old. And back then the show was ALL about gardening.
In the last few years it has taken quite a different direction. Less
gardening and a lot of other stuff that I don't watch a gardening
program for.

Me too. I stopped watching it when the guy with the goofy laugh took over.
HE WAS HORRIBLE.

While I like shows that are tours of private or public gardens, the only
show I've seen recently (that might even go back a year or more) that is
truly a gardening show is Gardening By the Yard. And he cheers me up most
days.

Cheryl

The old guy before Crockett was not too media wise but he seemed to
have useful info. Perhaps I was a newbie but conveying wisdom in such
a manner was like talking with extended family. Worth watching him too
bad I was out trying to extend my gene line at the time.
I'd like to see these PBS shows on DVD but alas I must settle for "Hot
Fuzz".

Bill
Not old enough to remember him (LOL). There was this quirky show from
Michigan - two old rosarians with all sorts of interesting info. Loved
watching it - never for one second did I believe they did all the work -
like burying the canes for the winter.


BTW - I googled Hot Fuzz. Another case of the BBC exporting their worst bits
of TV and the US lapping it up?

C

William Wagner expounded:

The old guy before Crockett was not too media wise but he seemed to
have useful info. Perhaps I was a newbie but conveying wisdom in such
a manner was like talking with extended family. Worth watching him too
bad I was out trying to extend my gene line at the time.
I'd like to see these PBS shows on DVD but alas I must settle for "Hot
Fuzz".

Before Crockett? He was the first. Bob Thompson took over for him
when he got sick - he died at 65 ( Jim was a big chemical advocate
at first, but he learned and changed in his latter years. Bob he
died of Alzheimer's, which cut his career short. More info here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vic...den_(TV_series)
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
e-mail address is not checked
******************************

Cheryl Isaak wrote:

While I like shows that are tours of private or public gardens, the only
show I've seen recently (that might even go back a year or more) that is
truly a gardening show is Gardening By the Yard. And he cheers me up most
days.

Cheryl


Gardening By The Yard is a show that I record every week (just the new
episodes). For those of you that don't know GBTY is on HGTV and the new
programs are on Saturday at noon (EDT) and they show some of the older
episodes on Sunday.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)

Gardening for over 40 years

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On 10/1/07 11:24 AM, in article ,
"Bill R" wrote:

Cheryl Isaak wrote:

While I like shows that are tours of private or public gardens, the only
show I've seen recently (that might even go back a year or more) that is
truly a gardening show is Gardening By the Yard. And he cheers me up most
days.

Cheryl


Gardening By The Yard is a show that I record every week (just the new
episodes). For those of you that don't know GBTY is on HGTV and the new
programs are on Saturday at noon (EDT) and they show some of the older
episodes on Sunday.
I generally like Paul James (really liked his cooking show too). He's down
to earth and you feel like he must do most of his own work.

C

"Bill R" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Bill R" wrote in message
...

Has anyone been watching PBS's Victory Garden this season? Everyone from
last season except Kip (the gardner) is gone. The new hosts are just
horrible. The programs seem to be all over the place and most of them
have not been worth watching. There was one where the host spent almost
the entire post bending metal for a potting design. What a waste!

PBS had a great program in the Victory Garden but, IMO they ruined it.
They need to go back to the good old days when they had great hosts and
spent their time on interesting gardening subjects.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)



Have you been watching it since the original, with Jim Crockett? He
understood continuity and focus.

Yes, I am that old. And back then the show was ALL about gardening. In
the last few years it has taken quite a different direction. Less
gardening and a lot of other stuff that I don't watch a gardening program
for.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)


I wonder what killed Crockett. Although I love his book, the guy was always
spraying something.

Charlie wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:05:11 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


I wonder what killed Crockett. Although I love his book, the guy was
always
spraying something.

Did you try google?


What? Follow the advice I throw at everyone else? Are you insane?

In article ,
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

"Bill R" wrote in message
...
Has anyone been watching PBS's Victory Garden this season? Everyone from
last season except Kip (the gardner) is gone. The new hosts are just
horrible. The programs seem to be all over the place and most of them
have not been worth watching. There was one where the host spent almost
the entire post bending metal for a potting design. What a waste!

PBS had a great program in the Victory Garden but, IMO they ruined it.
They need to go back to the good old days when they had great hosts and
spent their time on interesting gardening subjects.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)


Have you been watching it since the original, with Jim Crockett? He
understood continuity and focus.

Jim Crockett's book may be about. I have it somewhere but I can't give
you ISBD # if it had one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Underwood_Crockett

Worth a search!

Bill

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"William Wagner" wrote in message
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In article ,
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

"Bill R" wrote in message
...
Has anyone been watching PBS's Victory Garden this season? Everyone
from
last season except Kip (the gardner) is gone. The new hosts are just
horrible. The programs seem to be all over the place and most of them
have not been worth watching. There was one where the host spent
almost
the entire post bending metal for a potting design. What a waste!

PBS had a great program in the Victory Garden but, IMO they ruined it.
They need to go back to the good old days when they had great hosts and
spent their time on interesting gardening subjects.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)


Have you been watching it since the original, with Jim Crockett? He
understood continuity and focus.

Jim Crockett's book may be about. I have it somewhere but I can't give
you ISBD # if it had one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Underwood_Crockett

Worth a search!

Bill

www.powells.com usually has a few used copies.

I really should keep my copy in a fire safe. And, it's one of the few books
I'd never loan to anyone, unless they were prepared to die if they lost it.
:-)

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"William Wagner" wrote in message
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In article ,
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

"Bill R" wrote in message
...
Has anyone been watching PBS's Victory Garden this season? Everyone
from
last season except Kip (the gardner) is gone. The new hosts are just
horrible. The programs seem to be all over the place and most of them
have not been worth watching. There was one where the host spent
almost
the entire post bending metal for a potting design. What a waste!

PBS had a great program in the Victory Garden but, IMO they ruined it.
They need to go back to the good old days when they had great hosts and
spent their time on interesting gardening subjects.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)

Have you been watching it since the original, with Jim Crockett? He
understood continuity and focus.
Jim Crockett's book may be about. I have it somewhere but I can't give
you ISBD # if it had one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Underwood_Crockett

Worth a search!

Bill

www.powells.com usually has a few used copies.

I really should keep my copy in a fire safe. And, it's one of the few books
I'd never loan to anyone, unless they were prepared to die if they lost it.
:-)



"Crockett's Victory Garden" was published in 1977. Believe he died of
cancer 2 years later. Wife was lucky to win a copy of his book at a
garden center nearby. I often refer to it.

Frank