My Hiroshi Tokunaga, another hirsute, has a keike habit as well. Go figure.

Diana

Diane,

Actually, in the late fall and winter months, when the plants need it the
most, we do get a good diurnal range. The Phals love it. As for the
occasional frost (never really a freeze around here), it's rare, but did
happen last winter. Hoping for better this time. My back can't take moving
all those plants around (I have a Den. discolor that's taller than my
husband, and he's 6'3", so you can imagine what it weighs), and you're right
about the dining room table. And the floor. And the coffee table in the
living room. And around the roman tub in the master bath. And under the
windows in the family room. Etc!

All of which is why we're looking at a way to provide some warmth outside
this year, if we need to. Probably a combination of water and light or
propane heater.

Diana

I'd think something like a 2x4 frame bench/greenhouse that you could put
plastic around- if the temp is getting too cold around you could tape up
Styrofoam sheets that would come down when the cold snap leaves. At least
some of the orchids could stay outside and you just bring in your warm
lovers. Store the stro walls with your hurricane lumber

I cant get more orchids than my plant corner can hold. My husband thinks my
40 is too much already although small and mostly free. Bewildering- I could
bring home 10 flats of annuals that die -no problem
"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
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Diane,

Actually, in the late fall and winter months, when the plants need it the
most, we do get a good diurnal range. The Phals love it. As for the
occasional frost (never really a freeze around here), it's rare, but did
happen last winter. Hoping for better this time. My back can't take
moving
all those plants around (I have a Den. discolor that's taller than my
husband, and he's 6'3", so you can imagine what it weighs), and you're
right
about the dining room table. And the floor. And the coffee table in the
living room. And around the roman tub in the master bath. And under the
windows in the family room. Etc!

All of which is why we're looking at a way to provide some warmth outside
this year, if we need to. Probably a combination of water and light or
propane heater.

Diana

Diana, what about those heating cables, I have some in my greenhouse for the
few phals,
for extra warmth. You can connect them to a timer & they do keep the pots
warm.
I got mine from Charleys but you can probably find them in your neck of the
woods.
Cheers Wendy

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
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Diane,

Actually, in the late fall and winter months, when the plants need it the
most, we do get a good diurnal range. The Phals love it. As for the
occasional frost (never really a freeze around here), it's rare, but did
happen last winter. Hoping for better this time. My back can't take
moving
all those plants around (I have a Den. discolor that's taller than my
husband, and he's 6'3", so you can imagine what it weighs), and you're
right
about the dining room table. And the floor. And the coffee table in the
living room. And around the roman tub in the master bath. And under the
windows in the family room. Etc!

All of which is why we're looking at a way to provide some warmth outside
this year, if we need to. Probably a combination of water and light or
propane heater.

Diana

Lots are small here - no room for another structure. But Frank has some
ideas for temporary enclosure of the lanai addition if we need it. I mean,
if it gets too cold we're talking a few days, not weeks or months. All will
be well.

Diana

"Diane Mancino" wrote in message
t...
I'd think something like a 2x4 frame bench/greenhouse that you could put
plastic around- if the temp is getting too cold around you could tape up
Styrofoam sheets that would come down when the cold snap leaves. At least
some of the orchids could stay outside and you just bring in your warm
lovers. Store the stro walls with your hurricane lumber

I cant get more orchids than my plant corner can hold. My husband thinks
my
40 is too much already although small and mostly free. Bewildering- I
could
bring home 10 flats of annuals that die -no problem
"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
thlink.net...
Diane,

Actually, in the late fall and winter months, when the plants need it
the
most, we do get a good diurnal range. The Phals love it. As for the
occasional frost (never really a freeze around here), it's rare, but did
happen last winter. Hoping for better this time. My back can't take
moving
all those plants around (I have a Den. discolor that's taller than my
husband, and he's 6'3", so you can imagine what it weighs), and you're
right
about the dining room table. And the floor. And the coffee table in
the
living room. And around the roman tub in the master bath. And under
the
windows in the family room. Etc!

All of which is why we're looking at a way to provide some warmth
outside
this year, if we need to. Probably a combination of water and light or
propane heater.

Diana

Wendy,

Actually, Frank has some heat units that sit under the pots - he used to use
them to start veggie plants inside when we lived in CT. And weatherproof
cables are certainly another possibility.

Diana

"Wendy" wrote in message
news:waKTa.24066$Ne.8899@fed1read03...
Diana, what about those heating cables, I have some in my greenhouse for
the
few phals,
for extra warmth. You can connect them to a timer & they do keep the pots
warm.
I got mine from Charleys but you can probably find them in your neck of
the
woods.
Cheers Wendy

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
thlink.net...
Diane,

Actually, in the late fall and winter months, when the plants need it
the
most, we do get a good diurnal range. The Phals love it. As for the
occasional frost (never really a freeze around here), it's rare, but did
happen last winter. Hoping for better this time. My back can't take
moving
all those plants around (I have a Den. discolor that's taller than my
husband, and he's 6'3", so you can imagine what it weighs), and you're
right
about the dining room table. And the floor. And the coffee table in
the
living room. And around the roman tub in the master bath. And under
the
windows in the family room. Etc!

All of which is why we're looking at a way to provide some warmth
outside
this year, if we need to. Probably a combination of water and light or
propane heater.

Diana

By heating cables do you mean the same as does used in an aquarium?
Peter
"Wendy" schreef in bericht
news:waKTa.24066$Ne.8899@fed1read03...
Diana, what about those heating cables, I have some in my greenhouse for
the
few phals,
for extra warmth. You can connect them to a timer & they do keep the pots
warm.
I got mine from Charleys but you can probably find them in your neck of
the
woods.
Cheers Wendy

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
thlink.net...
Diane,

Actually, in the late fall and winter months, when the plants need it
the
most, we do get a good diurnal range. The Phals love it. As for the
occasional frost (never really a freeze around here), it's rare, but did
happen last winter. Hoping for better this time. My back can't take
moving
all those plants around (I have a Den. discolor that's taller than my
husband, and he's 6'3", so you can imagine what it weighs), and you're
right
about the dining room table. And the floor. And the coffee table in
the
living room. And around the roman tub in the master bath. And under
the
windows in the family room. Etc!

All of which is why we're looking at a way to provide some warmth
outside
this year, if we need to. Probably a combination of water and light or
propane heater.

Diana

Thanks for answering the next question I was composing in my head all day
today. I just don't think it has been getting the light it needs indoors
this summer. We have been getting an awful lot of rain here in the Tampa
area, and many of the days have only a few hours of sun, mostly in early
morning, so the phal may be getting some light, but not as much as it
probably should. I've been thinking of moving it to a spot close to the
house near the northeast corner, which would only get sun for a couple of
hours, and then, as you pointed out, filtered through the screen. And as
for humidity......right now it is 94%. And since the temp at night won't be
in the 50s until sometime in November, we should be in good shape for some
time to come. I will move it today.



"Myrmecodia" wrote in message
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"Shea" wrote in message
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This is great information. Thanks so much. I'll move the phal closer
to
the light. The coffee table is about 6 ft. from the sliding doors, but
since the doors lead to a covered screened porch, you are probably right
about the light. Also, it has been a crummy summer sunshine-wise.

If you have a covered, screened porch, I would move the Phalaenopsis
out there. Just put it on the side of the porch that gets the least
direct sun. IIRC insect netting acts roughly like 50% shade cloth,
but even so, direct sun will be too much for a Phal. The Phalaenopsis
will greatly appreciate the increased humidity outdoors at this time
of year, and you may see much better root growth. If you leave it out
in the porch until night temperatures start to drop into the 50's this
autumn, you may well get better flower production next year.

Nick

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On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:59:33 GMT, "Shea"
wrote:

clip I've been thinking of moving it to a spot close to the
house near the northeast corner, which would only get sun for a couple of
hours, and then, as you pointed out, filtered through the screen. And as
for humidity......right now it is 94%. And since the temp at night won't be
in the 50s until sometime in November, we should be in good shape for some
time to come. I will move it today.


I would not put a Phal outside unless you have complete shade
from 10 to 6 and only dappled sun before that. They do not want
direct sun. They want bright light, Not sun.
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

Okay, I'll watch for a day or two and see exactly what that spot is getting
and when before doing anything. Thanks for the warning, Susan.


"Susan Erickson" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:59:33 GMT, "Shea"
wrote:

clip I've been thinking of moving it to a spot close to the
house near the northeast corner, which would only get sun for a couple of
hours, and then, as you pointed out, filtered through the screen. And
as
for humidity......right now it is 94%. And since the temp at night won't
be
in the 50s until sometime in November, we should be in good shape for
some
time to come. I will move it today.


I would not put a Phal outside unless you have complete shade
from 10 to 6 and only dappled sun before that. They do not want
direct sun. They want bright light, Not sun.
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

Peter,

No. Actually, I think 'cables' was a misleading word. What I'm really
thinking of is pads that have heat elements running through them. There was
a discussion some time back about this. I'm going to research the subject
on Google.

Diana

Thanks, I asked because I'm looking for a way to heat my minigreenhouse
during the winter. I know that some years back there were cabels used in
aquariums and terrariums. I'm hoping they can be used in my improvised
greenhouse.
Pete
"Diana Kulaga" schreef in bericht
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Peter,

No. Actually, I think 'cables' was a misleading word. What I'm really
thinking of is pads that have heat elements running through them. There
was
a discussion some time back about this. I'm going to research the subject
on Google.

Diana