Hi everyone, this is my first post here. So I'm sorry if my questions have been answered a million times before.

At the end of this month I'll be moving to Port Mulgrave. It's a tiny little place between Staiths and Runswick Bay. My new home is situated quite close to the edge of the cliffs with no wind break, what so ever.
I don't want to erect a wind break, either. It'll spoil the view for ourselves and the neighbours.
The garden its self is about one third of an acre but it also comes with a padock of about the same size. The garden has been landscaped with a beautiful large pond and a few small trees dotted about. The trees are maybe three feet high.
But I want to grow some fast growing trees and I was thinking of silver birch but I'm not sure how that will fair in the high winds. I have to say, I haven't seen any birch in that area. I don't know whether that is a clue to the success of such a species in that enviroment.
Also, does anyone know of a decent garden centre in that are? I'll be wanting plenty of advice soon, as I'm not a gardener. I'm a wonnabe.

Thanks in advance.
Stinker

On Apr 4, 6:29*am, stinker wrote:
Hi everyone, this is my first post here. So I'm sorry if my questions
have been answered a million times before.

At the end of this month I'll be moving to Port Mulgrave. It's a tiny
little place between Staiths and Runswick Bay. My new home is situated
quite close to the edge of the cliffs with no wind break, what so
ever.
I don't want to erect a wind break, either. It'll spoil the view for
ourselves and the neighbours.
The garden its self is about one third of an acre but it also comes
with a padock of about the same size. The garden has been landscaped
with a beautiful large pond and a few small trees dotted about. The
trees are maybe three feet high.
But I want to grow some fast growing trees and I was thinking of silver
birch but I'm not sure how that will fair in the high winds. I have to
say, I haven't seen any birch in that area. I don't know whether that
is a clue to the success of such a species in that enviroment.
Also, does anyone know of a decent garden centre in that are? I'll be
wanting plenty of advice soon, as I'm not a gardener. I'm a wonnabe.

Thanks in advance.
Stinker

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stinker

A couple of things........Port Mulgrave could be on the moon for all I
know, so something a bit more specific as to location would be
helpful. Since I looked it up, I found it's on the coast of Yorkshire
and photos of the area show a very open, somewhat rocky and windswept
promintory. While I'm no authority on the area by any means, that
would lead me to believe that establishing large, fast growing shade
trees would be problematic - if they could grow easily or well in that
type of situation, chances are they'd already be present. Birches of
all types are very prone to wind damage, so they'd not be on the top
of my list. I'd suggest you wait until you are settled there and ask
neighbors or view what DOES grow well in that location. There is also
a rec.gardens forum specifically addressed to those that reside in the
UK......you will likely get far better suggestion there.

And my last suggestion is that caution needs to be exercised when
considering "fast growing" trees - in general, trees that put on
growth quite rapidly also often have structural issues that make them
undesirable for very windy sites.

On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:29:14 +0100, stinker
wrote:

At the end of this month I'll be moving to Port Mulgrave. It's a tiny
little place between Staiths and Runswick Bay. My new home is situated
quite close to the edge of the cliffs with no wind break, what so
ever.
I don't want to erect a wind break, either. It'll spoil the view for
ourselves and the neighbours.
The garden its self is about one third of an acre but it also comes
with a padock of about the same size. The garden has been landscaped
with a beautiful large pond and a few small trees dotted about. The
trees are maybe three feet high.

Pretty place, but it doesn't look like the locals do much gardening.
http://www.nymcam.co.uk/010801.htm

It looks like you'll need to plant a lot of birch trees to produce any
appreciable wind break. I don't think you can do it on a third of an
acre http://www.forestry.gov.uk/forestry/infd-5nldxl Why not plant a
traditional British hedge? The BBC seems to have a comprehensive web
site. Have you looked there?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/today...in_index.shtml

But I want to grow some fast growing trees and I was thinking of silver
birch but I'm not sure how that will fair in the high winds. I have to
say, I haven't seen any birch in that area. I don't know whether that
is a clue to the success of such a species in that enviroment.
Also, does anyone know of a decent garden centre in that are? I'll be
wanting plenty of advice soon, as I'm not a gardener. I'm a wonnabe.

I would go to Google and use North York Moors gardens, gardening or
landscape as a search term. I'd also search for Images.

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I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:05:17 -0700 (PDT), gardengal
wrote:

On Apr 4, 6:29*am, stinker wrote:
Hi everyone, this is my first post here. So I'm sorry if my questions
have been answered a million times before.

At the end of this month I'll be moving to Port Mulgrave. It's a tiny
little place between Staiths and Runswick Bay. My new home is situated
quite close to the edge of the cliffs with no wind break, what so
ever.
snipped for brevity

A couple of things........Port Mulgrave could be on the moon for all I
know, so something a bit more specific as to location would be
helpful. Since I looked it up, I found it's on the coast of Yorkshire
and photos of the area show a very open, somewhat rocky and windswept
promintory.

snipped

If you noticed his @ you would have seen it's one of those online
forums that borrow usenet content to look like they are busy. He had
no idea he was asking the world. He thought he was speaking to fellow
Brits or at least people who had more of a clue than you or I did.

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I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Right, thanks for the replies...
I did add very local areas that are well known in the UK. And the web site I submit my question to has a dot co dot uk in the address. Which, in my experience gives the impression that I would be conversing with fellow Brits.
Top and bottom line... Am I going to face snotty attitude in here or am I better off in another forum? 'Cause I can do snotty, too. But I prefare nice chearful people.
But hey, if an unfriendly manner is your way?

On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 22:37:11 +0100, stinker
wrote:

Top and bottom line... Am I going to face snotty attitude in here or am
I better off in another forum? 'Cause I can do snotty, too. But I
prefare nice chearful people.

Bottom line... you're not really in the UK based forum you think
you're in. You're on Usenet.

But hey, if an unfriendly manner is your way?

Sorry if you took it as being unfriendly. It's a wild world out here
in Usenet and although curt, the reply was far from snotty.


--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Apr 4, 2:37*pm, stinker wrote:
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;836967']On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:05:17 -0700 (PDT), gardengal
wrote:
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On Apr 4, 6:29*am, stinker wrote:-
Hi everyone, this is my first post here. So I'm sorry if my questions
have been answered a million times before.

At the end of this month I'll be moving to Port Mulgrave. It's a tiny
little place between Staiths and Runswick Bay. My new home is
situated
quite close to the edge of the cliffs with no wind break, what so
ever.--
snipped for brevity-

A couple of things........Port Mulgrave could be on the moon for all I
know, so something a bit more specific as to location would be
helpful. Since I looked it up, I found it's on the coast of Yorkshire
and photos of the area show a very open, somewhat rocky and windswept
promintory. -

snipped

If you noticed his @ you would have seen it's one of those online
forums that borrow usenet content to look like they are busy. *He had
no idea he was asking the world. *He thought he was speaking to fellow
Brits or at least people who had more of a clue than you or I did.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Right, thanks for the replies...
I did add very local areas that are well known in the UK. And the web
site I submit my question to has a dot co dot uk in the address. Which,
in my experience gives the impression that I would be conversing with
fellow Brits.
Top and bottom line... Am I going to face snotty attitude in here or am
I better off in another forum? 'Cause I can do snotty, too. But I
prefare nice chearful people.
But hey, if an unfriendly manner is your way?

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stinker- Hide quoted text -

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Sorry...the response was not intended to be snotty. Although I used to
participate on this newsgroup extensively, I've been away for a few
years and things have changed. There used to be an associated group
that focused on gardening in the UK but apparently that has been
incorporated into gardenbanter and any posts are now distributed to a
worldwide audience. Where you are located specifically is paramount
for any helpful advice.

I still believe you will get much more meaningful suggestions from
those who garden in a similar location and under smiliar conditions.
I'd try he
http://www.uk.gardenweb.com/

And do take all responses with a grain of salt :-) The Internet is a
valuable resource but newsgroups and forums lack the type of personal
interaction that allows one to accurately assess and interpret written
intent and meaning - one misses facial expressions and body language
that indicate emotion. They're hard to replicate with computer icons
and punctuation smiley faces. So what you may consider 'snotty' is
more often than not just a brief /blunt presentation of facts or
opinion.