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Google vs. Newsgroups
Why doesn't everyone just Google everything?
I mean, there are people who vehemently believe that EVERY QUESTION IN THE KNOWN UNIVERSE can be answered by Googling. Ergo: Usenet Newsgroups are useless and pointless. Mental masturbation. Pointless discussion by inferior human beings who don't know everything, yet like to talk about their lack of education, knowledge, refinement and culture. I just don't get it. Steve ;-) |
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SteveB wrote:
Why doesn't everyone just Google everything? I mean, there are people who vehemently believe that EVERY QUESTION IN THE KNOWN UNIVERSE can be answered by Googling. Ergo: Usenet Newsgroups are useless and pointless. Mental masturbation. Pointless discussion by inferior human beings who don't know everything, yet like to talk about their lack of education, knowledge, refinement and culture. I just don't get it. Steve ;-) Would you be awful mad if I... http://groups.google.com/groups/sear...vs.+Newsgroups Hmmm, but maybe that'll fuel your fire... http://groups.google.com/groups/sear...den+Composting |
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Scott Hildenbrand wrote: SteveB wrote: Why doesn't everyone just Google everything? I mean, there are people who vehemently believe that EVERY QUESTION IN THE KNOWN UNIVERSE can be answered by Googling. Ergo: Usenet Newsgroups are useless and pointless. Mental masturbation. Pointless discussion by inferior human beings who don't know everything, yet like to talk about their lack of education, knowledge, refinement and culture. I just don't get it. Steve ;-) Would you be awful mad if I... http://groups.google.com/groups/sear...vs.+Newsgroups Hmmm, but maybe that'll fuel your fire... http://groups.google.com/groups/sear...den+Composting Bwah-ha-ha-ha :-D -- FB - FFF Billy Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights. Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight. - Bob Marley |
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"SteveB" wrote in message
I just don't get it. That observation has already been made. |
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One such usual post is one where one wants an ID of a plant, enclosed with
pictures of same... Answer may be somewhere on the internet, but no way to use a picture as a question in google. What puzzles me about your observation is why you're even posting or reading in a newsgroup. -- Dave Profound is we're here due to a chance arrangement of chemicals in the ocean billions of years ago. More profound is we made it to the top of the food chain per our reasoning abilities. Most profound is the denial of why we may be on the way out. "SteveB" wrote in message ... Why doesn't everyone just Google everything? I mean, there are people who vehemently believe that EVERY QUESTION IN THE KNOWN UNIVERSE can be answered by Googling. Ergo: Usenet Newsgroups are useless and pointless. Mental masturbation. Pointless discussion by inferior human beings who don't know everything, yet like to talk about their lack of education, knowledge, refinement and culture. I just don't get it. Steve ;-) |
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"SteveB" wrote:
Why doesn't everyone just Google everything? Those who right away holler Google are just dimwitted newbies... proper procedure is to search the Newsgroup for relevant threads *prior* to posting questions... those who just barge in expecting immediate gratifiction are rude and crude boors to be avoided. |
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Scott Hildenbrand wrote:
SteveB wrote: Why doesn't everyone just Google everything? I mean, there are people who vehemently believe that EVERY QUESTION IN THE KNOWN UNIVERSE can be answered by Googling. Ergo: Usenet Newsgroups are useless and pointless. Mental masturbation. Pointless discussion by inferior human beings who don't know everything, yet like to talk about their lack of education, knowledge, refinement and culture. I just don't get it. Steve ;-) Would you be awful mad if I... http://groups.google.com/groups/sear...vs.+Newsgroups Hmmm, but maybe that'll fuel your fire... http://groups.google.com/groups/sear...den+Composting I responded to one of his other posts. He'd rather argue than discuss. Think he's a jerk, but that's just my opinion Frank |
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I agree that one should look in the newsgroup before posting, but the
unfortunate fact is that usenet is falling into disuse, as most people find a web search a more efficient way of finding information. Many ISPs no longer offer usenet, while almost all who do limit the resources they will dedicate to usenet, and the result is that postings and whole threads appear to have disappeared from usenet, depending on how much storage your ISP has allocated, so a usenet search is often a waste of time. To get more thorough coverage of usenet, you have to join one of the usenet services, at a fee, and even then the coverage is never complete. So doing a web search that includes usenet postings (as, I believe, does google, but I really don't know as I prefer another search engine) is the most efficient way to get information at the current time. Usenet is a superior way of discussing a subject, I think, and I've picked up valuable information on it, but unfortunately, there are quite a few half-wits who clutter it with extraneous comments that would earn them a quick seat on the floor in a bar. Sheldon wrote: "SteveB" wrote: Why doesn't everyone just Google everything? Those who right away holler Google are just dimwitted newbies... proper procedure is to search the Newsgroup for relevant threads *prior* to posting questions... those who just barge in expecting immediate gratifiction are rude and crude boors to be avoided. |
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As an old and dedicated Usenet user, I've found that if I want to review a
subject, I'll use the groups feature in Google and just search there. I hope Usenet never disappears - I really prefer it to the myriad of boards, private lists and other existing folderol. C On 11/8/07 2:00 PM, in article , "Not@home" wrote: I agree that one should look in the newsgroup before posting, but the unfortunate fact is that usenet is falling into disuse, as most people find a web search a more efficient way of finding information. Many ISPs no longer offer usenet, while almost all who do limit the resources they will dedicate to usenet, and the result is that postings and whole threads appear to have disappeared from usenet, depending on how much storage your ISP has allocated, so a usenet search is often a waste of time. To get more thorough coverage of usenet, you have to join one of the usenet services, at a fee, and even then the coverage is never complete. So doing a web search that includes usenet postings (as, I believe, does google, but I really don't know as I prefer another search engine) is the most efficient way to get information at the current time. Usenet is a superior way of discussing a subject, I think, and I've picked up valuable information on it, but unfortunately, there are quite a few half-wits who clutter it with extraneous comments that would earn them a quick seat on the floor in a bar. Sheldon wrote: "SteveB" wrote: Why doesn't everyone just Google everything? Those who right away holler Google are just dimwitted newbies... proper procedure is to search the Newsgroup for relevant threads *prior* to posting questions... those who just barge in expecting immediate gratifiction are rude and crude boors to be avoided. |
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On Nov 8, 2:00?pm, "Not@home" wrote:
I agree that one should look in the newsgroup before posting, but the unfortunate fact is that usenet is falling into disuse, as most people find a web search a more efficient way of finding information. Nonsense. Searching this Newsgroup for compost results in many relevant threads that have been discussed here, many recently. SteveB has proven that he is an extremely otiose obnoxious small minded infantile troll. http://groups.google.com/groups/sear...=Search+Groups |
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SteveB wrote: Why doesn't everyone just Google everything? I mean, there are people who vehemently believe that EVERY QUESTION IN THE KNOWN UNIVERSE can be answered by Googling. I think not because some questions humans do not have the answers for yet, nor do computers either duh. You have to know some tricks about framing your search and how to use the advanced search function which doesn't seem to work as well as it did before for me; others may know something about that I don't. I use google all the time. Sometimes it is very helpful, and sometimes it is useless because it spits back too many results to sift through, plus you have to use some discernment because there is a lot of disinformation out there, well usenet has its share of that, too. Google can't seem to archive subpages of many websites, probably can't keep up. The cached feature is nice at times. So many searches for products or info you have to go to a specific website and use their search engine (which often don't work very well, won't search for exact phrases, etc.). At least you can't get flamed by google. Yet. Ergo: Usenet Newsgroups are useless and pointless. Mental masturbation. Pointless discussion by inferior human beings who don't know everything, yet like to talk about their lack of education, knowledge, refinement and culture. I just don't get it. Some groups are what you say and worse, but I don't get the point of your post really, other than to put down others. If the discussions are pointless and subhuman, why read them? There are many educated, knowledgeable, refined, and cultured people on usenet, many the opposite, and some in between. Usenet can be a valuable resource. I search the archives all the time. But they have changed the links to get to them a few times. But that's the beauty of usenet. I can ask on a group, not sure which one, if anybody has a link to the current url for google archives. I plead guilty to jumping in and asking a quetion (as a poster mentioned on another thread) without looking through a myriad of threads for the same one that has already been asked recently. I only dl so many, and headers can be misleading, plus there is the general topic and sometimes the discussion veers off into something else. There are many intelligent, helpful people on usenet, and nothing beats being able to interact with another human than with a server somewhere. You can get answers really fast sometimes on usenet, too, that you could do umpteen searches on google and maybe finally dig out or not. I can't tell you how many times people have steered me to the right website. Somebody here identified a plant for me, a bird somewhere else, help with computer problems, etc., etc., etc., and I posted a photo of an arbor I had searched and searched for using google. They had seen kits for one. I did have to google some more, but I finally found it. Once I had a name for the model(s), I could find it in a snap. I can't find this certain purple aster I'd like by googling. It would be hard to describe. The petals are like fringe only upright. I found a similar one but has white around the edges. If you happen to be expert or knowledgeable on a certain subject, its generous of people to be willing to share that knowledge and be helpful to others. For the answer to that, I'll have to ask the lady who brought one to a meeting (she won a prize for it, I just want it because it is pretty and would work well in a new garden area I'm planning) and hope she remembers the name of it. Steve ;-) Maybe you are just bored and want to yank a few chains? ;-) |
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"SteveB" wrote in message ... Why doesn't everyone just Google everything? I mean, there are people who vehemently believe that EVERY QUESTION IN THE KNOWN UNIVERSE can be answered by Googling. Ergo: Usenet Newsgroups are useless and pointless. Mental masturbation. Pointless discussion by inferior human beings who don't know everything, yet like to talk about their lack of education, knowledge, refinement and culture. I just don't get it. Steve ;-) In the composting thread I stayed away from the argument over form, approach and style. I thought it possible that you deserved the benefit of the doubt, you might be genuine but caught up in a silly ****ing competition that neither you nor some regular curmudgeons knew how to end. Now you produce a new thread with no on-topic content simply to re-energize the argument. You have removed the doubt - now you are just trolling. David |
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Sheldon wrote: On Nov 8, 2:00?pm, "Not@home" wrote: I agree that one should look in the newsgroup before posting, but the unfortunate fact is that usenet is falling into disuse, as most people find a web search a more efficient way of finding information. Nonsense. Searching this Newsgroup for compost results in many relevant threads that have been discussed here, many recently. SteveB has proven that he is an extremely otiose obnoxious small minded infantile troll. http://groups.google.com/groups/sear...=Search+Groups The nonsense is that you are advocating doing a web based search using google, when you apparently think you are doing a usenet search. In other words, if google didn't copy the usenet posts into their website, you wouldn't find them. Usenet and the web were, and are, separate entities, and you can still use usenet exclusively using a reader, rather than a web browser. I don't use internet explorer enough to be certain, but I believe is does not contain a news reader, so it will only find web based information. If the google company chooses to not copy some newsgroups, your search will never find them. Unfortunately, apparently using newsgroups is not practiced by many people any more, so many browsers now are published without a reader component, and many ISPs are no longer carrying usenet. I started years ago with the boards, and usenet seemed a natural progression; but none of my three kids spends any time on usenet. I guess thats progress. I agree with your evaluation of the OP; he is here (but not, thank goodness, in recent days) only to function as a troll. When I posted a non-flattering response to him, he of course responded with what he thought was a witty riposte. He was half-right. When I posted in the same thread later, he accused me of morphing to evade the filter he had set. The problem was I had not morphed and was using the same identifying data, so apparently he cannot even set a filter without assistance. |
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Not@home wrote: I don't use internet explorer enough to be certain, but I believe is does not contain a news reader, so it will only find web based information. If the google company chooses to not copy some newsgroups, your search will never find them. IE6 had a newsreader, worked fine, you could attach files to binary groups, and I was using it until the upgrade to IE7 was rekeased which messed them all up. You could get to them, but in a convoluted way, thru a url, and it messed it all up to the point that even after I uninstaled it and went back to IE6, they were still ruined in that I got headers in both the header pane and message pane, no messages, lost patience and quit trying to troubleshoot that. So I started using Netscape as my newsreader again, I liked an older version of that better the way you could flag messages and threads, didn't like the way OE did it, but it would crash and have probs from time to time. The version of Netscape I am using works well enough for my needs. I have since re-upgraded to IE7 but just use it for web browsing. I was disappointed they did that. So many netizens don't seem to even know usenet exists or how to access and use it, assuming their ISP still carries the ng's. Fortunately, Earthlink still does and has for a long time. There are other several other ways to subscribe to ng's and access usenet, but I've never tried them. |
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Google is fine in you know your question. If the question is not on point neither will be the response. More important to me is how a usenet query can point out possible relationships that an individual may not think of. I think of usenet as a collective mind and goggle as a library tool. Both useful. Bill who also likes the human condition that usenet affords a glimpse of. -- S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade http://www.ocutech.com/ High tech Vison aid |
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