Anyone got the inside scoop in the AOS forum being down all week? There
is no webpage work that could take more than a few hours.I wonder what
the problem REALLY is? I sent them a note, but of course they haven't
replied.

tennis maynard wrote:

Anyone got the inside scoop in the AOS forum being down all week?
There is no webpage work that could take more than a few hours.I
wonder what the problem REALLY is? I sent them a note, but of course
they haven't replied.

Well, that isn't entirely true... I've done webpage work that takes
weeks. But it is usually more acceptable to do that on a development
machine, and leave the 'live server' alone until you are done. I bet
they are having hardware problems. I doubt they have a lot of
resources, so if a disk drive goes down, or they get seriously hacked,
they will probably have a significant down period.

It is frustrating when you are used to instant results all the time...
The web is a pretty reliable these days, but it doesn't take much to
remember a time when it wasn't.

Rob

--
Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit

I design garden web sites as my full time job. I can definitely say that
upgrading a forum or certain aspect of a web site can take quite a bit of
time. Just trying to get the site to function in all the different browsers
is an enormous task as they all do not render server platforms the same way.
The older Netscape browsers are a major problem and trying to get a site to
degrade nicely in a way that is acceptable and functional is a task. The
new Safari browser is real buggy. Then there is Explorer, Mozilla,
Firebird, Opera, new Netscape, old Netscape, Safari, and a few others.
Browser compatibility is probably only a minor headache though. There are
so many situations that surface under different architectures.

I imagine that the work being done will be appreciated by everyone. I
imagine that whole AOS site will be upgraded in sections. It is a never
ending task.

Bobby Baxter
http://thegardensite.com




"tennis maynard" wrote in message
...
Anyone got the inside scoop in the AOS forum being down all week? There
is no webpage work that could take more than a few hours.I wonder what
the problem REALLY is? I sent them a note, but of course they haven't
replied.

I design garden web sites as my full time job. I can definitely say that
upgrading a forum or certain aspect of a web site can take quite a bit of
time. Just trying to get the site to function in all the different browsers
is an enormous task as they all do not render server platforms the same way.
The older Netscape browsers are a major problem and trying to get a site to
degrade nicely in a way that is acceptable and functional is a task. The
new Safari browser is real buggy. Then there is Explorer, Mozilla,
Firebird, Opera, new Netscape, old Netscape, Safari, and a few others.
Browser compatibility is probably only a minor headache though. There are
so many situations that surface under different architectures.

I imagine that the work being done will be appreciated by everyone. I
imagine that whole AOS site will be upgraded in sections. It is a never
ending task.

Bobby Baxter
http://thegardensite.com




"tennis maynard" wrote in message
...
Anyone got the inside scoop in the AOS forum being down all week? There
is no webpage work that could take more than a few hours.I wonder what
the problem REALLY is? I sent them a note, but of course they haven't
replied.

Actually, the delay is attributed to a change in web host and the associated
delays while the new DNS links get propagated throughout the net.

That's pretty poor webmastering, in my mind. Always COPY the files to the
new servers, then as the new IP addresses get circulated, folks will find
themselves at the new location.

OK, so you ask a question on the forum as web host A and it doesn't make it
to web host B due to timing, but a little frustration - easily explained
away - is better than preventing folks from using the resource at all.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

.. . . . . . . . . . .
"Bobby Baxter" wrote in message
. com...
I design garden web sites as my full time job. I can definitely say that
upgrading a forum or certain aspect of a web site can take quite a bit of
time. Just trying to get the site to function in all the different
browsers
is an enormous task as they all do not render server platforms the same
way.
The older Netscape browsers are a major problem and trying to get a site
to
degrade nicely in a way that is acceptable and functional is a task. The
new Safari browser is real buggy. Then there is Explorer, Mozilla,
Firebird, Opera, new Netscape, old Netscape, Safari, and a few others.
Browser compatibility is probably only a minor headache though. There are
so many situations that surface under different architectures.

I imagine that the work being done will be appreciated by everyone. I
imagine that whole AOS site will be upgraded in sections. It is a never
ending task.

Bobby Baxter
http://thegardensite.com




"tennis maynard" wrote in message
...
Anyone got the inside scoop in the AOS forum being down all week? There
is no webpage work that could take more than a few hours.I wonder what
the problem REALLY is? I sent them a note, but of course they haven't
replied.

Actually, the delay is attributed to a change in web host and the associated
delays while the new DNS links get propagated throughout the net.

That's pretty poor webmastering, in my mind. Always COPY the files to the
new servers, then as the new IP addresses get circulated, folks will find
themselves at the new location.

OK, so you ask a question on the forum as web host A and it doesn't make it
to web host B due to timing, but a little frustration - easily explained
away - is better than preventing folks from using the resource at all.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

.. . . . . . . . . . .
"Bobby Baxter" wrote in message
. com...
I design garden web sites as my full time job. I can definitely say that
upgrading a forum or certain aspect of a web site can take quite a bit of
time. Just trying to get the site to function in all the different
browsers
is an enormous task as they all do not render server platforms the same
way.
The older Netscape browsers are a major problem and trying to get a site
to
degrade nicely in a way that is acceptable and functional is a task. The
new Safari browser is real buggy. Then there is Explorer, Mozilla,
Firebird, Opera, new Netscape, old Netscape, Safari, and a few others.
Browser compatibility is probably only a minor headache though. There are
so many situations that surface under different architectures.

I imagine that the work being done will be appreciated by everyone. I
imagine that whole AOS site will be upgraded in sections. It is a never
ending task.

Bobby Baxter
http://thegardensite.com




"tennis maynard" wrote in message
...
Anyone got the inside scoop in the AOS forum being down all week? There
is no webpage work that could take more than a few hours.I wonder what
the problem REALLY is? I sent them a note, but of course they haven't
replied.

Ray, you are correct. If they are simply changing hosting companies they
should put the new site up on the new host under the IPAddress. Then when
things were working properly they could simply redirect the nameserver to
the new IPAddress. There would have been zero down time. Some the most
current posts might have been lost in the transfer, the group would have
remained online.

Bobby
http://thegardensite.com



"Ray" wrote in message
...
Actually, the delay is attributed to a change in web host and the
associated
delays while the new DNS links get propagated throughout the net.

That's pretty poor webmastering, in my mind. Always COPY the files to the
new servers, then as the new IP addresses get circulated, folks will find
themselves at the new location.

OK, so you ask a question on the forum as web host A and it doesn't make
it
to web host B due to timing, but a little frustration - easily explained
away - is better than preventing folks from using the resource at all.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"Bobby Baxter" wrote in message
. com...
I design garden web sites as my full time job. I can definitely say
that
upgrading a forum or certain aspect of a web site can take quite a bit
of
time. Just trying to get the site to function in all the different
browsers
is an enormous task as they all do not render server platforms the same
way.
The older Netscape browsers are a major problem and trying to get a site
to
degrade nicely in a way that is acceptable and functional is a task.
The
new Safari browser is real buggy. Then there is Explorer, Mozilla,
Firebird, Opera, new Netscape, old Netscape, Safari, and a few others.
Browser compatibility is probably only a minor headache though. There
are
so many situations that surface under different architectures.

I imagine that the work being done will be appreciated by everyone. I
imagine that whole AOS site will be upgraded in sections. It is a never
ending task.

Bobby Baxter
http://thegardensite.com




"tennis maynard" wrote in message
...
Anyone got the inside scoop in the AOS forum being down all week?
There
is no webpage work that could take more than a few hours.I wonder what
the problem REALLY is? I sent them a note, but of course they haven't
replied.

Ray, you are correct. If they are simply changing hosting companies they
should put the new site up on the new host under the IPAddress. Then when
things were working properly they could simply redirect the nameserver to
the new IPAddress. There would have been zero down time. Some the most
current posts might have been lost in the transfer, the group would have
remained online.

Bobby
http://thegardensite.com



"Ray" wrote in message
...
Actually, the delay is attributed to a change in web host and the
associated
delays while the new DNS links get propagated throughout the net.

That's pretty poor webmastering, in my mind. Always COPY the files to the
new servers, then as the new IP addresses get circulated, folks will find
themselves at the new location.

OK, so you ask a question on the forum as web host A and it doesn't make
it
to web host B due to timing, but a little frustration - easily explained
away - is better than preventing folks from using the resource at all.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"Bobby Baxter" wrote in message
. com...
I design garden web sites as my full time job. I can definitely say
that
upgrading a forum or certain aspect of a web site can take quite a bit
of
time. Just trying to get the site to function in all the different
browsers
is an enormous task as they all do not render server platforms the same
way.
The older Netscape browsers are a major problem and trying to get a site
to
degrade nicely in a way that is acceptable and functional is a task.
The
new Safari browser is real buggy. Then there is Explorer, Mozilla,
Firebird, Opera, new Netscape, old Netscape, Safari, and a few others.
Browser compatibility is probably only a minor headache though. There
are
so many situations that surface under different architectures.

I imagine that the work being done will be appreciated by everyone. I
imagine that whole AOS site will be upgraded in sections. It is a never
ending task.

Bobby Baxter
http://thegardensite.com




"tennis maynard" wrote in message
...
Anyone got the inside scoop in the AOS forum being down all week?
There
is no webpage work that could take more than a few hours.I wonder what
the problem REALLY is? I sent them a note, but of course they haven't
replied.

Ray, you are correct. If they are simply changing hosting companies they
should put the new site up on the new host under the IPAddress. Then when
things were working properly they could simply redirect the nameserver to
the new IPAddress. There would have been zero down time. Some the most
current posts might have been lost in the transfer, the group would have
remained online.

Bobby
http://thegardensite.com



"Ray" wrote in message
...
Actually, the delay is attributed to a change in web host and the
associated
delays while the new DNS links get propagated throughout the net.

That's pretty poor webmastering, in my mind. Always COPY the files to the
new servers, then as the new IP addresses get circulated, folks will find
themselves at the new location.

OK, so you ask a question on the forum as web host A and it doesn't make
it
to web host B due to timing, but a little frustration - easily explained
away - is better than preventing folks from using the resource at all.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"Bobby Baxter" wrote in message
. com...
I design garden web sites as my full time job. I can definitely say
that
upgrading a forum or certain aspect of a web site can take quite a bit
of
time. Just trying to get the site to function in all the different
browsers
is an enormous task as they all do not render server platforms the same
way.
The older Netscape browsers are a major problem and trying to get a site
to
degrade nicely in a way that is acceptable and functional is a task.
The
new Safari browser is real buggy. Then there is Explorer, Mozilla,
Firebird, Opera, new Netscape, old Netscape, Safari, and a few others.
Browser compatibility is probably only a minor headache though. There
are
so many situations that surface under different architectures.

I imagine that the work being done will be appreciated by everyone. I
imagine that whole AOS site will be upgraded in sections. It is a never
ending task.

Bobby Baxter
http://thegardensite.com




"tennis maynard" wrote in message
...
Anyone got the inside scoop in the AOS forum being down all week?
There
is no webpage work that could take more than a few hours.I wonder what
the problem REALLY is? I sent them a note, but of course they haven't
replied.

Ray, you are correct. If they are simply changing hosting companies they
should put the new site up on the new host under the IPAddress. Then when
things were working properly they could simply redirect the nameserver to
the new IPAddress. There would have been zero down time. Some the most
current posts might have been lost in the transfer, the group would have
remained online.

Bobby
http://thegardensite.com



"Ray" wrote in message
...
Actually, the delay is attributed to a change in web host and the
associated
delays while the new DNS links get propagated throughout the net.

That's pretty poor webmastering, in my mind. Always COPY the files to the
new servers, then as the new IP addresses get circulated, folks will find
themselves at the new location.

OK, so you ask a question on the forum as web host A and it doesn't make
it
to web host B due to timing, but a little frustration - easily explained
away - is better than preventing folks from using the resource at all.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"Bobby Baxter" wrote in message
. com...
I design garden web sites as my full time job. I can definitely say
that
upgrading a forum or certain aspect of a web site can take quite a bit
of
time. Just trying to get the site to function in all the different
browsers
is an enormous task as they all do not render server platforms the same
way.
The older Netscape browsers are a major problem and trying to get a site
to
degrade nicely in a way that is acceptable and functional is a task.
The
new Safari browser is real buggy. Then there is Explorer, Mozilla,
Firebird, Opera, new Netscape, old Netscape, Safari, and a few others.
Browser compatibility is probably only a minor headache though. There
are
so many situations that surface under different architectures.

I imagine that the work being done will be appreciated by everyone. I
imagine that whole AOS site will be upgraded in sections. It is a never
ending task.

Bobby Baxter
http://thegardensite.com




"tennis maynard" wrote in message
...
Anyone got the inside scoop in the AOS forum being down all week?
There
is no webpage work that could take more than a few hours.I wonder what
the problem REALLY is? I sent them a note, but of course they haven't
replied.