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Are any orchids poisonous?
I know that some orchids are edible, but are any of them poisonous? or have
poisonous parts? Joanna |
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Are any orchids poisonous?
The American Medical Association Handbook of Poisonous and Injurious Plants
does not list any member of the family Orchidaceae as being poisonous. In other locations online you can learn that some are said to cause allergic skin responses. Cypripedium reginia comes to mind. Elsewhere and even here in our very own archives you can learn Onc. cebollata is said to be an hallucinogen. From my point of view all orchids cause the hullucination that you have unlimited amounts of money and space. However, I don't think you have to eat one to get hullucinogized. I think you just need to see one. "J Fortuna" wrote in message news:5Y2Gf.135062$7l4.49484@trnddc05... I know that some orchids are edible, but are any of them poisonous? or have poisonous parts? Joanna |
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J Fortuna wrote: I know that some orchids are edible, but are any of them poisonous? or have poisonous parts? Before or after spraying? (annoying emoticon here) Some orchids smell so foul I can't imagine anyone would want to eat them, but I don't recall reading that any are actually poisonous. I also rasie cycads. Every part of every cycad is toxic.. Yes, some cultures eat leached cycad starch, but there are long term toxic effects associated with eating it that include a form of senile dementia, a type of amyotrophic lateral sclerosis and cancer. J. Del Col |
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"Al" wrote in message
... From my point of view all orchids cause the hullucination that you have unlimited amounts of money and space. However, I don't think you have to eat one to get hullucinogized. I think you just need to see one. LOL. I think you are right about that. Thanks Al. Joanna |
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Eforba ouya akema anea orchidea aladsa orfa abyba Obertra, ouya ightma antma
ota erifyva hatta heta forementionedaa "American Medical Association Handbook of Poisonous and Injurious Plants" ctuallyaa aysa. I don't know what it really says about orchid plants. All of my knowledge comes from the internet and somebody on the internet told me what it says. For what it's worth, this handbook does sound like the most reliable source of info on the topic. Especially first hand, "trust the baby's life to it" info. My spell checker has a pig-latin plug in. "J Fortuna" wrote in message news:6o5Gf.12526$%i3.11365@trnddc02... "Al" wrote in message ... From my point of view all orchids cause the hullucination that you have unlimited amounts of money and space. However, I don't think you have to eat one to get hullucinogized. I think you just need to see one. LOL. I think you are right about that. Thanks Al. Joanna |
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"jadel" wrote in message oups.com... Before or after spraying? (annoying emoticon here) snip As I do not do any spraying of the plants in our condo, that's not applicable for me. However I was astounded to read in the book Orchid Fever about the young man in Paris, France, who lived in a small apartment with his mother and his orchids, and who sprayed the orchids regularly with lots of pesticide. Yikes. By the way, related question: Is plant food poisonous when ingested by humans? I assume that it is better to keep it out of the way of toddlers, but unlike on cleaning supply bottles I did not see a poison warning on its label when I looked earlier today. So I wonder ... Not that I will encourage his eating it, mind you, but I am starting to wonder which household items will absolutely have to be put out of any possible reach, and which are optional. So far, as far as I can tell, Robert will probably be a much greater danger to the orchids than they will be to him. The greatest dangers to toddler from orchids that I see thus far a 1. lights and electric cords leading to lights, 2. shelving units will need to be stable and secure so that they do not topple, 3. chocking hazard posed by media, 4. if a clay pot were to topple and fall on the toddler, some of them are quite heavy so he could get hurt that way, and 5. if plant food is poisonous after all then that's an issue. Am I missing something? Joanna |
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Al wrote:
From my point of view all orchids cause the hullucination that you have unlimited amounts of money and space. However, I don't think you have to eat one to get hullucinogized. I think you just need to see one. I think it's some sort of shooting dart. Hit me on the back side. |
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Are any orchids poisonous?
By the way, related question: Is plant food poisonous when ingested by humans? I assume that it is better to keep it out of the way of toddlers, but unlike on cleaning supply bottles I did not see a poison warning on its label when I looked earlier today. So I wonder ... Not that I will encourage his eating it, mind you, but I am starting to wonder which household items will absolutely have to be put out of any possible reach, and which are optional. I think it would be a very bad idea to eat fertilizer powder... Although it would taste awful. Acutely toxic? Maybe. A complete fertilizer has a lot of things in it (potassium/phosphorus, nickel, etc...) many of which are toxic in small quantity (selenium is not something you want to eat). I don't know if you could choke down enough fertilizer to hurt yourself (or a small person), but I wouldn't try it. The liquid formulations might be dilute enough as to cause little harm, but again I wouldn't risk it. So far, as far as I can tell, Robert will probably be a much greater danger to the orchids than they will be to him. The greatest dangers to toddler from orchids that I see thus far a 1. lights and electric cords leading to lights, 2. shelving units will need to be stable and secure so that they do not topple, 3. chocking hazard posed by media, 4. if a clay pot were to topple and fall on the toddler, some of them are quite heavy so he could get hurt that way, and 5. if plant food is poisonous after all then that's an issue. Am I missing something? Toddlers like to remove tags from pots. I don't know why. My daughter routinely runs up to me with a tag as a present. Sometimes I even know where to put it back. She has never tried to eat potting media. An occasional rock might get a taste, but I think girls are smarter than boys. Or have better survival instincts. Evidently my brothers and I ate all sorts of rocks and coins when we were that age. Rob -- Rob's Rules: http://littlefrogfarm.com 1) There is always room for one more orchid 2) There is always room for two more orchids 2a) See rule 1 3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more orchids, obtain more credit |
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Amazingly enough, this subject came up recently among the members of AOBEI.
A woman who'd bought some fertilizer from one of our members called her a couple weeks later to ask if it was poisonous, because she had accidentally drank (drunk? G) some. Having no idea, the grower told the customer to call Poison Control -- who advised that unless she drank a whole gallon, it shouldn't be a problem. Apparently, it happens quite often -- I'm given to understand that some folks actually keep the fert. solution in the refrigerator "so it won't go bad." Not an idea that would ever have occurred to me ... But it does go to prove the saying that things can't be made idiot-proof, because the idiots are too ingenious! Kenni Kenni "Rob" wrote in message ... By the way, related question: Is plant food poisonous when ingested by humans? I assume that it is better to keep it out of the way of toddlers, but unlike on cleaning supply bottles I did not see a poison warning on its label when I looked earlier today. So I wonder ... Not that I will encourage his eating it, mind you, but I am starting to wonder which household items will absolutely have to be put out of any possible reach, and which are optional. I think it would be a very bad idea to eat fertilizer powder... Although it would taste awful. Acutely toxic? Maybe. A complete fertilizer has a lot of things in it (potassium/phosphorus, nickel, etc...) many of which are toxic in small quantity (selenium is not something you want to eat). I don't know if you could choke down enough fertilizer to hurt yourself (or a small person), but I wouldn't try it. The liquid formulations might be dilute enough as to cause little harm, but again I wouldn't risk it. So far, as far as I can tell, Robert will probably be a much greater danger to the orchids than they will be to him. The greatest dangers to toddler from orchids that I see thus far a 1. lights and electric cords leading to lights, 2. shelving units will need to be stable and secure so that they do not topple, 3. chocking hazard posed by media, 4. if a clay pot were to topple and fall on the toddler, some of them are quite heavy so he could get hurt that way, and 5. if plant food is poisonous after all then that's an issue. Am I missing something? Toddlers like to remove tags from pots. I don't know why. My daughter routinely runs up to me with a tag as a present. Sometimes I even know where to put it back. She has never tried to eat potting media. An occasional rock might get a taste, but I think girls are smarter than boys. Or have better survival instincts. Evidently my brothers and I ate all sorts of rocks and coins when we were that age. Rob -- Rob's Rules: http://littlefrogfarm.com 1) There is always room for one more orchid 2) There is always room for two more orchids 2a) See rule 1 3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more orchids, obtain more credit |
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Are any orchids poisonous?
Kenni,
Great, thanks! Though it would never have occurred to me either to store fert solution in refrigerator, I did have one time when I wondered about a gallon of bottled water that I had left on the kitchen counter near the sink whether it truly was bottled water or fertilized water -- since I use a bottled water container for the fert solution. :-( I decided that it was probably fert solution, and if it was not, I would just water my orchids with bottled water which was the better alternative by far. Joanna "Kenni Judd" wrote in message ... Amazingly enough, this subject came up recently among the members of AOBEI. A woman who'd bought some fertilizer from one of our members called her a couple weeks later to ask if it was poisonous, because she had accidentally drank (drunk? G) some. Having no idea, the grower told the customer to call Poison Control -- who advised that unless she drank a whole gallon, it shouldn't be a problem. Apparently, it happens quite often -- I'm given to understand that some folks actually keep the fert. solution in the refrigerator "so it won't go bad." Not an idea that would ever have occurred to me ... But it does go to prove the saying that things can't be made idiot-proof, because the idiots are too ingenious! Kenni Kenni "Rob" wrote in message ... By the way, related question: Is plant food poisonous when ingested by humans? I assume that it is better to keep it out of the way of toddlers, but unlike on cleaning supply bottles I did not see a poison warning on its label when I looked earlier today. So I wonder ... Not that I will encourage his eating it, mind you, but I am starting to wonder which household items will absolutely have to be put out of any possible reach, and which are optional. I think it would be a very bad idea to eat fertilizer powder... Although it would taste awful. Acutely toxic? Maybe. A complete fertilizer has a lot of things in it (potassium/phosphorus, nickel, etc...) many of which are toxic in small quantity (selenium is not something you want to eat). I don't know if you could choke down enough fertilizer to hurt yourself (or a small person), but I wouldn't try it. The liquid formulations might be dilute enough as to cause little harm, but again I wouldn't risk it. So far, as far as I can tell, Robert will probably be a much greater danger to the orchids than they will be to him. The greatest dangers to toddler from orchids that I see thus far a 1. lights and electric cords leading to lights, 2. shelving units will need to be stable and secure so that they do not topple, 3. chocking hazard posed by media, 4. if a clay pot were to topple and fall on the toddler, some of them are quite heavy so he could get hurt that way, and 5. if plant food is poisonous after all then that's an issue. Am I missing something? Toddlers like to remove tags from pots. I don't know why. My daughter routinely runs up to me with a tag as a present. Sometimes I even know where to put it back. She has never tried to eat potting media. An occasional rock might get a taste, but I think girls are smarter than boys. Or have better survival instincts. Evidently my brothers and I ate all sorts of rocks and coins when we were that age. Rob -- Rob's Rules: http://littlefrogfarm.com 1) There is always room for one more orchid 2) There is always room for two more orchids 2a) See rule 1 3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more orchids, obtain more credit |
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Are any orchids poisonous?
Well, even if the plant isn't deadly, and your fertilizer isn't deadly,
you still don't know what the previous owner has done insofaras spraying, etc., and what contaminants might be in the media or on the leaves. In the past, I've been rather cavalier about toxic substances--BUT since I've garnered cats (one of whom like to use orchid leaves as floss), I'm more cautious. I repot plants when I get them and don't use pesticides as a free-for-all spray. I'm not sure WHY you want to know whether orchids are poisonous, but if you're having a party and want to use orchid flowers as platter garnishes, you might want to rethink. |
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Are any orchids poisonous?
"OrchidKitty" wrote in message
ups.com... I'm not sure WHY you want to know whether orchids are poisonous, but if you're having a party and want to use orchid flowers as platter garnishes, you might want to rethink. OrchidKitty, No platter garnishes. The reason why I want to know is that I am starting to plan ahead for the stage in my child's life when he will want to put everything in his mouth while he explores it -- so far he is 6 weeks old and mostly harmless, but I am told by more experienced parents that the time when he will be into everything will come much quicker than I think and that I will be amazed by how far he can reach how fast. In general, I am going to try to keep the orchids out of his reach, but I would rather know the consequences of it if I don't succeed, just in case. Well, even if the plant isn't deadly, and your fertilizer isn't deadly, you still don't know what the previous owner has done insofaras spraying, etc., and what contaminants might be in the media or on the leaves. Hmm, I had not thought of that. How long does pesticide stay in plant matter and media? I had kind of assumed that with thorough flushing during watering etc the sins of the previous owner's don't really count except for really new plants, as long as I don't use pesticides myself. If I did not repot orchids as soon as I got them in the past, would you suggest that I repot all the ones that have not been repotted in my care yet? or only ones not repotted yet and gotten in the past 2 months, 6 months or 1 year or ??? Joanna |
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Are any orchids poisonous?
I can't speak to the matter of toxicity, but as to using orchid flowers as
garnish, I do it all the time, usually giving them a coating of egg white, a dip in fine sugar, and letting them dry on a rack. They give a real boost to the presentation of a fancy dessert. No one has died, LOL, but then, adults know better than to eat them! Diana |
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I don't know how long pesticides, etc. stay in plant matter and
media--but I know someone who does. You might want to contact Glen Decker of Piping Rock Orchids ) and ask him. He grows thousands of slippers (of exceptional quality) and has small children. He's pesticide free and knows much about the dangers of pesticides. He's a nice man and very willing to share what he knows. BTW, Congrats on the little one, Mom. |
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Are any orchids poisonous?
Well, you never know. A few glasses of wine and.... Actually, we went
to a cat show in Boston, and there were a lot of vendors there, as one might expect. One of the cat food companies had a huge bowl of kitty kibble on display. We saw a bored-husband type walk by the the bowl, scoop up a handful of kibble, and chomp it down. Hello dude! It's a cat show...what you're eating isn't crackers du jour--it's cat food. Yikes. |
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