I'm thinking about using milky spores for grub control in a lawn I seeded last
year. I don't have any problems now, but multiple people in the neighborhood
have lost their entire lawns to grubs. My current plan is to use Bayer with
Merit until I get the milky spore disease established. A couple of questions:

1) On a couple of milky spore websites, they say that it'll take 3-5 years to
get the milky spore disease established in New England (colder climates). How
can you tell when it's "established" and it's safe to stop applying it?

2) Has anyone else in New Hampshire had any experiences (good or bad) they'd
like to share?

Thanks!

I'm about 20 miles north of Boston and all I can say is that it won't hurt
to put down the milky spore. For some reason I think that the spore may not
survive the winter where we are?? Maybe, but not sure.

Good luck
LeeAnne
-i know I have grubs because I can see the holes the skunks dig to get them
out -mmmm grubs :-)
"Tim" wrote in message
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I'm thinking about using milky spores for grub control in a lawn I seeded
last
year. I don't have any problems now, but multiple people in the
neighborhood
have lost their entire lawns to grubs. My current plan is to use Bayer
with
Merit until I get the milky spore disease established. A couple of
questions:

1) On a couple of milky spore websites, they say that it'll take 3-5 years
to
get the milky spore disease established in New England (colder climates).
How
can you tell when it's "established" and it's safe to stop applying it?

2) Has anyone else in New Hampshire had any experiences (good or bad)
they'd
like to share?

Thanks!

OH YEAH.. bacteria survive cold very well. and if the host survives, the microbe
will. Ingrid

"LeeAnne" wrote:

I'm about 20 miles north of Boston and all I can say is that it won't hurt
to put down the milky spore. For some reason I think that the spore may not
survive the winter where we are?? Maybe, but not sure.


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On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 14:14:10 GMT, wrote:

OH YEAH.. bacteria survive cold very well. and if the host survives, the microbe
will. Ingrid

I am in Southern NH and inoculated with milky spore three years ago.
No japanese beetle grubs in my yard since then.

While this past winter seemed a bit severe (really normal, but long)
there was not much frost in the ground. The snow in December stayed
and insulated the ground from the severe cold spells that we had. I
am confident that the spores are still there and hungry.

John


"LeeAnne" wrote:

I'm about 20 miles north of Boston and all I can say is that it won't hurt
to put down the milky spore. For some reason I think that the spore may not
survive the winter where we are?? Maybe, but not sure.


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List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

So does this mean if I kill all the grubs, the milky spores will die as well?
I've seen websites that claim it'll last 15-20 years, could this be true?

Thanks again,
Tim

OH YEAH.. bacteria survive cold very well. and if the host survives, the microbe
will. Ingrid

dont know how long the milky spore stays active in the soil without going thru
replication cycle in grubs. the idea is there are always some grubs to replicate the
MS. Ingrid

(Tim) wrote:

So does this mean if I kill all the grubs, the milky spores will die as well?
I've seen websites that claim it'll last 15-20 years, could this be true?

Thanks again,
Tim

OH YEAH.. bacteria survive cold very well. and if the host survives, the microbe
will. Ingrid



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List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

I attended a talk about lawn care last week. One of the things that was mentioned
was milky spore and its effectiveness. The speaker said if works on Japanese
Beetle grubs, but there are more than one kind of grub and it is not effective on
them, so milky spore may be a waist of money.

JAB

Tim wrote:

I'm thinking about using milky spores for grub control in a lawn I seeded last
year. I don't have any problems now, but multiple people in the neighborhood
have lost their entire lawns to grubs. My current plan is to use Bayer with
Merit until I get the milky spore disease established. A couple of questions:

1) On a couple of milky spore websites, they say that it'll take 3-5 years to
get the milky spore disease established in New England (colder climates). How
can you tell when it's "established" and it's safe to stop applying it?

2) Has anyone else in New Hampshire had any experiences (good or bad) they'd
like to share?

Thanks!

On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 14:09:52 -0400, J Bertilson
wrote:

I attended a talk about lawn care last week. One of the things that was mentioned
was milky spore and its effectiveness. The speaker said if works on Japanese
Beetle grubs, but there are more than one kind of grub and it is not effective on
them, so milky spore may be a waist of money.


The speaker was correct but milky spore is not a waste of money IMHO.
The Japanese Beetle grub is one of the most destructive and is also a
favorite of moles which do even more damage. Since I inoculated with
milky spore I have had no mole problem. But, yes, there are other
grubs in my lawn - I just do not notice any significant damage from
them.

A plus is that destroying Japanese Beetle grubs eliminates the beetles
themselves. You will get beetles flying in from neighbors yards but
by the time they fly about they are only interested in reproducing
(that is why they are flying about) and do little munching.

JMHO


Tim wrote:

I'm thinking about using milky spores for grub control in a lawn I seeded last
year. I don't have any problems now, but multiple people in the neighborhood
have lost their entire lawns to grubs. My current plan is to use Bayer with
Merit until I get the milky spore disease established. A couple of questions:

1) On a couple of milky spore websites, they say that it'll take 3-5 years to
get the milky spore disease established in New England (colder climates). How
can you tell when it's "established" and it's safe to stop applying it?

2) Has anyone else in New Hampshire had any experiences (good or bad) they'd
like to share?

Thanks!

I'm not sure what Bayer w/Merit is (and to be honest I'm too lazy to go look
it up, lol) BUT if it is a pesticide then I'm one for voting against
applying it anywhere in your yard.

LeeAnne

"Tim" wrote in message
So maybe I shouldn't apply the Bayer w/ Merit as well as the milky spore?