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Steve wrote:
Greenlight products (along with the Portrait Weed Screen) can be
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Are you affiliated with them?
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Steve said:

"Peter Pan" wrote in
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I am trying to grow fescue, I had a nice THICK lawn a few years ago.
The Problem as I see it is my neighbor who is LAZY when it comes to
yard work allows his yard to grow anything that will germinate
i.e.crab grass, I think the spoors were able to blow into my yard and
I developed a bad crab grass problem. I never put a crab grass
prevention down so I basically played catch up all summer and needless
to say my yard was no longer the thick beautiful lawn, I had a yard
with crab grass. Should I stay with the Scotts products or change to
something else? And where do I get the Green Light crab grass
prevention? Thanks
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Peter Pan wrote:

I live in NJ and recently purchased some Scotts Fertilizer
30-3-4(Blue bag) from Lowes, the woman working there said that is
what's needed for this time of year. I came home with the Scotts
and some Lime and applied both to my lawn. Later that day it began
to drizzle and continued with the light rain for the remainder of
the day.

you were so well blessed to receive a light slow drizzling
rain on the very day just after making the fertilizer application.
the water begins the process of breaking the fertilizer down and
making it available to the grass as plant food.

Do I need to re-apply the Scotts or will my
lawn be ok?

no, just go out and brag to all your friends of how you received
a light slow drizzling rain on the very day just after making the
fertilizer application. g




My second question is what is the next thing I should do for my
lawn?

what's your over all objective for your lawn and what type of
grass are you growing?


If you have crabgrass, a crabgrass preventer like Green Light.
Should be applied when the forthisia blooms, because that is an
indication of the soil being warm enough for the crabgrass seeds to
begin to germinate. Re apply one May 15th, because it can germinate
in different times on different parts of your lawn (cooler areas).
You might also want to put down a weed screen product. I use
Portrait.



I think I would avoid Scotts.


Nothing wrong with Scott's program, AFAICT. It works fine for me, and many
I know.

I think the fertilizer especially is a
quick releasing product, which makes your lawn grow super fast in the
spring, then looses it's punch in the summer.


All cool season grasses "lose their punch" in the summer, DUH. Did you even
bother to READ the OP's reply:
Message-ID:

"I am trying to grow fescue..."

Do you not think that it's going to "lose it's punch" in the summer?

I follow a lawn plan by a
local garden nursery near in Northern Maryland called Carroll Gardens.
He has a radio program on from 7-9 here in the Baltimore area on AM680.
His plan includes Turf Trust fertilizer, which is really an awesome
product. I have used it for years now. Once you establish your lawn,
you will only need to feed it 3 times a year, and it will encourage new
growth of your seed,


Who the fsck let's their lawn go to seed?

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Eggs Zachtly wrote:

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Who the fsck let's their lawn go to seed?


some great success has been had with allowing Bermuda to
produce seed in the early season by not cutting it until
well after the seeds are mature. then using a planned
dispersion with a side discharge mower one can control
the reseeding distribution. follow the mowing with a
star tooth aerator and presto the lawn has been reseeded
in a most cost effective manner.
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Jim said:

Eggs Zachtly wrote:

[....]

Who the fsck let's their lawn go to seed?


some great success has been had with allowing Bermuda to
produce seed in the early season by not cutting it until
well after the seeds are mature. then using a planned
dispersion with a side discharge mower one can control
the reseeding distribution. follow the mowing with a
star tooth aerator and presto the lawn has been reseeded
in a most cost effective manner.


Here, Bermuda is an incessant weed. It's growing season is too short to
establish itself as a turf grass. And, again, the OP stated they wanted to
grow Fescue. =P

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Eggs Zachtly wrote:

Jim said:
Eggs Zachtly wrote:

[....]

Who the fsck let's their lawn go to seed?


some great success has been had with allowing Bermuda to
produce seed in the early season by not cutting it until
well after the seeds are mature. then using a planned
dispersion with a side discharge mower one can control
the reseeding distribution. follow the mowing with a
star tooth aerator and presto the lawn has been reseeded
in a most cost effective manner.


Here, Bermuda is an incessant weed. It's growing season is too short to
establish itself as a turf grass. And, again, the OP stated they wanted to
grow Fescue. =P


here in the south Bermuda is an excellent choice when high
traffic is a concern. the stuff is almost indestructible.
lots of the golf courses here use Bermuda because it will
hold up under the tough conditions present on the high
traffic areas. my dislike for Bermuda is how it goes brown
during cool and cold weather. though requiring more care my
preference is fescue.

due to the location of the OP their choice of fescue is a
far better choice that Bermuda.


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On Mar 28, 9:07 pm, Eggs Zachtly wrote:
Steve said:





"Peter Pan" wrote in
:


I am trying to grow fescue, I had a nice THICK lawn a few years ago.
The Problem as I see it is my neighbor who is LAZY when it comes to
yard work allows his yard to grow anything that will germinate
i.e.crab grass, I think the spoors were able to blow into my yard and
I developed a bad crab grass problem. I never put a crab grass
prevention down so I basically played catch up all summer and needless
to say my yard was no longer the thick beautiful lawn, I had a yard
with crab grass. Should I stay with the Scotts products or change to
something else? And where do I get the Green Light crab grass
prevention? Thanks
"Steve" wrote in message
7.142...
Jim wrote in
:


Peter Pan wrote:


I live in NJ and recently purchased some Scotts Fertilizer
30-3-4(Blue bag) from Lowes, the woman working there said that is
what's needed for this time of year. I came home with the Scotts
and some Lime and applied both to my lawn. Later that day it began
to drizzle and continued with the light rain for the remainder of
the day.


you were so well blessed to receive a light slow drizzling
rain on the very day just after making the fertilizer application.
the water begins the process of breaking the fertilizer down and
making it available to the grass as plant food.


Do I need to re-apply the Scotts or will my
lawn be ok?


no, just go out and brag to all your friends of how you received
a light slow drizzling rain on the very day just after making the
fertilizer application. g


My second question is what is the next thing I should do for my
lawn?


what's your over all objective for your lawn and what type of
grass are you growing?


If you have crabgrass, a crabgrass preventer like Green Light.
Should be applied when the forthisia blooms, because that is an
indication of the soil being warm enough for the crabgrass seeds to
begin to germinate. Re apply one May 15th, because it can germinate
in different times on different parts of your lawn (cooler areas).
You might also want to put down a weed screen product. I use
Portrait.


I think I would avoid Scotts.


Nothing wrong with Scott's program, AFAICT. It works fine for me, and many
I know.



I agree. There are less expensive alternatives, but Scott's products
are excellent. The only issue
I have with Scotts is that they over market their 4 step crap. For
example, they tell everyone
to put down weed n feed, whether they really need it or not. In many
cases, some simple
spot treatment of weeds is more effective and better for the
environment.




I think the fertilizer especially is a
quick releasing product, which makes your lawn grow super fast in the
spring, then looses it's punch in the summer.


All cool season grasses "lose their punch" in the summer, DUH. Did you even
bother to READ the OP's reply:
Message-ID:

"I am trying to grow fescue..."

Do you not think that it's going to "lose it's punch" in the summer?



Beside the cool season grass issue, I don't know what kind of
fertilizer he expects to
put down in Spring and still have it being effective in July/Aug.






I follow a lawn plan by a
local garden nursery near in Northern Maryland called Carroll Gardens.
He has a radio program on from 7-9 here in the Baltimore area on AM680.
His plan includes Turf Trust fertilizer, which is really an awesome
product. I have used it for years now. Once you establish your lawn,
you will only need to feed it 3 times a year, and it will encourage new
growth of your seed,


Who the fsck let's their lawn go to seed?



Only need to feed it 3 times a year, because this product is so
special? Scotts
or similar turf fertilizer only needs to be applied 3 times a year to
produce excellent
results. Maybe his lawn epiphany has less to do with the product and
more from going
from over fertilizing in summer to a more reasonable application.



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