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Vermiculite now illegal?
I tried to purchase a bag of vermiculite in a store in Ohio
yesterday. The clerk said they didn't carry it anymore because it was illegal. Any truth to this? I remember something a while back about prolonged exposure and cancer risk but it wasn't garden related. |
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Vermiculite now illegal?
"H Hornblower" wrote in message ... I tried to purchase a bag of vermiculite in a store in Ohio yesterday. The clerk said they didn't carry it anymore because it was illegal. Any truth to this? I remember something a while back about prolonged exposure and cancer risk but it wasn't garden related. Out of curiousity I ran it through a chemical regulatory database I have access to and found no designations of carcinogenicity. Frank |
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H Hornblower wrote:
I tried to purchase a bag of vermiculite in a store in Ohio yesterday. The clerk said they didn't carry it anymore because it was illegal. Any truth to this? I remember something a while back about prolonged exposure and cancer risk but it wasn't garden related. Perlite is usually considered botanically equivalent to vermiculite provided it is sold for botanical/horticultural purposes. Masonry perlite may contain large quantities of boron and harm plants. "Asbestos in Vermiculite Garden Products Because it provides aeration and drainage, vermiculite has been used in fertilizers, pesticides, potting mixes, and composts. However, this mica ore may contain asbestos. In a study of gardening products containing vermiculite, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) found trace amounts of asbestos in 17 of 38 products tested ( Sampling and Analysis of Consumer Garden Products that Contain Vermiculite, EPA, August 2000 ). Four of these products contained substantial amounts of asbestos: Schultz's Horticultural Vermiculite, Earthgro's Best Vermiculite, Hoffman's Vermiculite and Ace Horticultural Grade Vermiculite. Although the EPA and the Consumer Product Safety Commission believe that the potential hazard to consumers is low, many consumer advocates disagree ( Seattle Post-Intelligencer, August 23, 2000 ). They point out that garden products are not labeled for asbestos content, and that the EPA has found it necessary to issue instructions concerning vermiculite in garden products. The EPA recommendations include using premixed potting soils, which are moist and less likely to generate dust, and using alternatives to vermiculite such as peat, sawdust, perlite or bark. The agency also recommends that gardeners who do use straight vermiculite keep the material damp, use it in a well-ventilated area, and avoid getting vermiculite dust on their clothing." [http://www.asbestosnetwork.com/exposure/ex_consumer.htm] -- Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to Visit my Rhododendron and Azalea web pages at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman/rhody.html Also visit the Rhododendron and Azalea Bookstore at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman/rhodybooks.html Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA USA http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman |
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"H Hornblower" wrote in message
... I tried to purchase a bag of vermiculite in a store in Ohio yesterday. The clerk said they didn't carry it anymore because it was illegal. Any truth to this? I remember something a while back about prolonged exposure and cancer risk but it wasn't garden related. No. Home Depot has bags of it. |
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 22:42:24 GMT, H Hornblower wrote:
I tried to purchase a bag of vermiculite in a store in Ohio yesterday. The clerk said they didn't carry it anymore because it was illegal. Any truth to this? I remember something a while back about prolonged exposure and cancer risk but it wasn't garden related. I just bought some in Tennessee. But your laws may be different. You might be able to oder it online--the shipping should be cheap as this stuff is very lightweight. Sand or perlite are alternatives to starting suttings. I've used vermiculite for years, although never inhaled nor smoked it. ;-) |
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so does Lowes..............g
"Ricky" wrote in message ... "H Hornblower" wrote in message ... I tried to purchase a bag of vermiculite in a store in Ohio yesterday. The clerk said they didn't carry it anymore because it was illegal. Any truth to this? I remember something a while back about prolonged exposure and cancer risk but it wasn't garden related. No. Home Depot has bags of it. |
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inhaled or smoked? are we talking vermiculite or good ganja?? GBSEG
sorry couldn't resist, since it was Marley's birthday yesterday buffalo soldier......................maddie "Phisherman" wrote in message ... On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 22:42:24 GMT, H Hornblower wrote: I tried to purchase a bag of vermiculite in a store in Ohio yesterday. The clerk said they didn't carry it anymore because it was illegal. Any truth to this? I remember something a while back about prolonged exposure and cancer risk but it wasn't garden related. I just bought some in Tennessee. But your laws may be different. You might be able to oder it online--the shipping should be cheap as this stuff is very lightweight. Sand or perlite are alternatives to starting suttings. I've used vermiculite for years, although never inhaled nor smoked it. ;-) |
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H Hornblower wrote: I tried to purchase a bag of vermiculite in a store in Ohio yesterday. The clerk said they didn't carry it anymore because it was illegal. Any truth to this? I remember something a while back about prolonged exposure and cancer risk but it wasn't garden related. My mom, a lifelong nurseryman, has COPD now. She's on oxygen 24/7, since age 74. She's 78 now. The MD's think it's because of lifelong exposure to vermiculite in her greenhouses. She never smoked and was never around smokers. She's an RN. I still use vermiculite in my potting mix (Cornell mix, same as my mom always used) but am careful to not breathe around it. Don't know why, as I'm a smoker. Since we don't have health care for poor people in this country, I'm going to die young, so may as well drink and smoke and not worry about it. The govt. doesn't give a shit about anyone who's poor and votes democrat anyway. If we can't kick major bucks to the Repub's, no one gives a shit about us, so we die. Jan |
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"H Hornblower" wrote in message ... I tried to purchase a bag of vermiculite in a store in Ohio yesterday. The clerk said they didn't carry it anymore because it was illegal. Any truth to this? I remember something a while back about prolonged exposure and cancer risk but it wasn't garden related. Agricultural vermiculite is not illegal. There was a scare awhile back regarding vermiculite containing asbestos however that pertains to construction materials containing vermiculite. Most ag. vermiculite is mined at a different location than that used in the construction industry and is asbestos-free. All vermiculite does contain tiny little particles/shards of mica, which can be dangerous if inhaled over an extended period. A mask like that used when working with peat or Portland cement should remove any particulate matter and avoid any danger. FWIW, perlite is a far better additive to potting mixes and soil for increasing drainage, It doesn't absorb water and breakdown over time as vermiculite will. pam - gardengal |
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Jan Flora wrote in message ...
My mom, a lifelong nurseryman, has COPD now. She's on oxygen 24/7, since age 74. She's 78 now. The MD's think it's because of lifelong exposure to vermiculite in her greenhouses. She never smoked and was never around smokers. She's an RN. I still use vermiculite in my potting mix (Cornell mix, same as my mom always used) but am careful to not breathe around it. Don't know why, as I'm a smoker. Since we don't have health care for poor people in this country, I'm going to die young, so may as well drink and smoke and not worry about it. The govt. doesn't give a shit about anyone who's poor and votes democrat anyway. If we can't kick major bucks to the Repub's, no one gives a shit about us, so we die. Jan It is not just the poor that cannot get healthcare. Anyone with more than a hangnail of a pre-existing condition is deemed un-insurable. After all, who can make a profit on somebody that they know is going to get sick and actually USE the healthcare insurance. Linda H. |
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I see your point, but I think that is a major incentive to not smoke, drink,
or eat unhealthy foods. |
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Jan Flora wrote:
My mom, a lifelong nurseryman, has COPD now. She's on oxygen 24/7, since age 74. She's 78 now. The MD's think it's because of lifelong exposure to vermiculite in her greenhouses. She never smoked and was never around smokers. She's an RN. I'm a smoker. Second hand smoke may have contributed also. |
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Vermiculite now illegal?
The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) found trace
amounts of asbestos in 17 of 38 products tested ( Sampling and Analysis of Consumer Garden Products that Contain Vermiculite, EPA, August 2000 ). Four of these products contained SUBSTANTIAL amounts of asbestos: Schultz's Horticultural Vermiculite Earthgro's Best Vermiculite, Hoffman's Vermiculite Ace Horticultural Grade Vermiculite -- Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to Visit my Rhododendron and Azalea web pages at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman/rhody.html Also visit the Rhododendron and Azalea Bookstore at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman/rhodybooks.html Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA USA http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman |
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Vermiculite now illegal?
Jan Flora wrote:
My mom, a lifelong nurseryman, has COPD now. She's on oxygen 24/7, since age 74. She's 78 now. The MD's think it's because of lifelong exposure to vermiculite in her greenhouses. She never smoked and was never around smokers. She's an RN. I'm a smoker. Second hand smoke may have contributed also. |
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Vermiculite now illegal?
The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) found trace
amounts of asbestos in 17 of 38 products tested ( Sampling and Analysis of Consumer Garden Products that Contain Vermiculite, EPA, August 2000 ). Four of these products contained SUBSTANTIAL amounts of asbestos: Schultz's Horticultural Vermiculite Earthgro's Best Vermiculite, Hoffman's Vermiculite Ace Horticultural Grade Vermiculite -- Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to Visit my Rhododendron and Azalea web pages at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman/rhody.html Also visit the Rhododendron and Azalea Bookstore at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman/rhodybooks.html Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA USA http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman |
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