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Anyone know of a vine I could plant and train on a
wire(s) that has pretty flowers, thorns and grows
very fast and might discourage deer and children
from entering an area? - Zone 6
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Anyone know of a vine I could plant and train on a
wire(s) that has pretty flowers, thorns and grows
very fast and might discourage deer and children
from entering an area? - Zone 6



All sorts of climbing roses would do the trick. But, if you don't want to
deal with the silly amount of care some roses need, you could achieve the
same purpose using barberry, will will not only stop children, but kill and
eat them. It will do the same for dogs.

Some people say deer will jump over a 6 ft barrier. If that's true, you'll
need to grow the barberry higher. Keeping those bushes trimmed will be
interesting, sort of like a combination of 3rd degree burns and brain
cancer. But, given a tall ladder, thick denim clothing, leather gloves, and
a tarp for catching the trimmings, it can be done.


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Anyone know of a vine I could plant and train on a
wire(s) that has pretty flowers, thorns and grows
very fast and might discourage deer and children
from entering an area? - Zone 6
What about trying to plant a pyracantha? I don't know if this is a vine but it will grow quickly, has lovely berries and has lots of thorns.
Good luck, Lorr.
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 19:01:06 -0400, "Paul E. Lehmann"
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Anyone know of a vine I could plant and train on a
wire(s) that has pretty flowers, thorns and grows
very fast and might discourage deer and children
from entering an area? - Zone 6


Many antique roses suit this purpose well. Here is a link to a
particularly thorny rose which doesn' thave a lot of problems if
provided with cool roots and mulch preventing splashing soil up on
the undersides of the foliage:

http://www.roseinfo.com/sombreuil.html

I have this rose and occasionally my husband comes in cursing it! He
gets grabbed now and then.



Damn you. You've just reminded me of something else I needed to spend money
on. :-)


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"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in message
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Anyone know of a vine I could plant and train on a
wire(s) that has pretty flowers, thorns and grows
very fast and might discourage deer and children
from entering an area? - Zone 6


You could grow a hedge of rosa rugosa. Very hardy. Spreads rapidly. No one
will dare trying to go thru it. Extremely fragrant flowers. Beautiful red
rose hips in the fall. Downside: attracts Japanese beetles.

-alan sung
Hopkinton, MA (Zone 6a)



How tall can they grow?




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"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in message
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Anyone know of a vine I could plant and train on a
wire(s) that has pretty flowers, thorns and grows
very fast and might discourage deer and children
from entering an area? - Zone 6


You could grow a hedge of rosa rugosa. Very hardy. Spreads rapidly. No one
will dare trying to go thru it. Extremely fragrant flowers. Beautiful red
rose hips in the fall. Downside: attracts Japanese beetles.

-alan sung
Hopkinton, MA (Zone 6a)


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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

"Alan Sung" wrote in message
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"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in message
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Anyone know of a vine I could plant and train on a
wire(s) that has pretty flowers, thorns and grows
very fast and might discourage deer and children
from entering an area? - Zone 6


You could grow a hedge of rosa rugosa. Very hardy. Spreads rapidly. No one
will dare trying to go thru it. Extremely fragrant flowers. Beautiful red
rose hips in the fall. Downside: attracts Japanese beetles.

-alan sung
Hopkinton, MA (Zone 6a)



How tall can they grow?


Hmmm....

It is not a vine however a "Paul's Scarlet Hawthorn" tree is a real
nasty evil tree. I have one in my yard, I plan on shredding it sometime
soon. Easy growing and cheap $20, I found one at a LOWES hardware store.

The thorns are horrible. The thorns are long 2-5" with sharp
barbs that easily breaks off. My neighbor has this tree also and a thorn
when straight through his boot and the tip broke off into his foot. Had
to goto the hospital to have the barb removed from his foot. Also, the
thorns has flatten the tires to his large class "A" farm tractor. Again
a nasty evil tree, slow growing though.

For a nasty non thorny vine, how about poison ivy

Enjoy Life ... Dan

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I have 3 well-established Don Juan rose bushes (beautiful deep red
color, ever-blooming and nice fragrance) on a 12' trellis in full sun.
The thorns help keep the kids from climbing on the trellis.
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How tall can they grow?


Mine are staying in the 5-6 ft range. It can be pruned to be lower.

-al sung


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