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08-01-2005, 07:36 PM
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Ray wrote:
Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but what's wrong with IE and OE? IE has a popup blocker that's quite effective, and I have all sorts of mail rules set up that block the vast majority of spam in OE. Am I missing something THAT significantly different? *I* must be missing something. Which IE has a popup blocker??? The Google toolbar blocked mine, but IE?? But I don't even have to go through the hassle of setting up rules with Thunderbird. -- Reka This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it! http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ Rediscover the Web! http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/firefox/ They're free! |
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#2
08-01-2005, 07:47 PM
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I think it's part of Microsoft's security patch two (SR2) It added a popup
blocker and a firewall. I have had to turn off Microsoft's pop-up blocker because my Google tool bar does this already and I have the Microsoft firewall turned off because I already have one I like. "Microsoft: busy building in all the stuff you want after somebody else things of it first." "Reka" wrote in message ... Ray wrote: Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but what's wrong with IE and OE? IE has a popup blocker that's quite effective, and I have all sorts of mail rules set up that block the vast majority of spam in OE. Am I missing something THAT significantly different? *I* must be missing something. Which IE has a popup blocker??? The Google toolbar blocked mine, but IE?? But I don't even have to go through the hassle of setting up rules with Thunderbird. -- Reka This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it! http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ Rediscover the Web! http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/firefox/ They're free! |
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#3
08-01-2005, 09:19 PM
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It was automatic with the Win XP SR-2
-- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. "Reka" wrote in message ... Ray wrote: Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but what's wrong with IE and OE? IE has a popup blocker that's quite effective, and I have all sorts of mail rules set up that block the vast majority of spam in OE. Am I missing something THAT significantly different? *I* must be missing something. Which IE has a popup blocker??? The Google toolbar blocked mine, but IE?? But I don't even have to go through the hassle of setting up rules with Thunderbird. -- Reka This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it! http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ Rediscover the Web! http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/firefox/ They're free! |
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#4
09-01-2005, 12:49 AM
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Ray and Al,
When you updated to SP2, was the original XP cd required? Scottie "Ray" wrote in message news  It was automatic with the Win XP SR-2 -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . "Reka" wrote in message ... Ray wrote: Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but what's wrong with IE and OE? IE has a popup blocker that's quite effective, and I have all sorts of mail rules set up that block the vast majority of spam in OE. Am I missing something THAT significantly different? *I* must be missing something. Which IE has a popup blocker??? The Google toolbar blocked mine, but IE?? But I don't even have to go through the hassle of setting up rules with Thunderbird. -- Reka This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it! http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ Rediscover the Web! http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/firefox/ They're free! |
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#5
09-01-2005, 01:50 AM
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Here, Microsoft Window's XP home edition is running on a Hewlet Packard
something or other. It came installed on this computer. I do not have any original disks and was not asked to provide one during the installation of the SP2. Your results may vary. I would check out Microsoft's website for problems installing the SP2 if you suspect there is anything out of the ordinary with the edition of your operating system. I would check out this website for information only if my day was already as bad as I could possibly imagine, but sometimes you have no choice. it is rumored that lots of people had trouble upgrading. For my own part, after the computer rebooted itself, it took like 45 excruciating minutes to reorganize it's insides before the new version came up and then I had to pretend it was an initial installation and set up everything all over again, from the log on screen to the pop-up blocker, passwords and firewall, etc. All the installed software, like my email and newsgroup readers were not affected outwardly by the upgrade. I take that back, the explorer browser had to be configured for "privacy concerns" We have just reached the limit of my computer knowledge. Goodnight....and happy orchid growing. Oh yes, and back up everything important first. "Scottie" wrote in message ink.net... Ray and Al, When you updated to SP2, was the original XP cd required? Scottie "Ray" wrote in message news It was automatic with the Win XP SR-2 -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . "Reka" wrote in message ... Ray wrote: Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but what's wrong with IE and OE? IE has a popup blocker that's quite effective, and I have all sorts of mail rules set up that block the vast majority of spam in OE. Am I missing something THAT significantly different? *I* must be missing something. Which IE has a popup blocker??? The Google toolbar blocked mine, but IE?? But I don't even have to go through the hassle of setting up rules with Thunderbird. -- Reka This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it! http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ Rediscover the Web! http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/firefox/ They're free! |
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#6
09-01-2005, 03:53 AM
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Al and Claude,
I have 20 machines to maintain at work, and all but two are running XP-Pro, SP1. Our network is running several complicated firewalls and antivirus programs on the server -- it's a public library where anyone can come in and pop any floppy or cd into the machine and read it, but not load it, or go to any website. Every night, everything the public has done is erased. My tech guru, who works with all the libraries in the Houston area, has advised me to avoid SP2 as long as possible, so I've just been doing the regular Win Update, but I know the day is coming. Right now I have two, possibly three down, with some kind of spyware which has put them in a permanent loop on boot, so I have to go in Monday and reload the OS on those, and I thought I might try SP2, just to make life fun. I have had reports from friends and library patrons that the original cd's were required, but although I've searched MS Update, several tech sites, and asked all the gurus I know, that doesn't seem to be the case. My home machine did not come with the original MS XP cd, just a snapshot recovery cd, and I haven't devoted any weekends to loading it at home, either, mostly because I don't want to take the time to do the backup to cd's necessary (I have XP home and it doesn't offer the built-in backup option XP-Pro does, and I'm too cheap to buy a good backup system). I sure hate to hear the 45 minutes to get running part of your message! That will take forever at work. Scottie "Al" wrote in message ... Here, Microsoft Window's XP home edition is running on a Hewlet Packard something or other. It came installed on this computer. I do not have any original disks and was not asked to provide one during the installation of the SP2. Your results may vary. I would check out Microsoft's website for problems installing the SP2 if you suspect there is anything out of the ordinary with the edition of your operating system. I would check out this website for information only if my day was already as bad as I could possibly imagine, but sometimes you have no choice. it is rumored that lots of people had trouble upgrading. For my own part, after the computer rebooted itself, it took like 45 excruciating minutes to reorganize it's insides before the new version came up and then I had to pretend it was an initial installation and set up everything all over again, from the log on screen to the pop-up blocker, passwords and firewall, etc. All the installed software, like my email and newsgroup readers were not affected outwardly by the upgrade. I take that back, the explorer browser had to be configured for "privacy concerns" We have just reached the limit of my computer knowledge. Goodnight....and happy orchid growing. Oh yes, and back up everything important first. "Scottie" wrote in message ink.net... Ray and Al, When you updated to SP2, was the original XP cd required? Scottie "Ray" wrote in message news It was automatic with the Win XP SR-2 -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . "Reka" wrote in message ... Ray wrote: Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but what's wrong with IE and OE? IE has a popup blocker that's quite effective, and I have all sorts of mail rules set up that block the vast majority of spam in OE. Am I missing something THAT significantly different? *I* must be missing something. Which IE has a popup blocker??? The Google toolbar blocked mine, but IE?? But I don't even have to go through the hassle of setting up rules with Thunderbird. -- Reka This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it! http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ Rediscover the Web! http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/firefox/ They're free! |
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#7
09-01-2005, 03:32 AM
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Hello Scottie!
If you have XP , a good antivirus, a good firewall and a good anti spyware, you do not need to upgrade to XP service pack 2! I`m running a Compaq presario with pentium 4, 2,5 ghrtz with Xp home. I use AVG antivirus, Zone Alarm firewall and Microsoft antispyware beta 1. Never had any problem! Claude "Scottie" wrote in message ink.net... | Ray and Al, | | When you updated to SP2, was the original XP cd required? | | Scottie | "Ray" wrote in message | news
| It was automatic with the Win XP SR-2| | -- | | Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com | Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! | . | "Reka" wrote in message | ... | Ray wrote: | Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but what's wrong with IE and | OE? | | IE has a popup blocker that's quite effective, and I have all sorts | of mail rules set up that block the vast majority of spam in OE. | | Am I missing something THAT significantly different? | | *I* must be missing something. Which IE has a popup blocker??? The | Google toolbar blocked mine, but IE?? | But I don't even have to go through the hassle of setting up rules | with Thunderbird. | | -- | Reka | | This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it! | http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html | | Reclaim Your Inbox! | http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ | | Rediscover the Web! | http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/firefox/ | | They're free! | | | | | |
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#8
09-01-2005, 02:09 PM
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It wasn't for me. I can also tell you it was one of the smoothest
updates I've experienced. No software glitches or incompatibilities. As Al alluded: your results may vary. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. "Scottie" wrote in message ink.net... Ray and Al, When you updated to SP2, was the original XP cd required? Scottie "Ray" wrote in message news It was automatic with the Win XP SR-2 -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . "Reka" wrote in message ... Ray wrote: Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but what's wrong with IE and OE? IE has a popup blocker that's quite effective, and I have all sorts of mail rules set up that block the vast majority of spam in OE. Am I missing something THAT significantly different? *I* must be missing something. Which IE has a popup blocker??? The Google toolbar blocked mine, but IE?? But I don't even have to go through the hassle of setting up rules with Thunderbird. -- Reka This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it! http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ Rediscover the Web! http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/firefox/ They're free! |
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#9
09-01-2005, 01:50 AM
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Here, Microsoft Window's XP home edition is running on a Hewlet Packard
something or other. It came installed on this computer. I do not have any original disks and was not asked to provide one during the installation of the SP2. Your results may vary. I would check out Microsoft's website for problems installing the SP2 if you suspect there is anything out of the ordinary with the edition of your operating system. I would check out this website for information only if my day was already as bad as I could possibly imagine, but sometimes you have no choice. it is rumored that lots of people had trouble upgrading. For my own part, after the computer rebooted itself, it took like 45 excruciating minutes to reorganize it's insides before the new version came up and then I had to pretend it was an initial installation and set up everything all over again, from the log on screen to the pop-up blocker, passwords and firewall, etc. All the installed software, like my email and newsgroup readers were not affected outwardly by the upgrade. I take that back, the explorer browser had to be configured for "privacy concerns" We have just reached the limit of my computer knowledge. Goodnight....and happy orchid growing. Oh yes, and back up everything important first. "Scottie" wrote in message ink.net... Ray and Al, When you updated to SP2, was the original XP cd required? Scottie "Ray" wrote in message news It was automatic with the Win XP SR-2 -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . "Reka" wrote in message ... Ray wrote: Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but what's wrong with IE and OE? IE has a popup blocker that's quite effective, and I have all sorts of mail rules set up that block the vast majority of spam in OE. Am I missing something THAT significantly different? *I* must be missing something. Which IE has a popup blocker??? The Google toolbar blocked mine, but IE?? But I don't even have to go through the hassle of setting up rules with Thunderbird. -- Reka This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it! http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ Rediscover the Web! http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/firefox/ They're free! |
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#10
09-01-2005, 03:32 AM
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Hello Scottie!
If you have XP , a good antivirus, a good firewall and a good anti spyware, you do not need to upgrade to XP service pack 2! I`m running a Compaq presario with pentium 4, 2,5 ghrtz with Xp home. I use AVG antivirus, Zone Alarm firewall and Microsoft antispyware beta 1. Never had any problem! Claude "Scottie" wrote in message ink.net... | Ray and Al, | | When you updated to SP2, was the original XP cd required? | | Scottie | "Ray" wrote in message | news
| It was automatic with the Win XP SR-2| | -- | | Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com | Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! | . | "Reka" wrote in message | ... | Ray wrote: | Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but what's wrong with IE and | OE? | | IE has a popup blocker that's quite effective, and I have all sorts | of mail rules set up that block the vast majority of spam in OE. | | Am I missing something THAT significantly different? | | *I* must be missing something. Which IE has a popup blocker??? The | Google toolbar blocked mine, but IE?? | But I don't even have to go through the hassle of setting up rules | with Thunderbird. | | -- | Reka | | This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it! | http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html | | Reclaim Your Inbox! | http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ | | Rediscover the Web! | http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/firefox/ | | They're free! | | | | | |
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#11
09-01-2005, 02:09 PM
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It wasn't for me. I can also tell you it was one of the smoothest
updates I've experienced. No software glitches or incompatibilities. As Al alluded: your results may vary. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. "Scottie" wrote in message ink.net... Ray and Al, When you updated to SP2, was the original XP cd required? Scottie "Ray" wrote in message news It was automatic with the Win XP SR-2 -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . "Reka" wrote in message ... Ray wrote: Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but what's wrong with IE and OE? IE has a popup blocker that's quite effective, and I have all sorts of mail rules set up that block the vast majority of spam in OE. Am I missing something THAT significantly different? *I* must be missing something. Which IE has a popup blocker??? The Google toolbar blocked mine, but IE?? But I don't even have to go through the hassle of setting up rules with Thunderbird. -- Reka This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it! http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ Rediscover the Web! http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/firefox/ They're free! |
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09-01-2005, 09:09 AM
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Ray wrote:
It was automatic with the Win XP SR-2 Ah...I understand...nothing for us using the old 98! -- Reka This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it! http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ Rediscover the Web! http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/firefox/ They're free! |
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09-01-2005, 02:20 PM
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Reka,
My old WIN 98 machine wasn't supposed to be compatible with XP, but one evening of sitting around an empty house and after entirely too much wine, I decided to "give it a go." After about 30 minutes requiring my occasional intervention, the installation started cranking on its own and I fell asleep (passed out?) on the office floor (good thing we had recently installed new carpeting). Sometime later I was awaken by this music playing on the computer. It was fully installed XP asking we if it was OK to reboot. It is - without a doubt - the smartest upgrade decision of my PC life. Faster, more software and hardware compatibility, etc. I have upgraded three other PC's in the family since then - two from 98, one from "98Me" - all with similar stories (except the wine/sleep part). -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. "Reka" wrote in message ... Ray wrote: It was automatic with the Win XP SR-2 Ah...I understand...nothing for us using the old 98! -- Reka This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it! http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ Rediscover the Web! http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/firefox/ They're free! |
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09-01-2005, 02:20 PM
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Reka,
My old WIN 98 machine wasn't supposed to be compatible with XP, but one evening of sitting around an empty house and after entirely too much wine, I decided to "give it a go." After about 30 minutes requiring my occasional intervention, the installation started cranking on its own and I fell asleep (passed out?) on the office floor (good thing we had recently installed new carpeting). Sometime later I was awaken by this music playing on the computer. It was fully installed XP asking we if it was OK to reboot. It is - without a doubt - the smartest upgrade decision of my PC life. Faster, more software and hardware compatibility, etc. I have upgraded three other PC's in the family since then - two from 98, one from "98Me" - all with similar stories (except the wine/sleep part). -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. "Reka" wrote in message ... Ray wrote: It was automatic with the Win XP SR-2 Ah...I understand...nothing for us using the old 98! -- Reka This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it! http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ Rediscover the Web! http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/firefox/ They're free! |
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#15
09-01-2005, 09:09 AM
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Ray wrote:
It was automatic with the Win XP SR-2 Ah...I understand...nothing for us using the old 98! -- Reka This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it! http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ Rediscover the Web! http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/firefox/ They're free! |
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