Winter here is not very cold by Nth American and European standards. The
frosty shots in this collection are about as cold as it gets, that is
about -4C air temperature, probably -7C on the ground.

http://s1086.photobucket.com/albums/...Winter%202012/

The citrus are still on the trees which are doing fine, they are only frost
tender under these conditions when young.

For those who have read me going on about medlar jelly here is why I say the
colour is pretty.

David

On 7/21/12 4:13 AM, David Hare-Scott wrote:
Winter here is not very cold by Nth American and European standards. The
frosty shots in this collection are about as cold as it gets, that is
about -4C air temperature, probably -7C on the ground.

http://s1086.photobucket.com/albums/...Winter%202012/

The citrus are still on the trees which are doing fine, they are only frost
tender under these conditions when young.

For those who have read me going on about medlar jelly here is why I say the
colour is pretty.

David


-4C is +24F, which is colder than anything I have seen in more than five
years.

Where are you?

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

On Jul 21, 10:06*am, "David E. Ross" wrote:
On 7/21/12 4:13 AM, David Hare-Scott wrote:

Winter here is not very cold by Nth American and European standards. *The
frosty shots in this collection are about as cold as it gets, that is
about -4C air temperature, probably -7C on the ground.

http://s1086.photobucket.com/albums/...Winter%202012/

The citrus are still on the trees which are doing fine, they are only frost
tender under these conditions when young.

For those who have read me going on about medlar jelly here is why I say the
colour is pretty.

David

-4C is +24F, which is colder than anything I have seen in more than five
years.

Where are you?

--
David E. Ross
Climate: *California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

I think he's in OZ, and even there, the coastal climates should be
warmer, I'd have thought?... David?

On 7/21/2012 1:06 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 7/21/12 4:13 AM, David Hare-Scott wrote:
Winter here is not very cold by Nth American and European standards. The
frosty shots in this collection are about as cold as it gets, that is
about -4C air temperature, probably -7C on the ground.

http://s1086.photobucket.com/albums/...Winter%202012/

The citrus are still on the trees which are doing fine, they are only frost
tender under these conditions when young.

For those who have read me going on about medlar jelly here is why I say the
colour is pretty.

David


-4C is +24F, which is colder than anything I have seen in more than five
years.

Where are you?


South-Eastern Australia would be my guess given the onset of cold(ish)
weather a photo of an Eastern Rosella and the posting time offset on the
anonymous free German(?) news server. Of course the bird might have been in
a zoo or been a vacation snap and the time offset could be faked but I'm
guessing not. If the weather is really even a degree below freezing I'd be
betting on New South Wales or Victoria but, given the population
distribution in Oz, they would be the odds-on favorites anyway. Tasmania is
always a slight possibility. (Wonder if David knows Richard Raffan?) Inland
somewhere away from the tempering effect of the ocean seems reasonable.
Could it even be Canberra? Could be, but keeping chickens in Canberra seems
wrong somehow but, again, the picture could be misleading.

I'll go with New South Wales or Victoria. OK David, how did I do?

David E. Ross wrote:
On 7/21/12 4:13 AM, David Hare-Scott wrote:
Winter here is not very cold by Nth American and European standards.
The frosty shots in this collection are about as cold as it gets,
that is
about -4C air temperature, probably -7C on the ground.

http://s1086.photobucket.com/albums/...Winter%202012/

The citrus are still on the trees which are doing fine, they are
only frost tender under these conditions when young.

For those who have read me going on about medlar jelly here is why I
say the colour is pretty.

David


-4C is +24F, which is colder than anything I have seen in more than
five years.

Where are you?

North of Newcastle Australia, in a little frost pocket. Summer max temps
are usually around 32C but can hit 44 and winter min usually about 6 but can
hit -4. With the El Nino - La Nina swings giving no rain for months or
300mm in a week it's a challenge.

D

Higgs Boson wrote:
On Jul 21, 10:06 am, "David E. Ross" wrote:
On 7/21/12 4:13 AM, David Hare-Scott wrote:

Winter here is not very cold by Nth American and European
standards. The frosty shots in this collection are about as cold as
it gets, that is
about -4C air temperature, probably -7C on the ground.

http://s1086.photobucket.com/albums/...Winter%202012/

The citrus are still on the trees which are doing fine, they are
only frost tender under these conditions when young.

For those who have read me going on about medlar jelly here is why
I say the colour is pretty.

David

-4C is +24F, which is colder than anything I have seen in more than
five years.

Where are you?

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

I think he's in OZ, and even there, the coastal climates should be
warmer, I'd have thought?... David?

I am inland enought to lose most of the ocean's moderating effect. It does
get warm alright.

D

John McGaw wrote:
On 7/21/2012 1:06 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 7/21/12 4:13 AM, David Hare-Scott wrote:
Winter here is not very cold by Nth American and European
standards. The frosty shots in this collection are about as cold
as it gets, that is about -4C air temperature, probably -7C on the
ground.

http://s1086.photobucket.com/albums/...Winter%202012/

The citrus are still on the trees which are doing fine, they are
only frost tender under these conditions when young.

For those who have read me going on about medlar jelly here is why
I say the colour is pretty.

David


-4C is +24F, which is colder than anything I have seen in more than
five years.

Where are you?


South-Eastern Australia would be my guess given the onset of cold(ish)
weather a photo of an Eastern Rosella and the posting time offset on
the anonymous free German(?) news server. Of course the bird might
have been in a zoo or been a vacation snap and the time offset could
be faked but I'm guessing not.

There are only a handful of shots in all the albums that were not taken on
my property. The birds in the winter album are locals, as is the eagle in
another. Albasani is Italian and free and I recommend it for those who want
to use a newsreader.

If the weather is really even a degree
below freezing I'd be betting on New South Wales or Victoria but,

No, any inland area in the southern half of the continent fits that.

given the population distribution in Oz, they would be the odds-on
favorites anyway. Tasmania is always a slight possibility. (Wonder if
David knows Richard Raffan?) Inland somewhere away from the tempering
effect of the ocean seems reasonable. Could it even be Canberra?
Could be, but keeping chickens in Canberra seems wrong somehow but,
again, the picture could be misleading.

The climate here is not unlike Canberra but I am not as high so the coldest
time only lasts a few hours instead of days and it generally warms up
through the day. There is no reason why you couldn't keep chooks in
Canberra.

I'll go with New South Wales or Victoria. OK David, how did I do?

You done good but got lucky with the temperature as it is not diagnostic. I
am north of Newcastle NSW.

As I detailed to DER gardening can be a challenge here.

D

On 7/21/12 5:44 PM, David Hare-Scott wrote [in part]:
John McGaw wrote [also in part]:
South-Eastern Australia would be my guess given the onset of cold(ish)
weather a photo of an Eastern Rosella and the posting time offset on
the anonymous free German(?) news server. Of course the bird might
have been in a zoo or been a vacation snap and the time offset could
be faked but I'm guessing not.

There are only a handful of shots in all the albums that were not taken on
my property. The birds in the winter album are locals, as is the eagle in
another. Albasani is Italian and free and I recommend it for those who want
to use a newsreader.

I regret to inform you that Alexander Bartolich -- the owner and
operator of the Albasani newsgroup server -- died suddenly early this
month. No one is sure at this time, how long his servers will continue
to operate. Besides the Albasani server, Bartolich's servers handled
moderation for several newsgroups and some Web sites.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

"John McGaw" wrote in message

Tasmania is
always a slight possibility. (Wonder if David knows Richard Raffan?)

Well I certainly know who he is. I did lessons with David Upfill Borwn
before he went to teach in Maine.
http://www.woodwork-magazine.com/index.php/archives/70

I'm stunned at teh interviewer needing to 'get a handle' on David's accent.
The interviewer must have been deaf, stupid or parochial.

Inland
somewhere away from the tempering effect of the ocean seems reasonable.
Could it even be Canberra? Could be, but keeping chickens in Canberra
seems wrong somehow but, again, the picture could be misleading.

I'll go with New South Wales or Victoria. OK David, how did I do?

Off target but not too bad. I get -9C mornings sometimes :-))

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
John McGaw wrote:
On 7/21/2012 1:06 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 7/21/12 4:13 AM, David Hare-Scott wrote:
Winter here is not very cold by Nth American and European
standards. The frosty shots in this collection are about as cold
as it gets, that is about -4C air temperature, probably -7C on the
ground.

http://s1086.photobucket.com/albums/...Winter%202012/

The citrus are still on the trees which are doing fine, they are
only frost tender under these conditions when young.

For those who have read me going on about medlar jelly here is why
I say the colour is pretty.

David


-4C is +24F, which is colder than anything I have seen in more than
five years.

Where are you?


South-Eastern Australia would be my guess given the onset of cold(ish)
weather a photo of an Eastern Rosella and the posting time offset on
the anonymous free German(?) news server. Of course the bird might
have been in a zoo or been a vacation snap and the time offset could
be faked but I'm guessing not.

There are only a handful of shots in all the albums that were not taken on
my property. The birds in the winter album are locals, as is the eagle in
another. Albasani is Italian and free and I recommend it for those who
want to use a newsreader.

If the weather is really even a degree
below freezing I'd be betting on New South Wales or Victoria but,

No, any inland area in the southern half of the continent fits that.

given the population distribution in Oz, they would be the odds-on
favorites anyway. Tasmania is always a slight possibility. (Wonder if
David knows Richard Raffan?) Inland somewhere away from the tempering
effect of the ocean seems reasonable. Could it even be Canberra?
Could be, but keeping chickens in Canberra seems wrong somehow but,
again, the picture could be misleading.

The climate here is not unlike Canberra but I am not as high so the
coldest time only lasts a few hours instead of days and it generally warms
up through the day. There is no reason why you couldn't keep chooks in
Canberra.

I know people in Canberra who've kept and still do keep chooks - in fact
decades ago when we lived in Canberra we had chooks and ducks. No roosters
are allowed but certainly no problems with keeping chooks or ducks.