http://www.pbase.com/beecee/plants

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Five pages of pictures? Get thee to the library!

http://www.pbase.com/beecee/plants

Five pages of pictures? Get thee to the library!

Or how about visiting the local garden shop and finding the names. They all
seem pretty common. I'm a plant ijit and I recognized many of them. A little
effort on your part goes a long way.

Once you whittle down the list some with your effort, it would be reasonable to
ask for help.

Just my 2 cents.........
Christine

On 11 May 2003 08:14:36 -0700, () wrote:

http://www.pbase.com/beecee/plants

Yikes, how lazy can you be?



"Nature, left alone, is in perfect balance.
Harmful insects and plant diseases are always present,
but do not occur in nature to an extent which requires the use of poisonous chemicals.
The sensible approach to disease and insect control is to grow sturdy crops in a healthy environment."

Masanobu Fukuoka, One Straw Revolution--1978

In article ,
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http://www.pbase.com/beecee/plants

I was a little surprised everyone immediately picked on you for being too
lazy to label even the obvious ones yourself with a minimum of
investigation. Many folks in this newsgroup are GREAT at identifying
plants by their pictures & are always very helpful about such things. But
you've got to show at least a LITTLE personal initiative, or else it's
difficult to even believe you care. You can expect eager help from folks
here when you're only trying to solve the identity of one or two things at
a time.

-paghat the ratgirl

--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/

Hello?

No explanation nor excuse why you are unable to identify thses common plants
all by yourself?

What do we win if we identify all of them for you?

An all expenses paid trip to Kew Gardens in England perhaps?

Maybe next time you will know better than to throw all your labels away?


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That jerk makes you look like a saint, Tomski.


Tom Jaszewski wrote in message
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On 11 May 2003 08:14:36 -0700, () wrote:

http://www.pbase.com/beecee/plants

Yikes, how lazy can you be?



"Nature, left alone, is in perfect balance.
Harmful insects and plant diseases are always present,
but do not occur in nature to an extent which requires the use of
poisonous chemicals.
The sensible approach to disease and insect control is to grow sturdy
crops in a healthy environment."

Masanobu Fukuoka, One Straw Revolution--1978

On Sun, 11 May 2003 20:44:24 GMT, "Cereoid-UR12"
wrote:

That jerk makes you look like a saint, Tomski.


hmmmm Saint Tomski, it has a nice ring....


"Nature, left alone, is in perfect balance.
Harmful insects and plant diseases are always present,
but do not occur in nature to an extent which requires the use of poisonous chemicals.
The sensible approach to disease and insect control is to grow sturdy crops in a healthy environment."

Masanobu Fukuoka, One Straw Revolution--1978

Hmm, let's look at this in a different way.

First off... I am not your mother nor am I your boss. I cannot *tell*
you to do anything.

I did not offer the world or a small sum of cash, this is correct. I
will not nor will I ever offer cash for a task that is not demanded of
anyone.

I do not have to explain myself either and I will not even though I
could.

To think that one human being would as other human beings for some
advice and get the crap I got from the lot of you is crazy.

Is there nothing better to do than get angry over something that is
not demanded of you?

If you don't want to look at plants, don't. That's your choice and
that's fine. But, its insane users like yourself that lend a hand in
the everyday assness of life.

I swear there are no humans left on this world that choose NOT to
bitch. C'mon! This is a gardening forum and you're choosing to flame
rather than click and move on. Isn't there something in your life
that entertains you more than picking on someone who asks for help?
If I knew the answers to my questions I would never waste my breathe
asking them.

Yes, it's true; I know NOTHING about plants, AT ALL! (Thus a posting
to others that discuss this in a grouping)

Just because YOU do does not mean I DO.

What is the use of a public discussion group if no discussion can take
place without people who have anger inside of themselves?

I don't have to justify my request to anyone because if YOU don't care
you will make the choice to move on. Unfortunately, you all choose to
be angry, make the =| face and be old farts who withhold SIMPLE
information which you already know.

Do you want to be cool and unique by attempting to insult and hurt
another person? Do you want to look prestigious or annoyed by posting
your feelings on not caring for a post? Why not just... click away?
I have been posting on BBS's and newsgroups for eons and I NEVER
thought that I would get such a reaction to a SIMPLE and EASY to click
away from newsgroup posting.

Even if I, at the time, had EVERY plant identified I can promise you
some arse would bitch about the fact that I misspelled some plants
name. Either way, I'm sitting here in awe at the way YOU all can be
so cold and basically "assholish" to someone you know nothing about,
have no reason to dislike and have NO reason to insult. It's
appalling to see this type of behavior.



I am just grateful that not everyone is like the few of you who
replied to this post with total disregard for anything but themselves.
If you don't want to do it, don't. Isn't that what newsgroups are
all about?

On a final not, I want to thank those that did spend their time
sharing their knowledge with me rather than complaining about a silly
post. I do really appreciate your help. Taking care of all these
plant will be a HUGE task in the Arizona heat, I really needed the
advice I was given.

Thanks a bunch!!!!!
Adri
"Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain - and most fools do."
-Dale Carnegie

"Criticism comes easier than craftsmanship."
-Zeuxis (~400 BC), from Pliny the Elder, Natural History

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of
cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
-Peggy Noonan (1950 - ), in Good Housekeeping

"Cynics regarded everybody as equally corrupt... Idealists regarded
everybody as equally corrupt, except themselves."
-Robert Anton Wilson




Hello?

No explanation nor excuse why you are unable to identify thses common plants
all by yourself?

What do we win if we identify all of them for you?

An all expenses paid trip to Kew Gardens in England perhaps?

Maybe next time you will know better than to throw all your labels away?

On 17 May 2003 00:17:17 -0700, () wrote:

Hmm, let's look at this in a different way.

In the time it took to write your diatribe you could have identified
half your plants on the web?


"Nature, left alone, is in perfect balance.
Harmful insects and plant diseases are always present,
but do not occur in nature to an extent which requires the use of poisonous chemicals.
The sensible approach to disease and insect control is to grow sturdy crops in a healthy environment."

Masanobu Fukuoka, One Straw Revolution--1978

Since you put it that way: YOU CAN KISS MY ASS!!!!!!

If you had asked nicely, we might have considered helping but with your
unjustified self-righteous attitude, forget it. If you had acted like a
human being, you would have been treated like one. Instead you carry on like
we owe you a favor. Guess what? We don't and we couldn't care less.

You win the prize! You're lazy, stupid, an arrogant ninny and not worthy of
our time. You know a lot less than just about plants.

Everyone had you pegged correctly from the very beginning!!!!

Make an effort to identify the plants yourself and you might learn
something.
Nothing of what you have is rare or unusual and you should have no trouble
finding pictures in books if you go to a library and look them up. Like they
say in the Nike ads: Just do it. Then don't get back to us.

If you actually followed the advice of Dale Carnegie and the others you
quote, we would have helped you. That's your loss not ours.


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Hmm, let's look at this in a different way.

First off... I am not your mother nor am I your boss. I cannot *tell*
you to do anything.

I did not offer the world or a small sum of cash, this is correct. I
will not nor will I ever offer cash for a task that is not demanded of
anyone.

I do not have to explain myself either and I will not even though I
could.

To think that one human being would as other human beings for some
advice and get the crap I got from the lot of you is crazy.

Is there nothing better to do than get angry over something that is
not demanded of you?

If you don't want to look at plants, don't. That's your choice and
that's fine. But, its insane users like yourself that lend a hand in
the everyday assness of life.

I swear there are no humans left on this world that choose NOT to
bitch. C'mon! This is a gardening forum and you're choosing to flame
rather than click and move on. Isn't there something in your life
that entertains you more than picking on someone who asks for help?
If I knew the answers to my questions I would never waste my breathe
asking them.

Yes, it's true; I know NOTHING about plants, AT ALL! (Thus a posting
to others that discuss this in a grouping)

Just because YOU do does not mean I DO.

What is the use of a public discussion group if no discussion can take
place without people who have anger inside of themselves?

I don't have to justify my request to anyone because if YOU don't care
you will make the choice to move on. Unfortunately, you all choose to
be angry, make the =| face and be old farts who withhold SIMPLE
information which you already know.

Do you want to be cool and unique by attempting to insult and hurt
another person? Do you want to look prestigious or annoyed by posting
your feelings on not caring for a post? Why not just... click away?
I have been posting on BBS's and newsgroups for eons and I NEVER
thought that I would get such a reaction to a SIMPLE and EASY to click
away from newsgroup posting.

Even if I, at the time, had EVERY plant identified I can promise you
some arse would bitch about the fact that I misspelled some plants
name. Either way, I'm sitting here in awe at the way YOU all can be
so cold and basically "assholish" to someone you know nothing about,
have no reason to dislike and have NO reason to insult. It's
appalling to see this type of behavior.



I am just grateful that not everyone is like the few of you who
replied to this post with total disregard for anything but themselves.
If you don't want to do it, don't. Isn't that what newsgroups are
all about?

On a final not, I want to thank those that did spend their time
sharing their knowledge with me rather than complaining about a silly
post. I do really appreciate your help. Taking care of all these
plant will be a HUGE task in the Arizona heat, I really needed the
advice I was given.

Thanks a bunch!!!!!
Adri
"Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain - and most fools do."
-Dale Carnegie

"Criticism comes easier than craftsmanship."
-Zeuxis (~400 BC), from Pliny the Elder, Natural History

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of
cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
-Peggy Noonan (1950 - ), in Good Housekeeping

"Cynics regarded everybody as equally corrupt... Idealists regarded
everybody as equally corrupt, except themselves."
-Robert Anton Wilson




Hello?

No explanation nor excuse why you are unable to identify thses common
plants
all by yourself?

What do we win if we identify all of them for you?

An all expenses paid trip to Kew Gardens in England perhaps?

Maybe next time you will know better than to throw all your labels away?

"Cereoid-UR12" wrote in message y.com...
Since you put it that way: YOU CAN KISS MY ASS!!!!!!


I'm so glad that people can control their anger.

-A

Out of context, my reply has no meaning, you nefarious putz.


wrote in message
om...
"Cereoid-UR12" wrote in message
y.com...
Since you put it that way: YOU CAN KISS MY ASS!!!!!!


I'm so glad that people can control their anger.

-A

So, what is the problem here?

Is it the fact that I rushed to post images on an image gallery on
Mothers day so I could go be with her on the very first mom day since
my pop died and left me all these plants and I failed to comment RIGHT
AWAY on the images?

Was it the fact that I just posted the link (because I was rushing)
but didn't type in smiley faces and blabber?

Is it that you are not a helpful person and only participate in a
gardening discussion to flame people looking for a bit of help.

Is it that you think I'm some jerk lazy ass sitting there in front of
my computer awaiting the chance to flame a friendly gal with a jungle
to take care of?

Is it because you wanted to be cool like the first responses to my
posting? Be part of the "crowd"?
Those comments were understandable and valid in content for the first
2 days of the post but not from then on but you thought you would look
"nifty" by joining in on a flame without even checking your source? If
you had visited the link you would have seen comments, introduction,
and reasoning your asinine and rude comments would not be warranted?
But, that would be too much work... thus your love of the word "lazy".

Is it because I was honest in my reply on how I felt about the
rudeness of it all and explained my displeasure and the truth hurts?
Even without commenting on things that could not be proved based on
any conversation in this post. (Like you have done) What do you
expect me to do? Take it like a (wo)man? You totally bash me, my
ethics and my.... energy level? Boy, you don't know me. (Thus you
should not comment, just makes you look bad)

Bottom line? Flaming is bad. Flaming with no grounds is even worse.
Flaming a person without even having a clue about them is just being
an ass with nothing to do. Continuation of a flame even after the
flame is not valid is just poor taste.

Now, if you have some valid reason for calling someone who works
50hours a week and another 10+ on a home that is only their
responsibility because of a death... go for it. If the only thing
that you can do is be an ass, so be it.

Good bye. Maybe in your next life you will learn to play nice with
others. Continue on your road to social retardation, no skin of my
back. I posted on this forum with a smile and ended up rolling my eyes
at the stupid direction it went.

You can give any response you like because I know I'm right when I say
"Helping someone out is much more entertaining to the soul than being
angry over needless things."