Hi, I am posting for the first time here. I have read many of the
articles and this seems like a great newsgroup!!

I have searched the internet and I cannot figure out how to successfully
get rid of poison ivy from my yard. We live in a wooded area and are
just trying to beat the poison ivy back out of the gardens and out of the
lawn on the edges of the woods. I normally don't like to use chemicals,
but after a few nasty cases of blistering skin, I ran to get some Round
Up. That is very expensive and doesn't seem to work that great. I have
also covered up with latex and pulled out scads of vines, bagged them and
thrown them in the garbage, but that is a hazardous endeavor. Are there
any home remedies that people have used that work?

-kim

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:36:36 GMT, Kim wrote:

Hi, I am posting for the first time here. I have read many of the
articles and this seems like a great newsgroup!!

I have searched the internet and I cannot figure out how to successfully
get rid of poison ivy from my yard. We live in a wooded area and are
just trying to beat the poison ivy back out of the gardens and out of the
lawn on the edges of the woods. I normally don't like to use chemicals,
but after a few nasty cases of blistering skin, I ran to get some Round
Up. That is very expensive and doesn't seem to work that great. I have
also covered up with latex and pulled out scads of vines, bagged them and
thrown them in the garbage, but that is a hazardous endeavor. Are there
any home remedies that people have used that work?

-kim


Poison ivy is very fond of wooded edges and that's where you will find
it. I have a friend (American Indian) who is non-allergic to PI and
will yank it out for the asking; otherwise I use RoundUp which is very
effective if applied per instructions. I might kill 15 small plants
per year on a half acre lot, but the first two years I used a lot of
RoundUp hunting the PI about every month. Seeds are brought in by
birds so your only hope is effective control.

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 23:30:32 GMT, Phisherman
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:36:36 GMT, Kim wrote:

Hi, I am posting for the first time here. I have read many of the
articles and this seems like a great newsgroup!!

I have searched the internet and I cannot figure out how to successfully
get rid of poison ivy from my yard. We live in a wooded area and are
just trying to beat the poison ivy back out of the gardens and out of the
lawn on the edges of the woods. I normally don't like to use chemicals,
but after a few nasty cases of blistering skin, I ran to get some Round
Up. That is very expensive and doesn't seem to work that great. I have
also covered up with latex and pulled out scads of vines, bagged them and
thrown them in the garbage, but that is a hazardous endeavor. Are there
any home remedies that people have used that work?

-kim

If the roots are well developed, it will take many
applications of Roundup to kill it. It's a sturdy plant.

As with any chemical, I suggest you wear gloves and don't
spray when it's windy.

Mike Prager
Beaufort, NC (on the coast in zone 8a)
(Remove symbols from email address to reply.)

Brush Killer works much better than Roundup on woody plant growth. Depending
on your weather, allow several weeks or more for the leaves and stems to dry
and the oil to decompose or evaporate. Even so, be careful in cleanup and,
of course, don't burn any of it. We have eliminated large patches of it
safely in this way. Be on the look out for seedlings for the next few
seasons. Birds can always bring in more seeds so you may never be free of
it. Tho not as toxic, we have the same problem with mistletoe which can be
treated similiarly if the brush killer is brushed on or applied to cut
surfaces and kept off the tree. Apparently, not enough of the poison gets
through the mistletoe roots into the tree to cause any permanent damage,
although I can see the possibility of damage to small limbs. But what's the
mistletoe going to do but kill the limb too. What's to lose?
Gary

"Kim" wrote in message
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Hi, I am posting for the first time here. I have read many of the
articles and this seems like a great newsgroup!!

I have searched the internet and I cannot figure out how to successfully
get rid of poison ivy from my yard. We live in a wooded area and are
just trying to beat the poison ivy back out of the gardens and out of the
lawn on the edges of the woods. I normally don't like to use chemicals,
but after a few nasty cases of blistering skin, I ran to get some Round
Up. That is very expensive and doesn't seem to work that great. I have
also covered up with latex and pulled out scads of vines, bagged them and
thrown them in the garbage, but that is a hazardous endeavor. Are there
any home remedies that people have used that work?

-kim

I have searched the internet and I cannot figure out how to successfully
get rid of poison ivy from my yard. We live in a wooded area and are
just trying to beat the poison ivy back out of the gardens and out of the
lawn on the edges of the woods. I normally don't like to use chemicals,
but after a few nasty cases of blistering skin, I ran to get some Round
Up. That is very expensive and doesn't seem to work that great. I have
also covered up with latex and pulled out scads of vines, bagged them and
thrown them in the garbage, but that is a hazardous endeavor. Are there
any home remedies that people have used that work?

If used as directed, RoundUp is very effective at killing PI. I've used it
on a number of PI infestations with great success.

The first step in erradicating PI in your landscape is to hunt it all down.
Once you know where it is, you've won half the battle. It's especially fond
of treelines -- primarily the trees themselves, as in vertical growth -- and
it likes fences as well.

For small plants it is typically easiest to pull it out, roots and all.
Wear protective clothing and gloves of course -- I'd just pitch the gloves
afterwards as that oil is rather persistent.

For larger plants, such as the vines going up trees, it will take a bit more
work. First thing's first, cut it down -- not all the way to the ground
mind you, but at least low enough to make it manageable. If it has grown up
a tree then cut the vine at around waist height. Next, apply RoundUp to any
and all leaves PLUS use a brush (small paintbrush will typically do) or
sponge to apply it to any exposed stems or vines such as the one you cut on
the tree. After a week, I hit it again just to be sure. RoundUp takes a
good 2-3 weeks to get a solid kill.

FWIW, I have also found that urine does wonders against it. I've caught
some hell from others on the newsgroup for recommending this but hey -- it
works. My dogs urinate along the fenceline all the time and guess what?
You got it -- the PI has never come back and that's in spite of all the
birds in our yard and the fact that it owned that chain link fence for quite
a while. Take it for what it's worth.

I've started testing Brush B Gon for non-specific herbicidal uses as well --
thus far I am impressed. If memory serves, this contains Garlon and thus
far it is the ONLY thing I've used that has had an impact on Ailanthus
Altissima (Tree of Heaven; sanctioned in hell mind you) -- RoundUp knocks it
down but it always gets back up before the tenth count on the mat.

Naturally, all warnings apply here -- kids and animals away while working;
protective clothing, gloves, and mask; NEVER burn PI; dispose of in the
trash, not the compost heap, and so forth.

Hope you find this of use!

James

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:36:36 GMT, Kim wrote:

Hi, I am posting for the first time here. I have read many of the
articles and this seems like a great newsgroup!!

I have searched the internet and I cannot figure out how to successfully
get rid of poison ivy from my yard.

Check Google groups for previous discussions here. There have been
many with lots of good information. Do be careful. The irritant oils
willl adhere to clothing and animal fur. You say you're bagging and
putting in the garbage, which is good. Don't ever burn it.

I've had luck with Ortho Brush-B-Gon

In article , says...
I have searched the internet and I cannot figure out how to successfully
get rid of poison ivy from my yard. We live in a wooded area and are
just trying to beat the poison ivy back out of the gardens and out of the
lawn on the edges of the woods. I normally don't like to use chemicals,
but after a few nasty cases of blistering skin, I ran to get some Round
Up. That is very expensive and doesn't seem to work that great. I have
also covered up with latex and pulled out scads of vines, bagged them and
thrown them in the garbage, but that is a hazardous endeavor. Are there
any home remedies that people have used that work?

If used as directed, RoundUp is very effective at killing PI. I've used it
on a number of PI infestations with great success.

The first step in erradicating PI in your landscape is to hunt it all down.
Once you know where it is, you've won half the battle. It's especially fond
of treelines -- primarily the trees themselves, as in vertical growth -- and
it likes fences as well.

For small plants it is typically easiest to pull it out, roots and all.
Wear protective clothing and gloves of course -- I'd just pitch the gloves
afterwards as that oil is rather persistent.

For larger plants, such as the vines going up trees, it will take a bit more
work. First thing's first, cut it down -- not all the way to the ground
mind you, but at least low enough to make it manageable. If it has grown up
a tree then cut the vine at around waist height. Next, apply RoundUp to any
and all leaves PLUS use a brush (small paintbrush will typically do) or
sponge to apply it to any exposed stems or vines such as the one you cut on
the tree. After a week, I hit it again just to be sure. RoundUp takes a
good 2-3 weeks to get a solid kill.

FWIW, I have also found that urine does wonders against it. I've caught
some hell from others on the newsgroup for recommending this but hey -- it
works. My dogs urinate along the fenceline all the time and guess what?
You got it -- the PI has never come back and that's in spite of all the
birds in our yard and the fact that it owned that chain link fence for quite
a while. Take it for what it's worth.

I've started testing Brush B Gon for non-specific herbicidal uses as well --
thus far I am impressed. If memory serves, this contains Garlon and thus
far it is the ONLY thing I've used that has had an impact on Ailanthus
Altissima (Tree of Heaven; sanctioned in hell mind you) -- RoundUp knocks it
down but it always gets back up before the tenth count on the mat.

Naturally, all warnings apply here -- kids and animals away while working;
protective clothing, gloves, and mask; NEVER burn PI; dispose of in the
trash, not the compost heap, and so forth.

Hope you find this of use!

Thanks to all for your suggestions. I guess the problem with the roundup
is that we have so much poison ivy that we never seem to get it all, and
we don't want to kill all the other plants next to it. Although on
isolated patches of PI that i have killed with roundup, new PI plants
sprouted back up in a month or so. I have never heard of this brush
killer so I will look into that. Thanks again!

-kim

"TOM KAN PA" wrote in message
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I've had luck with Ortho Brush-B-Gon


I had expected you to ask if the Indian was available
Frank

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Kim writes in article t dated Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:36:36 GMT:
I have searched the internet and I cannot figure out how to successfully
get rid of poison ivy from my yard. We live in a wooded area and are
just trying to beat the poison ivy back out of the gardens and out of the
lawn on the edges of the woods. I normally don't like to use chemicals,
but after a few nasty cases of blistering skin, I ran to get some Round
Up. That is very expensive and doesn't seem to work that great. I have
also covered up with latex and pulled out scads of vines, bagged them and
thrown them in the garbage, but that is a hazardous endeavor. Are there
any home remedies that people have used that work?

Roundup is less effective against ivy than it is against other plants. A
bad choice, IMHO.

A few years ago I got a spray can of "poison ivy killer". It killed the
plants I found, but more kept coming into the yard. I even found one 2"
diameter vine going up a tree on the edge of the property. Vines going up
trees are easy to kill because all you have to do is sever them. If they're
on the ground, you have to pull them all the way out because if you leave
them they can re-root.

The best thing you can do is encourage growth of competing species and pull
out the PI regularly.

While we're talking about poison ivy I should mention -- there is *no*
topical treatment which reduces the duration of outbreaks. If your doctor
prescribes cream, change doctors. Corticosteroid pills work much better.

Also -- exposure makes you more sensitive to it, not less. If you have had
a reaction before, be very careful.

--Thundermaker$yahoo.com (Spud Demon)
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.

wrote in message
...

While we're talking about poison ivy I should mention -- there is *no*
topical treatment which reduces the duration of outbreaks.

That's not accurate, if you'll pardon me for saying so. Teknu, by the Ivy
Dri people, is the only topical cleanser I know of that removes urishiol
oils from epidermal cells-- although the last time we discussed this, I
recall other posters indicating some 'look alikes' had also sprung up since
Teknu came on the market.

Dave

writes:
While we're talking about poison ivy I should mention -- there is *no*
topical treatment which reduces the duration of outbreaks. If your doctor
prescribes cream, change doctors. Corticosteroid pills work much better.

I have heard several reports from friends that jewelweed
(sorry... don't know common name) is particularly good at reducing
swelling and itch. perhaps it has some antihistamine qualities when
applied topically.


--
be safe.
flip
Verso l'esterno! Verso l'esterno! Deamons di ignoranza.

jewelweed (sorry... don't know common name)
ummm.. sorry... don't know botanical name...
(bad flip)

wrote:

While we're talking about poison ivy I should mention -- there is *no*
topical treatment which reduces the duration of outbreaks. If your doctor
prescribes cream, change doctors. Corticosteroid pills work much better.

I am not reactive to poison ivy (yet), but DH is. Believing that
prevention is better than cure, when he's out there, he uses Tecnu Ivy
Block. After coming in, he uses a wash that is also made by Tecnu.
After a very bad case two years ago made worse by his refusal to see a
doctor, we switched to this protocol, and it has worked extremely well.

Suja

Thanks to all for your suggestions. I guess the problem with the roundup
is that we have so much poison ivy that we never seem to get it all, and
we don't want to kill all the other plants next to it. Although on
isolated patches of PI that i have killed with roundup, new PI plants
sprouted back up in a month or so. I have never heard of this brush
killer so I will look into that. Thanks again!

Kim -- You may want to consider using a paint brush in areas that have
plants you want to keep. If they actually touch the PI, then pulling is
generally a better bet but you can still use RoundUp -- just put a piece of
cardboard around it as well (that way the RoundUp'd leaves don't even touch
the other plants.

A heavy infestation will take a couple of seasons to fully eradicate -- PI
is a berry producer which means the little birdies just love it and spread
it everwhere. Trust me though -- you CAN get rid of it to the point
that it's not too difficult to manage.

The other product that I mentioned in my post was Ortho's "Brush-B-Gon".
Brush-B-Gon is a bit slower acting than RoundUp but it is equally effective
as a non-specific herbicide. I did a one-two punch on an area of weeds here
(i.e., I hit it with both) and I'm pleased to say that everything died to
the ground and now, almost a month later, I only have 2 or 3 weeds
re-sprouting -- good stuff.

James