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vandas light level
I am in Santa Barbara California. I have a couple of questions about
Vandas? 1. Can Vandas take full sun here? 2. What is minimum temperature. We get down to 30F at times, but next to house probably no lower than 38F. I wanted to find out if I caould keep the Vandas outside year round. I keep all my other orchids inside right next to a SW facing window with a shade cloth over the window, water very very thoroughly once a week and they do well producing continuous flowers. ( not on the same plant ! ). I fertilize by a spray once a month at about 1/4 strength using Peter's Orchid food . Any help on Vanda's in this area would be most appreciated. Thank you , ( if possible please email directly as well as posting to this group.) |
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vandas light level
With proper case selection you could grow some vandaceous orchids outside,
however IMHO they'd do better with some protection from the cold and shadecloth. Anything with sanderiana in the background will want more warmth. Some of the interesting crosses with other non-sanderiana species might work. Reportedly coerulea crosses take more cool temps, but IMHO that means the cooler side of warm rather than cool itself. In anycase, even the Thais use shadecloth. K Barrett "ron doctors" wrote in message om... I am in Santa Barbara California. I have a couple of questions about Vandas? 1. Can Vandas take full sun here? 2. What is minimum temperature. We get down to 30F at times, but next to house probably no lower than 38F. I wanted to find out if I caould keep the Vandas outside year round. I keep all my other orchids inside right next to a SW facing window with a shade cloth over the window, water very very thoroughly once a week and they do well producing continuous flowers. ( not on the same plant ! ). I fertilize by a spray once a month at about 1/4 strength using Peter's Orchid food . Any help on Vanda's in this area would be most appreciated. Thank you , ( if possible please email directly as well as posting to this group.) |
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I agree with what K Barrett said. I wouldn't advise growing any vandas below
45-50 deg F. Those in the low temp range would be hybrids using V coerulea. The sun strength here in southern SC is similiar to yours. All of our vandas take full sun from Oct to April. From May to Sept they all go under 20% shade. The terete -leaved vandas stay under these conditions. The strap-leaved ones get an additional 20% shade for the months of June-August. This includes the vandaceous hybrids such as Ascocendas. The bright light and fertilizer gives you the blooms. I'm sure you could give less light and they would survive (may or may not bloom), or more light where they may do just as well or suffer some burn (esp if you're not careful with watering). They're all worth a try fr the wonderful flowers. Contact me off line if you're interested in some V coerulea. Gary "K Barrett" wrote in message news:Gacmb.8381$275.15284@attbi_s53... With proper case selection you could grow some vandaceous orchids outside, however IMHO they'd do better with some protection from the cold and shadecloth. Anything with sanderiana in the background will want more warmth. Some of the interesting crosses with other non-sanderiana species might work. Reportedly coerulea crosses take more cool temps, but IMHO that means the cooler side of warm rather than cool itself. In anycase, even the Thais use shadecloth. K Barrett "ron doctors" wrote in message om... I am in Santa Barbara California. I have a couple of questions about Vandas? 1. Can Vandas take full sun here? 2. What is minimum temperature. We get down to 30F at times, but next to house probably no lower than 38F. I wanted to find out if I caould keep the Vandas outside year round. I keep all my other orchids inside right next to a SW facing window with a shade cloth over the window, water very very thoroughly once a week and they do well producing continuous flowers. ( not on the same plant ! ). I fertilize by a spray once a month at about 1/4 strength using Peter's Orchid food . Any help on Vanda's in this area would be most appreciated. Thank you , ( if possible please email directly as well as posting to this group.) |
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i'm interested in a vanda coerulea.. i tries to email u but it bounced
back............ "V_coerulea" wrote in message ... I agree with what K Barrett said. I wouldn't advise growing any vandas below 45-50 deg F. Those in the low temp range would be hybrids using V coerulea. The sun strength here in southern SC is similiar to yours. All of our vandas take full sun from Oct to April. From May to Sept they all go under 20% shade. The terete -leaved vandas stay under these conditions. The strap-leaved ones get an additional 20% shade for the months of June-August. This includes the vandaceous hybrids such as Ascocendas. The bright light and fertilizer gives you the blooms. I'm sure you could give less light and they would survive (may or may not bloom), or more light where they may do just as well or suffer some burn (esp if you're not careful with watering). They're all worth a try fr the wonderful flowers. Contact me off line if you're interested in some V coerulea. Gary "K Barrett" wrote in message news:Gacmb.8381$275.15284@attbi_s53... With proper case selection you could grow some vandaceous orchids outside, however IMHO they'd do better with some protection from the cold and shadecloth. Anything with sanderiana in the background will want more warmth. Some of the interesting crosses with other non-sanderiana species might work. Reportedly coerulea crosses take more cool temps, but IMHO that means the cooler side of warm rather than cool itself. In anycase, even the Thais use shadecloth. K Barrett "ron doctors" wrote in message om... I am in Santa Barbara California. I have a couple of questions about Vandas? 1. Can Vandas take full sun here? 2. What is minimum temperature. We get down to 30F at times, but next to house probably no lower than 38F. I wanted to find out if I caould keep the Vandas outside year round. I keep all my other orchids inside right next to a SW facing window with a shade cloth over the window, water very very thoroughly once a week and they do well producing continuous flowers. ( not on the same plant ! ). I fertilize by a spray once a month at about 1/4 strength using Peter's Orchid food . Any help on Vanda's in this area would be most appreciated. Thank you , ( if possible please email directly as well as posting to this group.) |
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try spelling the email address as 'duesouth'
K Barrett Just a guess "dada" wrote in message s.com... i'm interested in a vanda coerulea.. i tries to email u but it bounced back............ "V_coerulea" wrote in message ... I agree with what K Barrett said. I wouldn't advise growing any vandas below 45-50 deg F. Those in the low temp range would be hybrids using V coerulea. The sun strength here in southern SC is similiar to yours. All of our vandas take full sun from Oct to April. From May to Sept they all go under 20% shade. The terete -leaved vandas stay under these conditions. The strap-leaved ones get an additional 20% shade for the months of June-August. This includes the vandaceous hybrids such as Ascocendas. The bright light and fertilizer gives you the blooms. I'm sure you could give less light and they would survive (may or may not bloom), or more light where they may do just as well or suffer some burn (esp if you're not careful with watering). They're all worth a try fr the wonderful flowers. Contact me off line if you're interested in some V coerulea. Gary "K Barrett" wrote in message news:Gacmb.8381$275.15284@attbi_s53... With proper case selection you could grow some vandaceous orchids outside, however IMHO they'd do better with some protection from the cold and shadecloth. Anything with sanderiana in the background will want more warmth. Some of the interesting crosses with other non-sanderiana species might work. Reportedly coerulea crosses take more cool temps, but IMHO that means the cooler side of warm rather than cool itself. In anycase, even the Thais use shadecloth. K Barrett "ron doctors" wrote in message om... I am in Santa Barbara California. I have a couple of questions about Vandas? 1. Can Vandas take full sun here? 2. What is minimum temperature. We get down to 30F at times, but next to house probably no lower than 38F. I wanted to find out if I caould keep the Vandas outside year round. I keep all my other orchids inside right next to a SW facing window with a shade cloth over the window, water very very thoroughly once a week and they do well producing continuous flowers. ( not on the same plant ! ). I fertilize by a spray once a month at about 1/4 strength using Peter's Orchid food . Any help on Vanda's in this area would be most appreciated. Thank you , ( if possible please email directly as well as posting to this group.) |
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Thanks, K, that's exactly right.
Gary "K Barrett" wrote in message news:jISmb.36334$HS4.128481@attbi_s01... try spelling the email address as 'duesouth' K Barrett Just a guess "dada" wrote in message s.com... i'm interested in a vanda coerulea.. i tries to email u but it bounced back............ "V_coerulea" wrote in message ... I agree with what K Barrett said. I wouldn't advise growing any vandas below 45-50 deg F. Those in the low temp range would be hybrids using V coerulea. The sun strength here in southern SC is similiar to yours. All of our vandas take full sun from Oct to April. From May to Sept they all go under 20% shade. The terete -leaved vandas stay under these conditions. The strap-leaved ones get an additional 20% shade for the months of June-August. This includes the vandaceous hybrids such as Ascocendas. The bright light and fertilizer gives you the blooms. I'm sure you could give less light and they would survive (may or may not bloom), or more light where they may do just as well or suffer some burn (esp if you're not careful with watering). They're all worth a try fr the wonderful flowers. Contact me off line if you're interested in some V coerulea. Gary "K Barrett" wrote in message news:Gacmb.8381$275.15284@attbi_s53... With proper case selection you could grow some vandaceous orchids outside, however IMHO they'd do better with some protection from the cold and shadecloth. Anything with sanderiana in the background will want more warmth. Some of the interesting crosses with other non-sanderiana species might work. Reportedly coerulea crosses take more cool temps, but IMHO that means the cooler side of warm rather than cool itself. In anycase, even the Thais use shadecloth. K Barrett "ron doctors" wrote in message om... I am in Santa Barbara California. I have a couple of questions about Vandas? 1. Can Vandas take full sun here? 2. What is minimum temperature. We get down to 30F at times, but next to house probably no lower than 38F. I wanted to find out if I caould keep the Vandas outside year round. I keep all my other orchids inside right next to a SW facing window with a shade cloth over the window, water very very thoroughly once a week and they do well producing continuous flowers. ( not on the same plant ! ). I fertilize by a spray once a month at about 1/4 strength using Peter's Orchid food . Any help on Vanda's in this area would be most appreciated. Thank you , ( if possible please email directly as well as posting to this group.) |
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vandas light level
Ron,
I would call Paul Grippe at Santa Barbara Orchid Estate and ask him your question. Off-hand it seems to me that some of the more hardy types might grow outdoors in your area, providing you take them inside when temps reach below the 40 degree mark. I, too, would tend to agree with K regarding Vanda sanderiana crosses. But, regarding vandas it may be noteworthy here that there are two types of vandas, and the terete types (e.g. Vanda Miss Joaquim )are grown without shade cloth. .. . . Pam Everything Orchid Management System http://www.pe.net/~profpam/page3.html -------------------------------------------------- K Barrett wrote: With proper case selection you could grow some vandaceous orchids outside, however IMHO they'd do better with some protection from the cold and shadecloth. Anything with sanderiana in the background will want more warmth. Some of the interesting crosses with other non-sanderiana species might work. Reportedly coerulea crosses take more cool temps, but IMHO that means the cooler side of warm rather than cool itself. In anycase, even the Thais use shadecloth. K Barrett "ron doctors" wrote in message om... I am in Santa Barbara California. I have a couple of questions about Vandas? 1. Can Vandas take full sun here? 2. What is minimum temperature. We get down to 30F at times, but next to house probably no lower than 38F. I wanted to find out if I caould keep the Vandas outside year round. I keep all my other orchids inside right next to a SW facing window with a shade cloth over the window, water very very thoroughly once a week and they do well producing continuous flowers. ( not on the same plant ! ). I fertilize by a spray once a month at about 1/4 strength using Peter's Orchid food . Any help on Vanda's in this area would be most appreciated. Thank you , ( if possible please email directly as well as posting to this group.) |
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There's a book called Growing Orchids in the Tropics from SE Asia Orchid
Society that has pictures of these vandas growing in the garden without any kind of shade. ________________ Ken Woodward Newton, MA http://kwoodward.net "profpam" wrote in message ... Ron, I would call Paul Grippe at Santa Barbara Orchid Estate and ask him your question. Off-hand it seems to me that some of the more hardy types might grow outdoors in your area, providing you take them inside when temps reach below the 40 degree mark. I, too, would tend to agree with K regarding Vanda sanderiana crosses. But, regarding vandas it may be noteworthy here that there are two types of vandas, and the terete types (e.g. Vanda Miss Joaquim )are grown without shade cloth. . . . Pam Everything Orchid Management System http://www.pe.net/~profpam/page3.html -------------------------------------------------- K Barrett wrote: With proper case selection you could grow some vandaceous orchids outside, however IMHO they'd do better with some protection from the cold and shadecloth. Anything with sanderiana in the background will want more warmth. Some of the interesting crosses with other non-sanderiana species might work. Reportedly coerulea crosses take more cool temps, but IMHO that means the cooler side of warm rather than cool itself. In anycase, even the Thais use shadecloth. K Barrett "ron doctors" wrote in message om... I am in Santa Barbara California. I have a couple of questions about Vandas? 1. Can Vandas take full sun here? 2. What is minimum temperature. We get down to 30F at times, but next to house probably no lower than 38F. I wanted to find out if I caould keep the Vandas outside year round. I keep all my other orchids inside right next to a SW facing window with a shade cloth over the window, water very very thoroughly once a week and they do well producing continuous flowers. ( not on the same plant ! ). I fertilize by a spray once a month at about 1/4 strength using Peter's Orchid food . Any help on Vanda's in this area would be most appreciated. Thank you , ( if possible please email directly as well as posting to this group.) |
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