"madgardener" wrote in message
.. .
If you're using Frontline tick drops it absolutely KILLS the ticks. I
don't
use Advantage. Doesn't work.
madgardener who hasn't had ticks on Rose or her felines since using
Frontline drops that comes in a three pack.

Yep, Frontline all the way. We have 3 dogs, well 4 up until last week. All
the dogs are over the 44 lbs size so the Frontline is the medium size and
expensive. I get it online much cheaper than at the vet!

Judy

"Judy and Dave G" wrote in message
...
Hello all.

Good lord. I have seen more ticks so far this year than I have ever
seen
before. We moved to this farm 10 years ago. Took me a couple years to
be
able to pick a tick off and kill it. Still can't touch those darn
swelled
up, grayish green ones. Dave's gotta get them.

Our farm is about 60 acres, on a hillside, from the creek at the bottom
to
the ridge at the top. I hate snakes and ticks. I read somewhere,
sometime
that if you mow areas close to your home that snakes and ticks shouldn't
be
a problem. Well, I get a bit carried away. I mow about 3 acres in the
bottoms, about an acre around the house, then a 30 foot path up to the
top
of the hill with about an acre by the bees, an acre at the first
leveling,
and about 3 acres in the top field by the pond.

So you can pretty much walk everywhere that is comfortable (some of the
hillside is really a bit too steep for comfort) and not be close to high
grass. Even at the middle of the path, the higher grass is 15 feet
away.
Now, when I am mowing, I am fair game to the ticks. Because I am
sitting
on
the lawn tractor and brushing right past all the weeds, berries and ivy
and
ducking under the trees.

But, if I walk out the front door, down the walk, onto the gravel drive,
down to the road for the mail, (about 300 feet) and back up to the
house:
I
have at least 3, count em, 3 friggin ticks on me. Geez.

We use flea and tick drops on the dogs. We have 3 dogs now. Apparently
the
drops don't deter the ticks from getting on the dogs. If you sit on the
porch and swing, the dogs will come over and need a pat. You can SEE
the
friggin ticks walking around on their fur, the only dead ones are the
ones
that are attached.

And this is only May for cripes sake.

Doesn't look to be a real comfortable summer. Gonna be feeling and
scratching and picking. Gross. Yuck. Anyone else in the country and
noticing ticks are pretty bad this year? I am in Kentucky.

Judy

The
vet said to not switch to advantage because I would lose the protection
from
heartworm and ear mites.

Advantage makes heartworm medcine not work?????

Noooo. Advantage doesn't have heartworm preventative. Also, revolution is a
topical and not an internal as is Advantage. Revolution protects against
everything (heartworm, ear mites, fleas and deer ticks among others) common to
the wonderous beasts (Cats & Dogs). Sad that I can't get hens in the city
without really "ticking" off the neighbors. LOLOL

Just my 2 cents.........
Christine

"Guinea hens are known to have a voracious appetite for ticks, so some folks in
tick infested areas buy them for that purpose.

Susan"

AND


"Go 5 mile out of town and you see more and more guinea fowl which on a
restricted diet can reduce tick populations by about 80%"

Hi Folks -
Yes. Get some guineas! Both these quotes are true I'd say - as we've had between 6 - 24 guineas almost
constantly running loose (they over winter and roost in a good sized chicken house) for over two dozen years
here on my Ozark beef farm and believe me the ticks have been NOTICEABLY reduced in number!
This is apparently how it works - 1/ guinea walks by the tick on the leaf - the tick jumps onto the
guinea - 2/ guinea preens itself regularly - finds tick - 3/ eats tick. Aslo fattened ticks collecting where
animals often sleep are a thick juicy snack for a guinea - also of cardinals I might add.
So - over a period of years this repetitive guinea process severely eats into the tick population (unless
God forgid - rabbits are ever allowed free birthing rights in rampant blackberry patches by certain overly
sensitive types who love 'cute' more than good sense.) Now lo and behold - we are seldom adversely affected
by excessive ticks anywhere near our house - although one or two will appear occasionally no matter what it
seems. Guineas are however often noisy - and sometimes here they can get shot dead if they overly indulge in
any monotony of racket - causing the evolution of quieter and quieter farm guneas - one would hope. G
Actually when they 'pair off' (married???) they can become quite settled and peaceful - making a pleasant
kind of gentle peeping sound as they walk by ever scanning the grass for bugs.
We like the natural 'pearl' kind - like you see on Natiuonal Geographic shows about Africa - I wouldn't
want a weird purple or mauve or white one on the place - (unless G they were also quieter).
- Wes/MO

Guinea fowl are wonderful, we used them all the time for our garden, yard
and around our boarding kennel. Never had a trace of a tick and besides they
aerate the garden for you to some extent. We lived on 40 acres with about 10
of it being thick trees, the kennel was beside the wooded area and after
turning loose the guinea's we had no problems with ticks or fleas anywhere.

Kathy

"lwr" wrote in message ...
"Guinea hens are known to have a voracious appetite for ticks, so some
folks in
tick infested areas buy them for that purpose.

Susan"

AND


"Go 5 mile out of town and you see more and more guinea fowl which on a
restricted diet can reduce tick populations by about 80%"

Hi Folks -
Yes. Get some guineas! Both these quotes are true I'd say - as we've
had between 6 - 24 guineas almost
constantly running loose (they over winter and roost in a good sized
chicken house) for over two dozen years
here on my Ozark beef farm and believe me the ticks have been NOTICEABLY
reduced in number!
This is apparently how it works - 1/ guinea walks by the tick on the
leaf - the tick jumps onto the
guinea - 2/ guinea preens itself regularly - finds tick - 3/ eats tick.
Aslo fattened ticks collecting where
animals often sleep are a thick juicy snack for a guinea - also of
cardinals I might add.
So - over a period of years this repetitive guinea process severely
eats into the tick population (unless
God forgid - rabbits are ever allowed free birthing rights in rampant
blackberry patches by certain overly
sensitive types who love 'cute' more than good sense.) Now lo and
behold - we are seldom adversely affected
by excessive ticks anywhere near our house - although one or two will
appear occasionally no matter what it
seems. Guineas are however often noisy - and sometimes here they can get
shot dead if they overly indulge in
any monotony of racket - causing the evolution of quieter and quieter farm
guneas - one would hope. G
Actually when they 'pair off' (married???) they can become quite settled
and peaceful - making a pleasant
kind of gentle peeping sound as they walk by ever scanning the grass for
bugs.
We like the natural 'pearl' kind - like you see on Natiuonal
Geographic shows about Africa - I wouldn't
want a weird purple or mauve or white one on the place - (unless G they
were also quieter).
- Wes/MO

Where on line?



On Mon, 5 May 2003 21:43:40 -0400, "Judy and Dave G"
wrote:


"madgardener" wrote in message
. ..
If you're using Frontline tick drops it absolutely KILLS the ticks. I
don't
use Advantage. Doesn't work.
madgardener who hasn't had ticks on Rose or her felines since using
Frontline drops that comes in a three pack.

Yep, Frontline all the way. We have 3 dogs, well 4 up until last week. All
the dogs are over the 44 lbs size so the Frontline is the medium size and
expensive. I get it online much cheaper than at the vet!

Judy

"Judy and Dave G" wrote in message
...
Hello all.

Good lord. I have seen more ticks so far this year than I have ever
seen
before. We moved to this farm 10 years ago. Took me a couple years to
be
able to pick a tick off and kill it. Still can't touch those darn
swelled
up, grayish green ones. Dave's gotta get them.

Our farm is about 60 acres, on a hillside, from the creek at the bottom
to
the ridge at the top. I hate snakes and ticks. I read somewhere,
sometime
that if you mow areas close to your home that snakes and ticks shouldn't
be
a problem. Well, I get a bit carried away. I mow about 3 acres in the
bottoms, about an acre around the house, then a 30 foot path up to the
top
of the hill with about an acre by the bees, an acre at the first
leveling,
and about 3 acres in the top field by the pond.

So you can pretty much walk everywhere that is comfortable (some of the
hillside is really a bit too steep for comfort) and not be close to high
grass. Even at the middle of the path, the higher grass is 15 feet
away.
Now, when I am mowing, I am fair game to the ticks. Because I am
sitting
on
the lawn tractor and brushing right past all the weeds, berries and ivy
and
ducking under the trees.

But, if I walk out the front door, down the walk, onto the gravel drive,
down to the road for the mail, (about 300 feet) and back up to the
house:
I
have at least 3, count em, 3 friggin ticks on me. Geez.

We use flea and tick drops on the dogs. We have 3 dogs now. Apparently
the
drops don't deter the ticks from getting on the dogs. If you sit on the
porch and swing, the dogs will come over and need a pat. You can SEE
the
friggin ticks walking around on their fur, the only dead ones are the
ones
that are attached.

And this is only May for cripes sake.

Doesn't look to be a real comfortable summer. Gonna be feeling and
scratching and picking. Gross. Yuck. Anyone else in the country and
noticing ticks are pretty bad this year? I am in Kentucky.

Judy

I bought tick killing granules you apply to the ground. It worked where
ever you put them down. After 4 years of doing that, I moved to Western
Kansas. They don't even know what tick granules are around here. Been
here nearly 2 years now and haven't seen a tick or chigger in all that time.

Have fun, Dwayne

"Judy and Dave G" wrote in message
...
Hello all.

Good lord. I have seen more ticks so far this year than I have ever seen
before. We moved to this farm 10 years ago. Took me a couple years to be
able to pick a tick off and kill it. Still can't touch those darn swelled
up, grayish green ones. Dave's gotta get them.

Our farm is about 60 acres, on a hillside, from the creek at the bottom to
the ridge at the top. I hate snakes and ticks. I read somewhere,
sometime
that if you mow areas close to your home that snakes and ticks shouldn't
be
a problem. Well, I get a bit carried away. I mow about 3 acres in the
bottoms, about an acre around the house, then a 30 foot path up to the top
of the hill with about an acre by the bees, an acre at the first
leveling,
and about 3 acres in the top field by the pond.

So you can pretty much walk everywhere that is comfortable (some of the
hillside is really a bit too steep for comfort) and not be close to high
grass. Even at the middle of the path, the higher grass is 15 feet away.
Now, when I am mowing, I am fair game to the ticks. Because I am sitting
on
the lawn tractor and brushing right past all the weeds, berries and ivy
and
ducking under the trees.

But, if I walk out the front door, down the walk, onto the gravel drive,
down to the road for the mail, (about 300 feet) and back up to the house:
I
have at least 3, count em, 3 friggin ticks on me. Geez.

We use flea and tick drops on the dogs. We have 3 dogs now. Apparently
the
drops don't deter the ticks from getting on the dogs. If you sit on the
porch and swing, the dogs will come over and need a pat. You can SEE the
friggin ticks walking around on their fur, the only dead ones are the ones
that are attached.

And this is only May for cripes sake.

Doesn't look to be a real comfortable summer. Gonna be feeling and
scratching and picking. Gross. Yuck. Anyone else in the country and
noticing ticks are pretty bad this year? I am in Kentucky.

Judy

I have 6 dogs, 4 of em small, so I get the St. Bernard size and divide it up for all
of em. Ingrid

"Judy and Dave G" wrote:
Yep, Frontline all the way. We have 3 dogs, well 4 up until last week. All
the dogs are over the 44 lbs size so the Frontline is the medium size and
expensive. I get it online much cheaper than at the vet!


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Kathy wrote:

Guinea fowl are wonderful, we used them all the time for our garden, yard
and around our boarding kennel. Never had a trace of a tick and besides they
aerate the garden for you to some extent. We lived on 40 acres with about 10
of it being thick trees, the kennel was beside the wooded area and after
turning loose the guinea's we had no problems with ticks or fleas anywhere.

Kathy

"lwr" wrote in message ...
"Guinea hens are known to have a voracious appetite for ticks, so some
folks in
tick infested areas buy them for that purpose.

Susan"

AND


"Go 5 mile out of town and you see more and more guinea fowl which on a
restricted diet can reduce tick populations by about 80%"

Hi Folks -
Yes. Get some guineas! Both these quotes are true I'd say - as we've
had between 6 - 24 guineas almost
constantly running loose (they over winter and roost in a good sized
chicken house) for over two dozen years
here on my Ozark beef farm and believe me the ticks have been NOTICEABLY
reduced in number!
This is apparently how it works - 1/ guinea walks by the tick on the
leaf - the tick jumps onto the
guinea - 2/ guinea preens itself regularly - finds tick - 3/ eats tick.
Aslo fattened ticks collecting where
animals often sleep are a thick juicy snack for a guinea - also of
cardinals I might add.
So - over a period of years this repetitive guinea process severely
eats into the tick population (unless
God forgid - rabbits are ever allowed free birthing rights in rampant
blackberry patches by certain overly
sensitive types who love 'cute' more than good sense.) Now lo and
behold - we are seldom adversely affected
by excessive ticks anywhere near our house - although one or two will
appear occasionally no matter what it
seems. Guineas are however often noisy - and sometimes here they can get
shot dead if they overly indulge in
any monotony of racket - causing the evolution of quieter and quieter farm
guneas - one would hope. G
Actually when they 'pair off' (married???) they can become quite settled
and peaceful - making a pleasant
kind of gentle peeping sound as they walk by ever scanning the grass for
bugs.
We like the natural 'pearl' kind - like you see on Natiuonal
Geographic shows about Africa - I wouldn't
want a weird purple or mauve or white one on the place - (unless G they
were also quieter).
- Wes/MO





Hi Kathy - Nice to know that you had good luck with guineas vs. those evil
horrible ticks too. It is apparently easier for those of us who have room to
allow them to roam freely about - or at least have friendly equally appreciative
neighbors. - Wes/MO

Guineas, and lots of them!
Where I moved to in Ohio, the ticks were so thick that you couldn't go
outside for long without getting one or three, the I bought seven guineas
and you wouldn't believe the difference! The guineas (up to 21 now) patrol
the whole neighborhood and eat every tick they can find (except deer ticks,
I guess they're hard for the Guineas to see) plus Mexican Bean Beetles,
Colorado Potatoes Bugs, and many other bugs and are cleaner than ducks!
Another perk is they roost in the trees at the edge of the yard and alert
me at night if anything comes into the yard! Only thing I wish was that
their young tolerated the dampness better so they'd propagate the whole
county!

have a good one,
Homer

Judy and Dave G wrote:

"mt2" wrote in message
...
Guinea hens love to eat ticks. Chickens do too.

Yes a great idea. But our dogs seem to favor the taste of fresh poultry. I
wish there was a way to get them to not eat the little guys. We have a
beekeeper in our club who has been trying to get us to keep chickens for
years. He says the dogs won't eat many. Yuck. (He is also the one that
thinks the miniature ponies are just the right size for the freezer. I
won't even go there.)

Judy

"Judy and Dave G" wrote in message
...
Hello all.

Good lord. I have seen more ticks so far this year than I have ever seen
before. We moved to this farm 10 years ago. Took me a couple years to be
able to pick a tick off and kill it. Still can't touch those darn swelled
up, grayish green ones. Dave's gotta get them.

Our farm is about 60 acres, on a hillside, from the creek at the bottom to
the ridge at the top. I hate snakes and ticks. I read somewhere,
sometime
that if you mow areas close to your home that snakes and ticks shouldn't
be
a problem. Well, I get a bit carried away. I mow about 3 acres in the
bottoms, about an acre around the house, then a 30 foot path up to the top
of the hill with about an acre by the bees, an acre at the first
leveling,
and about 3 acres in the top field by the pond.

So you can pretty much walk everywhere that is comfortable (some of the
hillside is really a bit too steep for comfort) and not be close to high
grass. Even at the middle of the path, the higher grass is 15 feet away.
Now, when I am mowing, I am fair game to the ticks. Because I am sitting
on
the lawn tractor and brushing right past all the weeds, berries and ivy
and
ducking under the trees.

But, if I walk out the front door, down the walk, onto the gravel drive,
down to the road for the mail, (about 300 feet) and back up to the house:
I
have at least 3, count em, 3 friggin ticks on me. Geez.

We use flea and tick drops on the dogs. We have 3 dogs now. Apparently
the
drops don't deter the ticks from getting on the dogs. If you sit on the
porch and swing, the dogs will come over and need a pat. You can SEE the
friggin ticks walking around on their fur, the only dead ones are the ones
that are attached.

And this is only May for cripes sake.

Doesn't look to be a real comfortable summer. Gonna be feeling and
scratching and picking. Gross. Yuck. Anyone else in the country and
noticing ticks are pretty bad this year? I am in Kentucky.

Judy



Hi Again Judy -
As to preventing dogs from eating your poultry - if you've got the desire -
it takes about a good 30 minutes with your dog on a leash (for you to tug on)
and quite a few firm disapproving "NO NO's - properly spoken to your temporarily
lunging but securely restrained dog while the both of you are walking amongst
your poultry - then you can easily do it. The dog just hates getting the "No
No's! - however - perhaps after the initial training episode - if the dog still
shows continued interest (ears perk up while eyes steadily focus in a menacingly
way on said fowl - or especially if you should by chance have a somewhat more
single minded dog like a Chow) - you might want to keep the dog tied for an
additional period or until you can repeat this training session one more time
before releasing and testing said dog - always at this point with watchful
supervision - perhaps a few more 'no no's' if dog adversely shows ANY - even
momentary - 'interest' - OR until you are fully assured that the dog has indeed
been 'retrained.'
This procedure should train your dog NOT to chase your fowl - even when
you're not around. Your good dog should then be able to doze while guineas and
chickens are happily foraging nearby - and even protect them from wild
predators. Our dogs (blue and red heelers) even chase after hawks. This has
been my experience getting young and even occasionally older dogs to coexist
peacefully with all our free ranging poultry here on our place for many years.
- Wes/MO

All we use is Frontline. Easy on the dogs skin if they are allergic to
something. Frontline is not a heartworm med. We use Interceptor (Heartworm)and
Frontline (Flea and Tick). No problems and my dogs and I are in the woods
everyday for a couple of hours. No tick this year yet and my dogs are tick
magnets.

Marty

Judy and Dave G wrote:

"madgardener" wrote in message
.. .
If you're using Frontline tick drops it absolutely KILLS the ticks. I
don't
use Advantage. Doesn't work.
madgardener who hasn't had ticks on Rose or her felines since using
Frontline drops that comes in a three pack.

Yep, Frontline all the way. We have 3 dogs, well 4 up until last week. All
the dogs are over the 44 lbs size so the Frontline is the medium size and
expensive. I get it online much cheaper than at the vet!

Judy