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Off Topic Guns vs. Butter
See if you can identify the bleeding heart liberal who said this:
""Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children." Noam Chomsky? Michael Moore? Bernie Sanders? (Not from URL (Wild Billy? ) ) Nope, it was that unrepentant lefty, five-star general Dwight Eisenhower, in 1953, just a few months after taking office -- a time when the economy was booming and unemployment was 2.7 percent." From http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ariann...utter-2010_b_5 48620.html -- Bill Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA |
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Bill who putters wrote:
See if you can identify the bleeding heart liberal who said this: ""Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children." Noam Chomsky? Michael Moore? Bernie Sanders? (Not from URL (Wild Billy? ) ) Nope, it was that unrepentant lefty, five-star general Dwight Eisenhower, in 1953, just a few months after taking office -- a time when the economy was booming and unemployment was 2.7 percent." From http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ariann...utter-2010_b_5 48620.html For the Republican Party it has been a continuous push to the right extreme. John Paul Stevens was a lifelong republican, imagine that now? The former party of small government is now to pushing toward the Tea Party belief of no government. Arguably George W Bush did his best to break government and generally succeeded. Jeff |
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On 4/23/2010 8:05 AM, Bill who putters wrote:
See if you can identify the bleeding heart liberal who said this: ""Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children." Noam Chomsky? Michael Moore? Bernie Sanders? (Not from URL (Wild Billy? ) ) Nope, it was that unrepentant lefty, five-star general Dwight Eisenhower, in 1953, just a few months after taking office -- a time when the economy was booming and unemployment was 2.7 percent." From http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ariann...utter-2010_b_5 48620.html My thought when I read this was that lunch today was venison chili. The venison was culled with my Remington 1100, a shotgun that has supplied this household with lots of meals but no butter |
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"Bill who putters" wrote a whole load of crap that
is off topic. For Pete's sake will you shove your off topic posts up your left nostril and set them alight! I've already seem one other ng absolutely killed by off topic posts which turned the group from being a generalised discussion group for posters from aroudn the world to one about US politics and solely US politics. Either post about garden related topics of STFU. |
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On Apr 23, 5:46*pm, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Bill who putters" wrote a whole load of crap that is off topic. For Pete's sake will you shove your off topic posts up your left nostril and set them alight! I've already seem one other ng absolutely killed by off topic posts which turned the group from being a generalised discussion group for posters from aroudn the world to one about US politics and solely US politics. *Either post about garden related topics of STFU. Thank you for posting this. I absolutely agree. Emilie NorCal |
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I agree that this group should be on the subject of gardening! |
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: "Bill who putters" wrote a whole load of crap that is off topic. For Pete's sake will you shove your off topic posts up your left nostril and set them alight! I've already seem one other ng absolutely killed by off topic posts which turned the group from being a generalised discussion group for posters from aroudn the world to one about US politics and solely US politics. Either post about garden related topics of STFU. IWNSTFU Kill file me. -- Bill Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA |
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Bill who putters wrote: In article , "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: "Bill who putters" wrote a whole load of crap that is off topic. For Pete's sake will you shove your off topic posts up your left nostril and set them alight! I've already seem one other ng absolutely killed by off topic posts which turned the group from being a generalised discussion group for posters from aroudn the world to one about US politics and solely US politics. Either post about garden related topics of STFU. IWNSTFU Kill file me. I have yet seen a newsgroup that doesn't go Off Topic, or contend with trolls or spammers. Sometimes in our exuberance we become excessive, but it is because of things about which we feel passionately (not to say that I wouldn't KF Dr. Chung, if he shows up here). Both of you, FarmI and Emily, are highly respected in this group, and your pronouncements not lightly taken by myself. I'm sorry, if my continuing rage against our government, and its murderous policies disturbs you. On the other hand, we are individuals, each off whom plays our own little parts in celebrating and furthering gardening. All in all, I think that the good that we do, outweighs the bad. Thank you for the criticism, because I know you want to be part of something better. We all do. -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html |
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On Apr 23, 6:24*am, Jeff Thies wrote:
Bill who putters wrote: See if you can identify the bleeding heart liberal who said this: ""Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children." Noam Chomsky? Michael Moore? Bernie Sanders? * * (Not from URL (Wild Billy? ) ) Nope, it was that unrepentant lefty, five-star general Dwight Eisenhower, in 1953, just a few months after taking office -- a time when the economy was booming and unemployment was 2.7 percent." From * http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ariann...utter-2010_b_5 48620.html For the Republican Party it has been a continuous push to the right extreme. John Paul Stevens was a lifelong republican, imagine that now? * The former party of small government is now to pushing toward the Tea Party belief of no government. Arguably George W Bush did his best to break government and generally succeeded. Jeff That's hilarious! Bush presided over one of the hugest expansion of government in many administrations. Only he did it in the interests of his corporate masters, not of the people he swore to serve. |
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Higgs Boson wrote:
On Apr 23, 6:24 am, Jeff Thies wrote: Bill who putters wrote: See if you can identify the bleeding heart liberal who said this: ""Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children." Noam Chomsky? Michael Moore? Bernie Sanders? (Not from URL (Wild Billy? ) ) Nope, it was that unrepentant lefty, five-star general Dwight Eisenhower, in 1953, just a few months after taking office -- a time when the economy was booming and unemployment was 2.7 percent." From http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ariann...utter-2010_b_5 48620.html For the Republican Party it has been a continuous push to the right extreme. John Paul Stevens was a lifelong republican, imagine that now? The former party of small government is now to pushing toward the Tea Party belief of no government. Arguably George W Bush did his best to break government and generally succeeded. Jeff That's hilarious! Bush presided over one of the hugest expansion of government in many administrations. Broken government can be the most expensive kind! It doesn't cost less but it does less. Only he did it in the interests of his corporate masters, not of the people he swore to serve. Agreed. Jeff |
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To Anzac Day
.. . And the band played Waltzing Matilda As we sailed away from the quay . . -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html |
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"Bill who putters" wrote in message
... See if you can identify the bleeding heart liberal who said this: ""Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children." Noam Chomsky? Michael Moore? Bernie Sanders? (Not from URL (Wild Billy? ) ) Nope, it was that unrepentant lefty, five-star general Dwight Eisenhower, in 1953, just a few months after taking office -- a time when the economy was booming and unemployment was 2.7 percent." From http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ariann...utter-2010_b_5 48620.html -- Bill Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA Military-industrial complex From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia President Dwight Eisenhower famously warned the US about the "military-industrial complex" in his farewell address. Military-industrial complex (MIC) is a concept commonly used to refer to policy relationships between governments, national armed forces, and the industrial sector that supports them. These relationships include political approval for research, development, production, use, and support for military training, weapons, equipment, and facilities within the national defense and security policy. It is a type of iron triangle. The term is most often played in reference to the military of the United States, where it gained popularity after its use in the farewell address speech of President Dwight D. Eisenhower, though the term is applicable to any country with a similarly developed infrastructure. It is sometimes used more broadly to include the entire network of contracts and flows of money and resources among individuals as well as institutions of the defense contractors, The Pentagon, and the Congress and executive branch. This sector is intrinsically prone to principal-agent problem, moral hazard, and rent seeking. Cases of political corruption have also surfaced with regularity. A similar thesis was originally expressed by Daniel Guérin, in his 1936 book Fascism and Big Business, about the fascist government support to heavy industry. It can be defined as, "an informal and changing coalition of groups with vested psychological, moral, and material interests in the continuous development and maintenance of high levels of weaponry, in preservation of colonial markets and in military-strategic conceptions of internal affairs" [1] http://goo.gl/Ds4N All praise to Eisenhower, perhaps that ;ast sane president. piedmont / mike |
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"Billy" wrote in message
I have yet seen a newsgroup that doesn't go Off Topic, Going 'off topic' as a result of thread drift is one thing but deliberately posting something that is totally OT is quite another. It is not even as if any attempt was made to disguise the topic such as writing about perhaps shooting something in the garden and then weaving in comments that apply only to arcane US political speak. or contend with trolls or spammers. Sometimes in our exuberance we become excessive, but it is because of things about which we feel passionately (not to say that I wouldn't KF Dr. Chung, if he shows up here). Both of you, FarmI and Emily, are highly respected in this group, and your pronouncements not lightly taken by myself. I'm sorry, if my continuing rage against our government, and its murderous policies disturbs you. Don't you think that in an ng where the topic is gardening, that those of us who come here to read about gardening might be allowed to have a bit of freedom from American politics? Many posters here don't live in the US so it's OTT at the very least to foist such posting on us. On the other hand, we are individuals, each off whom plays our own little parts in celebrating and furthering gardening. All in all, I think that the good that we do, outweighs the bad. Thank you for the criticism, because I know you want to be part of something better. We all do. Which is why I garden. If I want to talk about politics or guns or other non gardening related issues, I do those in forums where that is the norm. |
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message ... "Billy" wrote in message I have yet seen a newsgroup that doesn't go Off Topic, Going 'off topic' as a result of thread drift is one thing but deliberately posting something that is totally OT is quite another. It is not even as if any attempt was made to disguise the topic such as writing about perhaps shooting something in the garden and then weaving in comments that apply only to arcane US political speak. or contend with trolls or spammers. Sometimes in our exuberance we become excessive, but it is because of things about which we feel passionately (not to say that I wouldn't KF Dr. Chung, if he shows up here). Both of you, FarmI and Emily, are highly respected in this group, and your pronouncements not lightly taken by myself. I'm sorry, if my continuing rage against our government, and its murderous policies disturbs you. Don't you think that in an ng where the topic is gardening, that those of us who come here to read about gardening might be allowed to have a bit of freedom from American politics? Many posters here don't live in the US so it's OTT at the very least to foist such posting on us. On the other hand, we are individuals, each off whom plays our own little parts in celebrating and furthering gardening. All in all, I think that the good that we do, outweighs the bad. Thank you for the criticism, because I know you want to be part of something better. We all do. Which is why I garden. If I want to talk about politics or guns or other non gardening related issues, I do those in forums where that is the norm. I usually just read the subject. If it says, say, "How to seduce a sheep", I don't even click into it, because I have an idea what it is about, I'm no longer interested in the subject, and don't want to read it. If I click into a message that is titled Onion cultivation, and see that the thread drift has taken it into a discussion about the big O, I treat it the same way, or mark the thread, knowing it has been discussed out. But that's just me. Some people like to bark about how Usenet should be in a perfect world. I just adjust to the one I have. Steve |
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"Steve B" wrote: "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message ... "Billy" wrote in message I have yet seen a newsgroup that doesn't go Off Topic, Going 'off topic' as a result of thread drift is one thing but deliberately posting something that is totally OT is quite another. It is not even as if any attempt was made to disguise the topic such as writing about perhaps shooting something in the garden and then weaving in comments that apply only to arcane US political speak. or contend with trolls or spammers. Sometimes in our exuberance we become excessive, but it is because of things about which we feel passionately (not to say that I wouldn't KF Dr. Chung, if he shows up here). Both of you, FarmI and Emily, are highly respected in this group, and your pronouncements not lightly taken by myself. I'm sorry, if my continuing rage against our government, and its murderous policies disturbs you. Don't you think that in an ng where the topic is gardening, that those of us who come here to read about gardening might be allowed to have a bit of freedom from American politics? Many posters here don't live in the US so it's OTT at the very least to foist such posting on us. On the other hand, we are individuals, each off whom plays our own little parts in celebrating and furthering gardening. All in all, I think that the good that we do, outweighs the bad. Thank you for the criticism, because I know you want to be part of something better. We all do. Which is why I garden. If I want to talk about politics or guns or other non gardening related issues, I do those in forums where that is the norm. I usually just read the subject. If it says, say, "How to seduce a sheep", I don't even click into it, because I have an idea what it is about, I'm no longer interested in the subject, and don't want to read it. If I click into a message that is titled Onion cultivation, and see that the thread drift has taken it into a discussion about the big O, I treat it the same way, or mark the thread, knowing it has been discussed out. But that's just me. Some people like to bark about how Usenet should be in a perfect world. I just adjust to the one I have. Steve Yes and people that know about cabg don't worry about the small things. Guess I should have wrote cabbage. -- Bill Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA |
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