We have a big tree in the yard, it's roots are moving the fence,
breaking concrete walkaways, etc.
Is there any way to fix this without cutting the tree down? It is
close the the house, and we are now seeing cracks in the garage's
floor.

(Person Person) in
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We have a big tree in the yard, it's roots are moving the fence,
breaking concrete walkaways, etc.
Is there any way to fix this without cutting the tree down?

i can't imagine how. i'd take it out asap.

It is
close the the house, and we are now seeing cracks in the garage's
floor.


migth have to relevel (pump sand or grout under slab/s) and maybe seal
the slab/s. i'm not a contr, but i think they'd be in the "foundatoins"
listing in yellow pages.

get moe info on other ngs, home.repair, etc

Just fix the sidewalk - we do this all the time. Trees are usually the wrong
species for the site when this sort of thing occurs.

Repair the walk, perhaps build the repaired section on a special mix
(structural soil) that is used for trees under pavement. Reset the fence.
Crack sin the slab at the garage may be from settling as well as roots of
trees.

Everything is a tradeoff.

--
Mike LaMana, MS
Heartwood Consulting Services, LLC
Toms River, NJ
www.HeartwoodConsulting.net



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(Person Person) in
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We have a big tree in the yard, it's roots are moving the fence,
breaking concrete walkaways, etc.
Is there any way to fix this without cutting the tree down?

i can't imagine how. i'd take it out asap.

It is
close the the house, and we are now seeing cracks in the garage's
floor.


migth have to relevel (pump sand or grout under slab/s) and maybe seal
the slab/s. i'm not a contr, but i think they'd be in the "foundatoins"
listing in yellow pages.

get moe info on other ngs, home.repair, etc

"Mike LaMana" fake@MikeatHeartwoodConsultingdotnet in
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Just fix the sidewalk - we do this all the time. Trees are usually the
wrong species for the site when this sort of thing occurs.

Repair the walk, perhaps build the repaired section on a special mix
(structural soil) that is used for trees under pavement.

*this* is very interesting. packing new 'soil' around mature roots.

how many years later have you observed results?

how often and extensively (percentage of perimeter, depth, distance,
approximate!) have you done this?


Reset the
fence.

if anything :-)

Crack sin the slab at the garage may be from settling as well
as roots of trees.


true. we haven't seen the situation. if the tree is within ten feet of
the cracking region, i'd suspect the tree!

Everything is a tradeoff.

There are protocols for adding soil to mature trees to accommodate the
changes in grade. The results vary with the species of tree, root
morphology, texture and chemistry of existing soil, etc. It can be done on
the entirety of the tree critical root-zone, but if grade change is dramatic
other technologies beside structural soils need to be used.

If done properly success rates are near 100%. Some projects I have seen 3-6
years later are doing fine.

--
Mike LaMana, MS
Heartwood Consulting Services, LLC
Toms River, NJ
www.HeartwoodConsulting.net




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"Mike LaMana" fake@MikeatHeartwoodConsultingdotnet in
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Just fix the sidewalk - we do this all the time. Trees are usually the
wrong species for the site when this sort of thing occurs.

Repair the walk, perhaps build the repaired section on a special mix
(structural soil) that is used for trees under pavement.

*this* is very interesting. packing new 'soil' around mature roots.

how many years later have you observed results?

how often and extensively (percentage of perimeter, depth, distance,
approximate!) have you done this?


Reset the
fence.

if anything :-)

Crack sin the slab at the garage may be from settling as well
as roots of trees.


true. we haven't seen the situation. if the tree is within ten feet of
the cracking region, i'd suspect the tree!

Everything is a tradeoff.

On 11 May 2004 12:06:25 -0700, (Person Person)
wrote:

We have a big tree in the yard, it's roots are moving the fence,
breaking concrete walkaways, etc.
Is there any way to fix this without cutting the tree down? It is
close the the house, and we are now seeing cracks in the garage's
floor.

You can cut out the roots doing the damage, but that may (or may not)
kill the tree, which will then have to be cut down before it falls
down. I'd say a monster tree that's wrecking your infrastructure
should be removed ASAP. It's not going to stop on its own, and
repairing present damage will not prevent future problems.

I am very interested in this option, thank you for letting me know.
I guess we will have to call an arborist to evaluate our situation -
would an arborist know about those protocols you have mentioned?
So we'll have to compare the cost of re-paving with the cost of taking
the tree down.
It's an OK tree, quite messy actually, constantly dropping leaves, but
it does provide shade and privacy, I would prefer to save it if we
can.
The grade change is NOT dramatic, but enough to crack a concrete slab
all the way through, and get two parts of the fence completely
mis-aligned.
Thank you,
MY

"Mike LaMana" fake@MikeatHeartwoodConsultingdotnet wrote in message ...
There are protocols for adding soil to mature trees to accommodate the
changes in grade. The results vary with the species of tree, root
morphology, texture and chemistry of existing soil, etc. It can be done on
the entirety of the tree critical root-zone, but if grade change is dramatic
other technologies beside structural soils need to be used.

If done properly success rates are near 100%. Some projects I have seen 3-6
years later are doing fine.

--
Mike LaMana, MS
Heartwood Consulting Services, LLC
Toms River, NJ
www.HeartwoodConsulting.net

http://www.ext.vt.edu/pubs/trees/430-028/430-028.html

Alternatives to pavement repair involve the initial use of, or replacement with, other paving materials. One alternative is
landscape pavers, porous concrete pavers that can also be used for parking lot surfaces instead of solid asphalt or concrete. A
second alternative, still being developed in California, is the use of rubber sidewalks. Rubber sidewalks, made from compressed,
recycled crumb rubber (mainly from recycled tires) provide malleable paving surfaces that give way to invasive tree roots.
Rubber sidewalks are cost-effective and aesthetically acceptable alternatives to conventional paving materials. Though rubber
sidewalks may bend a bit out of shape in response to aggressive roots they do not create abrupt edges over which pedestrians
might trip, and they provide a softer surface should someone fall on them.

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