Well, the s.o. and I walked the grounds today.... everything looks fairly good, except
something destroyed half the tulip bed yesterday night.

She decided my next project is to build a deer protection fence to protect a line of
shrubs from the critters.

About 20 - 25 feet long, 4 feet wide 4 feet high type of cage (rectangle)
Needs to be about 6" off the ground to allow space for cutting small areas of grass,
clippers or string trimmer... doesn't matter which.
Temporary- will only be there for 2 - 3 years to allow plants to establish themselves.
Discreet - something the neighbors will not notice ( ha - if THATS possible).
Inexpensive -

A fence which is not a fence to protect a line of shrubs from persistent deer. The
homeowners association goes into a frenzied panic with even a garden plot... they'll
go totally beserk with any type of permanent structure.

I'm thinking those green posts with chicken wire. Perhaps even the green plastic fencing
with the more solid mesh.

Any other fencing material that might be considered. Its gotta be a physical barrier...
all the other stuff has been tried.

Thanks !!

Peter

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 11:31:33 -0400, wrote:


Well, the s.o. and I walked the grounds today.... everything looks fairly good, except
something destroyed half the tulip bed yesterday night.

She decided my next project is to build a deer protection fence to protect a line of
shrubs from the critters.

About 20 - 25 feet long, 4 feet wide 4 feet high type of cage (rectangle)
Needs to be about 6" off the ground to allow space for cutting small areas of grass,
clippers or string trimmer... doesn't matter which.
Temporary- will only be there for 2 - 3 years to allow plants to establish themselves.
Discreet - something the neighbors will not notice ( ha - if THATS possible).
Inexpensive -

A fence which is not a fence to protect a line of shrubs from persistent deer. The
homeowners association goes into a frenzied panic with even a garden plot... they'll
go totally beserk with any type of permanent structure.

I'm thinking those green posts with chicken wire. Perhaps even the green plastic fencing
with the more solid mesh.

Any other fencing material that might be considered. Its gotta be a physical barrier...
all the other stuff has been tried.

Thanks !!

Peter


I protect young plants, then remove the protection after a few years.
Most of the plantings are destroyed, but the ones that remain are
fairly deer resistant. At one time I had 16 azaleas, now only three
are left. I am about to remove chicken wire that protects
established winter jasmine as it is growing out of its cage. If it
gets eaten so be it. I'll replace it with rue.

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About 20 - 25 feet long, 4 feet wide 4 feet high type of cage
(rectangle)
Needs to be about 6" off the ground to allow space for cutting small areas
of grass,
clippers or string trimmer... doesn't matter which.
Temporary- will only be there for 2 - 3 years to allow plants to
establish themselves.
Discreet - something the neighbors will not notice ( ha - if THATS
possible).
Inexpensive -

You will not keep out deer with a four foot high fence, or a six foot high
fence and if they are really hungry or determined an eight foot won't work
very well either unless they are crippled or three legged deer. Two 4 ft
fences will work however IF you put them in 4 feet apart. Sort of a double
fence, one inside the other running parallel. I used the double fence when
living in Montana and never had deer get into my vegetable garden. They
can't make the double bounce to get into the fenced area. They can jump high
or wide but won't do both. Deer are also notorious for going under fences. I
don't know where you live but that 6 inch gap at the bottom would allow some
deer without antlers to belly under as well. Better make it 4 inches. Only
leaving a fence up till things are established probably won't work. Deer
will eat established plants just as well as the young plants and it won't
take them long to figure out the fence is no longer there. I left the inside
gate standing open one night and that's all it took for them to discover my
error and hop the outside gate and into my garden and my gates were only 24
inches wide.

You might look into the motion activated sprinklers as a deer deterrent. I
keep reading they work pretty well. Hanging soap, chemical and organic
sprays or urine of any species don't really work all that well if at all. A
neighbor actually order lion dung from a zoo. It turned out to be a
reasonably good source of fertilizer and gave the town something to guffaw
at for months.

Or you could fence your property and keep a couple of yapping, barking dogs
to do sentry duty. The neighbors would LOVE that!

Val

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Well, the s.o. and I walked the grounds today.... everything looks fairly
good, except
something destroyed half the tulip bed yesterday night.

She decided my next project is to build a deer protection fence to protect
a line of
shrubs from the critters.

About 20 - 25 feet long, 4 feet wide 4 feet high type of cage
(rectangle)
Needs to be about 6" off the ground to allow space for cutting small areas
of grass,
clippers or string trimmer... doesn't matter which.
Temporary- will only be there for 2 - 3 years to allow plants to
establish themselves.
Discreet - something the neighbors will not notice ( ha - if THATS
possible).
Inexpensive -

A fence which is not a fence to protect a line of shrubs from persistent
deer. The
homeowners association goes into a frenzied panic with even a garden
plot... they'll
go totally beserk with any type of permanent structure.

I'm thinking those green posts with chicken wire. Perhaps even the green
plastic fencing
with the more solid mesh.

Any other fencing material that might be considered. Its gotta be a
physical barrier...
all the other stuff has been tried.

Thanks !!

Peter


A 4 foot fence won't work. You'll actually hear deer laughing at it at
night. 6 feet didn't work for me, either, until I set up a cold frame,
tomato cages and bean poles. I think all the structures made them nervous
about not having a clear place to land. So far, it's worked for two years. I
also placed chunks of Irish Spring bar soap in socks hung on the fence. A
friend recommended it after having success with it around some young trees
which the deer had previously mauled.

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Well, the s.o. and I walked the grounds today.... everything looks fairly
good, except
something destroyed half the tulip bed yesterday night.

She decided my next project is to build a deer protection fence to protect
a line of
shrubs from the critters.

About 20 - 25 feet long, 4 feet wide 4 feet high type of cage
(rectangle)
Needs to be about 6" off the ground to allow space for cutting small areas
of grass,
clippers or string trimmer... doesn't matter which.
Temporary- will only be there for 2 - 3 years to allow plants to
establish themselves.
Discreet - something the neighbors will not notice ( ha - if THATS
possible).
Inexpensive -

A fence which is not a fence to protect a line of shrubs from persistent
deer. The
homeowners association goes into a frenzied panic with even a garden
plot... they'll
go totally beserk with any type of permanent structure.

I'm thinking those green posts with chicken wire. Perhaps even the green
plastic fencing
with the more solid mesh.

Any other fencing material that might be considered. Its gotta be a
physical barrier...
all the other stuff has been tried.

Thanks !!

Peter


By the way, keeping deer away from tulips is about as easy as keeping
teenagers away from pizza. I gave up. They won't touch daffodils, though,
based on my experience.

wrote

Well, the s.o. and I walked the grounds today.... everything looks fairly
good, except
something destroyed half the tulip bed yesterday night.


Rabbits love tulips, especially the stems, I've watched them slurp down
those hollow stems like they're ****ghetti.

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Well, the s.o. and I walked the grounds today.... everything looks
fairly good, except
something destroyed half the tulip bed yesterday night.

She decided my next project is to build a deer protection fence to
protect a line of
shrubs from the critters.

About 20 - 25 feet long, 4 feet wide 4 feet high type of cage
(rectangle)
Needs to be about 6" off the ground to allow space for cutting small
areas of grass,
clippers or string trimmer... doesn't matter which.
Temporary- will only be there for 2 - 3 years to allow plants to
establish themselves.
Discreet - something the neighbors will not notice ( ha - if THATS
possible).
Inexpensive -

A fence which is not a fence to protect a line of shrubs from persistent
deer. The
homeowners association goes into a frenzied panic with even a garden
plot... they'll
go totally beserk with any type of permanent structure.

I'm thinking those green posts with chicken wire. Perhaps even the
green plastic fencing
with the more solid mesh.

Any other fencing material that might be considered. Its gotta be a
physical barrier...
all the other stuff has been tried.

Thanks !!

Peter


By the way, keeping deer away from tulips is about as easy as keeping
teenagers away from pizza. I gave up. They won't touch daffodils, though,
based on my experience.

I have all the beds around my house protected from deer with 5' turkey wire.
At first the galvanize is shiny so it's noticeable but after a few months it
turns dull grey and blends right in to the landscape. From inside my house
it's just low enough that I don't see it through my windows unless I get up
close.

Here you can see how neatly the deer edge my blue rug juniper, one less
chore for me:
http://i44.tinypic.com/2jequqs.jpg

Deer won't leap into an enclosed space, they ain't stupid, they know they
need plenty of space to get up to speed before they can jump very high...
deer are much better at leaping long distances than they are at reaching
great heights... deer are built for covering distance quickly, not for
leaping heights. Folks who claim they've seen deer leap over eight foot
tall barriers are confusing deer with horses. My vegetable garden fence is
six feet, no deer has been in there in six years I have that fence... they
nibble whatever pokes out through the fence but they haven't gotten inside.

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Well, the s.o. and I walked the grounds today.... everything looks
fairly good, except
something destroyed half the tulip bed yesterday night.

She decided my next project is to build a deer protection fence to
protect a line of
shrubs from the critters.

About 20 - 25 feet long, 4 feet wide 4 feet high type of cage
(rectangle)
Needs to be about 6" off the ground to allow space for cutting small
areas of grass,
clippers or string trimmer... doesn't matter which.
Temporary- will only be there for 2 - 3 years to allow plants to
establish themselves.
Discreet - something the neighbors will not notice ( ha - if THATS
possible).
Inexpensive -

A fence which is not a fence to protect a line of shrubs from persistent
deer. The
homeowners association goes into a frenzied panic with even a garden
plot... they'll
go totally beserk with any type of permanent structure.

I'm thinking those green posts with chicken wire. Perhaps even the
green plastic fencing
with the more solid mesh.

Any other fencing material that might be considered. Its gotta be a
physical barrier...
all the other stuff has been tried.

Thanks !!

Peter


By the way, keeping deer away from tulips is about as easy as keeping
teenagers away from pizza. I gave up. They won't touch daffodils, though,
based on my experience.

I have all the beds around my house protected from deer with 5' turkey
wire. At first the galvanize is shiny so it's noticeable but after a few
months it turns dull grey and blends right in to the landscape. From
inside my house it's just low enough that I don't see it through my
windows unless I get up close.

Here you can see how neatly the deer edge my blue rug juniper, one less
chore for me:
http://i44.tinypic.com/2jequqs.jpg

Deer won't leap into an enclosed space, they ain't stupid, they know they
need plenty of space to get up to speed before they can jump very high...
deer are much better at leaping long distances than they are at reaching
great heights... deer are built for covering distance quickly, not for
leaping heights. Folks who claim they've seen deer leap over eight foot
tall barriers are confusing deer with horses. My vegetable garden fence
is six feet, no deer has been in there in six years I have that fence...
they nibble whatever pokes out through the fence but they haven't gotten
inside.


Two of them jumped into mine, and the top of the fence is exactly 6 feet
high.

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"brooklyn1" wrote in message
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Well, the s.o. and I walked the grounds today.... everything looks
fairly good, except
something destroyed half the tulip bed yesterday night.

She decided my next project is to build a deer protection fence to
protect a line of
shrubs from the critters.

About 20 - 25 feet long, 4 feet wide 4 feet high type of cage
(rectangle)
Needs to be about 6" off the ground to allow space for cutting small
areas of grass,
clippers or string trimmer... doesn't matter which.
Temporary- will only be there for 2 - 3 years to allow plants to
establish themselves.
Discreet - something the neighbors will not notice ( ha - if THATS
possible).
Inexpensive -

A fence which is not a fence to protect a line of shrubs from
persistent deer. The
homeowners association goes into a frenzied panic with even a garden
plot... they'll
go totally beserk with any type of permanent structure.

I'm thinking those green posts with chicken wire. Perhaps even the
green plastic fencing
with the more solid mesh.

Any other fencing material that might be considered. Its gotta be a
physical barrier...
all the other stuff has been tried.

Thanks !!

Peter


By the way, keeping deer away from tulips is about as easy as keeping
teenagers away from pizza. I gave up. They won't touch daffodils,
though, based on my experience.

I have all the beds around my house protected from deer with 5' turkey
wire. At first the galvanize is shiny so it's noticeable but after a few
months it turns dull grey and blends right in to the landscape. From
inside my house it's just low enough that I don't see it through my
windows unless I get up close.

Here you can see how neatly the deer edge my blue rug juniper, one less
chore for me:
http://i44.tinypic.com/2jequqs.jpg

Deer won't leap into an enclosed space, they ain't stupid, they know they
need plenty of space to get up to speed before they can jump very high...
deer are much better at leaping long distances than they are at reaching
great heights... deer are built for covering distance quickly, not for
leaping heights. Folks who claim they've seen deer leap over eight foot
tall barriers are confusing deer with horses. My vegetable garden fence
is six feet, no deer has been in there in six years I have that fence...
they nibble whatever pokes out through the fence but they haven't gotten
inside.


Two of them jumped into mine, and the top of the fence is exactly 6 feet
high.

How do you know there were only two... do you stand guard 24/7? And you
didn't take pictures for court... you could've sued.

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Well, the s.o. and I walked the grounds today.... everything looks
fairly good, except
something destroyed half the tulip bed yesterday night.

She decided my next project is to build a deer protection fence to
protect a line of
shrubs from the critters.

About 20 - 25 feet long, 4 feet wide 4 feet high type of cage
(rectangle)
Needs to be about 6" off the ground to allow space for cutting small
areas of grass,
clippers or string trimmer... doesn't matter which.
Temporary- will only be there for 2 - 3 years to allow plants to
establish themselves.
Discreet - something the neighbors will not notice ( ha - if THATS
possible).
Inexpensive -

A fence which is not a fence to protect a line of shrubs from
persistent deer. The
homeowners association goes into a frenzied panic with even a garden
plot... they'll
go totally beserk with any type of permanent structure.

I'm thinking those green posts with chicken wire. Perhaps even the
green plastic fencing
with the more solid mesh.

Any other fencing material that might be considered. Its gotta be a
physical barrier...
all the other stuff has been tried.

Thanks !!

Peter


By the way, keeping deer away from tulips is about as easy as keeping
teenagers away from pizza. I gave up. They won't touch daffodils,
though, based on my experience.

I have all the beds around my house protected from deer with 5' turkey
wire. At first the galvanize is shiny so it's noticeable but after a few
months it turns dull grey and blends right in to the landscape. From
inside my house it's just low enough that I don't see it through my
windows unless I get up close.

Here you can see how neatly the deer edge my blue rug juniper, one less
chore for me:
http://i44.tinypic.com/2jequqs.jpg

Deer won't leap into an enclosed space, they ain't stupid, they know
they need plenty of space to get up to speed before they can jump very
high... deer are much better at leaping long distances than they are at
reaching great heights... deer are built for covering distance quickly,
not for leaping heights. Folks who claim they've seen deer leap over
eight foot tall barriers are confusing deer with horses. My vegetable
garden fence is six feet, no deer has been in there in six years I have
that fence... they nibble whatever pokes out through the fence but they
haven't gotten inside.


Two of them jumped into mine, and the top of the fence is exactly 6 feet
high.

How do you know there were only two... do you stand guard 24/7? And you
didn't take pictures for court... you could've sued.


I pulled into the driveway at 2:00 AM and saw them inside the fence. They
stood there and looked at me with that "Youse got a problem?" look they have
around here. Then, they leapt back over the fence. These were some big mofo
deer, too.

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Well, the s.o. and I walked the grounds today.... everything looks fairly
good, except
something destroyed half the tulip bed yesterday night.

She decided my next project is to build a deer protection fence to protect
a line of
shrubs from the critters.

About 20 - 25 feet long, 4 feet wide 4 feet high type of cage
(rectangle)
Needs to be about 6" off the ground to allow space for cutting small areas
of grass,
clippers or string trimmer... doesn't matter which.
Temporary- will only be there for 2 - 3 years to allow plants to
establish themselves.
Discreet - something the neighbors will not notice ( ha - if THATS
possible).
Inexpensive -

A fence which is not a fence to protect a line of shrubs from persistent
deer. The
homeowners association goes into a frenzied panic with even a garden
plot... they'll
go totally beserk with any type of permanent structure.

I'm thinking those green posts with chicken wire. Perhaps even the green
plastic fencing
with the more solid mesh.

Any other fencing material that might be considered. Its gotta be a
physical barrier...
all the other stuff has been tried.

Thanks !!

Peter

One consistent observation I see roadside in the wee hours when I go to work
in this rural area, white-tailed deer may be standing immediately next to a
standard 4' high barbed wire pasture fence. They simply jump over the fence
without any forward movement prior to that. Fawns easily go under or though
such fences.
--
Dave

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 11:31:33 -0400, wrote:


Well, the s.o. and I walked the grounds today.... everything looks fairly good, except
something destroyed half the tulip bed yesterday night.

She decided my next project is to build a deer protection fence to protect a line of
shrubs from the critters.

About 20 - 25 feet long, 4 feet wide 4 feet high type of cage (rectangle)
Needs to be about 6" off the ground to allow space for cutting small areas of grass,
clippers or string trimmer... doesn't matter which.
Temporary- will only be there for 2 - 3 years to allow plants to establish themselves.
Discreet - something the neighbors will not notice ( ha - if THATS possible).
Inexpensive -

A fence which is not a fence to protect a line of shrubs from persistent deer. The
homeowners association goes into a frenzied panic with even a garden plot... they'll
go totally beserk with any type of permanent structure.

I'm thinking those green posts with chicken wire. Perhaps even the green plastic fencing
with the more solid mesh.

Any other fencing material that might be considered. Its gotta be a physical barrier...
all the other stuff has been tried.

Thanks !!

Peter


Thanks all, for the suggestions and recommendations....

Okay, I need to simplify just a little... as noted in the original posting the fence
will be in the shape of a rectangle 25 foot long x 4 foot across. Shallow enough
so that any bounding deer will probably bound right over it, unless they are skilled
high divers.... or another deer holds them by the ankles and dips them into
the enclosure...... 25 foot long as I'm enclosing a row of shrubs instead of
caging them individually.

If it were me I wouldn't want anyone to hold me by the ankles and dip me, but
heck maybe deer are different).

So 4 foot from one edge of fence to the other side..

Val presented a good point.... they can probably get under a 6" fence... it'll be
lowered to 4" above ground... gotta have some space to get a trimmer in there.

This is for euonymous 'manhattan'. There is already another hedge about
8' tall growing elsewhere on the property... Browseline is only about 5 foot
during winter. The bushes handle the stress fairly well and regrow every year. I'm
hoping to duplicate the hedge in another area.

The fence is temporary, to protect younger plants until they get established. Thus
a 4' height.... (it's a trade off for temporary purposes)

turkey wire or chicken wire sounds good. I'm hesitant to stand on a ladder
driving 7' green posts into the ground using a sledge...... are there 3' green metal
fence posts that extensions can be bolted onto ???

Thought about using lumber and stapling the wire mesh, but 2 x 2's are kinda
expensive at Home Depot... is this what is commonly used in gardens or
is there a "garden' variety lumber used for temporary fencing. ???

Hope this clarifies things a little....

Peter

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On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 11:31:33 -0400, wrote:


Well, the s.o. and I walked the grounds today.... everything looks fairly
good, except
something destroyed half the tulip bed yesterday night.

She decided my next project is to build a deer protection fence to protect
a line of
shrubs from the critters.

About 20 - 25 feet long, 4 feet wide 4 feet high type of cage
(rectangle)
Needs to be about 6" off the ground to allow space for cutting small areas
of grass,
clippers or string trimmer... doesn't matter which.
Temporary- will only be there for 2 - 3 years to allow plants to
establish themselves.
Discreet - something the neighbors will not notice ( ha - if THATS
possible).
Inexpensive -

A fence which is not a fence to protect a line of shrubs from persistent
deer. The
homeowners association goes into a frenzied panic with even a garden
plot... they'll
go totally beserk with any type of permanent structure.

I'm thinking those green posts with chicken wire. Perhaps even the green
plastic fencing
with the more solid mesh.

Any other fencing material that might be considered. Its gotta be a
physical barrier...
all the other stuff has been tried.

Thanks !!

Peter


Thanks all, for the suggestions and recommendations....

Okay, I need to simplify just a little... as noted in the original
posting the fence
will be in the shape of a rectangle 25 foot long x 4 foot across.
Shallow enough
so that any bounding deer will probably bound right over it, unless they
are skilled
high divers.... or another deer holds them by the ankles and dips them
into
the enclosure...... 25 foot long as I'm enclosing a row of shrubs instead
of
caging them individually.

If it were me I wouldn't want anyone to hold me by the ankles and dip me,
but
heck maybe deer are different).

So 4 foot from one edge of fence to the other side..

Val presented a good point.... they can probably get under a 6" fence...
it'll be
lowered to 4" above ground... gotta have some space to get a trimmer in
there.

This is for euonymous 'manhattan'. There is already another hedge about
8' tall growing elsewhere on the property... Browseline is only about 5
foot
during winter. The bushes handle the stress fairly well and regrow every
year. I'm
hoping to duplicate the hedge in another area.

The fence is temporary, to protect younger plants until they get
established. Thus
a 4' height.... (it's a trade off for temporary purposes)

turkey wire or chicken wire sounds good. I'm hesitant to stand on a
ladder
driving 7' green posts into the ground using a sledge...... are there
3' green metal
fence posts that extensions can be bolted onto ???

Thought about using lumber and stapling the wire mesh, but 2 x 2's are
kinda
expensive at Home Depot... is this what is commonly used in gardens or
is there a "garden' variety lumber used for temporary fencing. ???

Hope this clarifies things a little....

Peter


Use the metal stakes made for the purpose. Not cheap, but you'll probably
find uses for them over the years. Use electrical wire ties to hold the mesh
in place.

The deer will get over the 4' fence without even touching it. Not sure why
you have an aversion to using 6' fence, which is more likely to work. Do you
like wasting money?

On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:17:00 -0400, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

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On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 11:31:33 -0400, wrote:


Well, the s.o. and I walked the grounds today.... everything looks fairly
good, except
something destroyed half the tulip bed yesterday night.

She decided my next project is to build a deer protection fence to protect
a line of
shrubs from the critters.

About 20 - 25 feet long, 4 feet wide 4 feet high type of cage
(rectangle)
Needs to be about 6" off the ground to allow space for cutting small areas
of grass,
clippers or string trimmer... doesn't matter which.
Temporary- will only be there for 2 - 3 years to allow plants to
establish themselves.
Discreet - something the neighbors will not notice ( ha - if THATS
possible).
Inexpensive -

A fence which is not a fence to protect a line of shrubs from persistent
deer. The
homeowners association goes into a frenzied panic with even a garden
plot... they'll
go totally beserk with any type of permanent structure.

I'm thinking those green posts with chicken wire. Perhaps even the green
plastic fencing
with the more solid mesh.

Any other fencing material that might be considered. Its gotta be a
physical barrier...
all the other stuff has been tried.

Thanks !!

Peter


Thanks all, for the suggestions and recommendations....

Okay, I need to simplify just a little... as noted in the original
posting the fence
will be in the shape of a rectangle 25 foot long x 4 foot across.
Shallow enough
so that any bounding deer will probably bound right over it, unless they
are skilled
high divers.... or another deer holds them by the ankles and dips them
into
the enclosure...... 25 foot long as I'm enclosing a row of shrubs instead
of
caging them individually.

If it were me I wouldn't want anyone to hold me by the ankles and dip me,
but
heck maybe deer are different).

So 4 foot from one edge of fence to the other side..

Val presented a good point.... they can probably get under a 6" fence...
it'll be
lowered to 4" above ground... gotta have some space to get a trimmer in
there.

This is for euonymous 'manhattan'. There is already another hedge about
8' tall growing elsewhere on the property... Browseline is only about 5
foot
during winter. The bushes handle the stress fairly well and regrow every
year. I'm
hoping to duplicate the hedge in another area.

The fence is temporary, to protect younger plants until they get
established. Thus
a 4' height.... (it's a trade off for temporary purposes)

turkey wire or chicken wire sounds good. I'm hesitant to stand on a
ladder
driving 7' green posts into the ground using a sledge...... are there
3' green metal
fence posts that extensions can be bolted onto ???

Thought about using lumber and stapling the wire mesh, but 2 x 2's are
kinda
expensive at Home Depot... is this what is commonly used in gardens or
is there a "garden' variety lumber used for temporary fencing. ???

Hope this clarifies things a little....

Peter


Use the metal stakes made for the purpose. Not cheap, but you'll probably
find uses for them over the years. Use electrical wire ties to hold the mesh
in place.

The deer will get over the 4' fence without even touching it. Not sure why
you have an aversion to using 6' fence, which is more likely to work. Do you
like wasting money?


The height of the fence is based upon local availability of material.

The stores I've checked so far seem to have 6' post... 24 inches in the ground
and 48" above... with rolls of 48" chicken wire.. thus 48" high.

If you did a 6' fence... what length metal posts and how to drive them into the ground
without swinging a sledge while standing on a ladder. (no pickup truck either).

I haven't seen any combo base post and extensions.... ie. 3' foot, drive 24" inches
into the ground and then use a 5' extension for the top portion. 6' post with a 2'
extension ?? Does something like this exist?? Using off the shelf materials
rather than cutting and drilling.

72" height chicken wire??

Peter

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On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 11:31:33 -0400, wrote:


Well, the s.o. and I walked the grounds today.... everything looks
fairly
good, except
something destroyed half the tulip bed yesterday night.

She decided my next project is to build a deer protection fence to
protect
a line of
shrubs from the critters.

About 20 - 25 feet long, 4 feet wide 4 feet high type of cage
(rectangle)
Needs to be about 6" off the ground to allow space for cutting small
areas
of grass,
clippers or string trimmer... doesn't matter which.
Temporary- will only be there for 2 - 3 years to allow plants to
establish themselves.
Discreet - something the neighbors will not notice ( ha - if THATS
possible).
Inexpensive -

A fence which is not a fence to protect a line of shrubs from persistent
deer. The
homeowners association goes into a frenzied panic with even a garden
plot... they'll
go totally beserk with any type of permanent structure.

I'm thinking those green posts with chicken wire. Perhaps even the
green
plastic fencing
with the more solid mesh.

Any other fencing material that might be considered. Its gotta be a
physical barrier...
all the other stuff has been tried.

Thanks !!

Peter


Thanks all, for the suggestions and recommendations....

Okay, I need to simplify just a little... as noted in the original
posting the fence
will be in the shape of a rectangle 25 foot long x 4 foot across.
Shallow enough
so that any bounding deer will probably bound right over it, unless they
are skilled
high divers.... or another deer holds them by the ankles and dips
them
into
the enclosure...... 25 foot long as I'm enclosing a row of shrubs
instead
of
caging them individually.

If it were me I wouldn't want anyone to hold me by the ankles and dip
me,
but
heck maybe deer are different).

So 4 foot from one edge of fence to the other side..

Val presented a good point.... they can probably get under a 6" fence...
it'll be
lowered to 4" above ground... gotta have some space to get a trimmer in
there.

This is for euonymous 'manhattan'. There is already another hedge
about
8' tall growing elsewhere on the property... Browseline is only about
5
foot
during winter. The bushes handle the stress fairly well and regrow
every
year. I'm
hoping to duplicate the hedge in another area.

The fence is temporary, to protect younger plants until they get
established. Thus
a 4' height.... (it's a trade off for temporary purposes)

turkey wire or chicken wire sounds good. I'm hesitant to stand on a
ladder
driving 7' green posts into the ground using a sledge...... are
there
3' green metal
fence posts that extensions can be bolted onto ???

Thought about using lumber and stapling the wire mesh, but 2 x 2's are
kinda
expensive at Home Depot... is this what is commonly used in gardens or
is there a "garden' variety lumber used for temporary fencing. ???

Hope this clarifies things a little....

Peter


Use the metal stakes made for the purpose. Not cheap, but you'll probably
find uses for them over the years. Use electrical wire ties to hold the
mesh
in place.

The deer will get over the 4' fence without even touching it. Not sure why
you have an aversion to using 6' fence, which is more likely to work. Do
you
like wasting money?


The height of the fence is based upon local availability of material.

The stores I've checked so far seem to have 6' post... 24 inches in the
ground
and 48" above... with rolls of 48" chicken wire.. thus 48" high.

If you did a 6' fence... what length metal posts and how to drive them
into the ground
without swinging a sledge while standing on a ladder. (no pickup truck
either).

I haven't seen any combo base post and extensions.... ie. 3' foot, drive
24" inches
into the ground and then use a 5' extension for the top portion. 6'
post with a 2'
extension ?? Does something like this exist?? Using off the shelf
materials
rather than cutting and drilling.

72" height chicken wire??

Peter




Where are you located?