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Equitants & Tolumnias
I had read a while back that species of equitant oncidiums were
named Tolumnias. When did they make this rule for hybrids as well? -- Cheers Wendy Remove PETERPAN for email reply |
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wendy7 wrote:
I had read a while back that species of equitant oncidiums were named Tolumnias. When did they make this rule for hybrids as well? I don't know that it is a rule, so much as convention. The international orchid registrar (at the RHS) decides these kinds of things. At least for the registration of hybrids. Not sure when they accepted 'Tolumnia' for registration purposes, seems like it was within the last five years or so, though. There isn't any formal process for changing the name of a species - it is kind of a 'throw it at the wall and hope it sticks' method. If enough people think you are right, then they will use the name you use, and eventually that becomes the 'right' name. Rob -- Rob's Rules: http://littlefrogfarm.com 1) There is always room for one more orchid 2) There is always room for two more orchids 2a) See rule 1 3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more orchids, obtain more credit |
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that is of course until they change it again
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http://www.wildcattdata.com/NewWeb/news.htm
Read that. The name changes to the oncidium group effect all the hybrids of the species being changed. From this page you can download a list of all effected hybrids. It is very rare for species name changes made by taxonomists to be carried over into hybrids named while the species were traveling under older names, but it does happen. This change by the registrar of the RHS to the oncidiums is MAJOR. Thousands of hybrids changed genera/nothogenera affiliation. They did not change *grex* names, just genera affiliation. Your question was when did it happen. It looks like sometime in the early to mid part of 2004 An equitant oncidium named Onc. Wendy is still named Wendy, but it is now called Tolu. Wendy in the official record if her species level ancestors were among those that were changed. It is kind of nice that the Registrar is making an effort to keep the hybrid record up to date with taxonomic changes. I don't think this change was made lightly or without lots of evidence to help him conclude that it would stay this way for quite a while and not revert back in a week, but who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of orchid taxonomists and genetic Cladisticians (I just made that word up) "wendy7" wrote in message news:ESQde.3070$Fa1.1974@fed1read02... I had read a while back that species of equitant oncidiums were named Tolumnias. When did they make this rule for hybrids as well? -- Cheers Wendy Remove PETERPAN for email reply |
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Thanks ever so much for this Al, at least changing all the equitants
makes it more consistant? -- Cheers Wendy Remove PETERPAN for email reply Al wrote: http://www.wildcattdata.com/NewWeb/news.htm Read that. The name changes to the oncidium group effect all the hybrids of the species being changed. From this page you can download a list of all effected hybrids. It is very rare for species name changes made by taxonomists to be carried over into hybrids named while the species were traveling under older names, but it does happen. This change by the registrar of the RHS to the oncidiums is MAJOR. Thousands of hybrids changed genera/nothogenera affiliation. They did not change *grex* names, just genera affiliation. Your question was when did it happen. It looks like sometime in the early to mid part of 2004 An equitant oncidium named Onc. Wendy is still named Wendy, but it is now called Tolu. Wendy in the official record if her species level ancestors were among those that were changed. It is kind of nice that the Registrar is making an effort to keep the hybrid record up to date with taxonomic changes. I don't think this change was made lightly or without lots of evidence to help him conclude that it would stay this way for quite a while and not revert back in a week, but who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of orchid taxonomists and genetic Cladisticians (I just made that word up) "wendy7" wrote in message news:ESQde.3070$Fa1.1974@fed1read02... I had read a while back that species of equitant oncidiums were named Tolumnias. When did they make this rule for hybrids as well? -- Cheers Wendy Remove PETERPAN for email reply |
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They are very different in growth habit from "other" oncidiums, so yes, it
is much more consistent. "wendy7" wrote in message news:SdTde.3077$Fa1.2617@fed1read02... Thanks ever so much for this Al, at least changing all the equitants makes it more consistant? -- Cheers Wendy Remove PETERPAN for email reply Al wrote: http://www.wildcattdata.com/NewWeb/news.htm Read that. The name changes to the oncidium group effect all the hybrids of the species being changed. From this page you can download a list of all effected hybrids. It is very rare for species name changes made by taxonomists to be carried over into hybrids named while the species were traveling under older names, but it does happen. This change by the registrar of the RHS to the oncidiums is MAJOR. Thousands of hybrids changed genera/nothogenera affiliation. They did not change *grex* names, just genera affiliation. Your question was when did it happen. It looks like sometime in the early to mid part of 2004 An equitant oncidium named Onc. Wendy is still named Wendy, but it is now called Tolu. Wendy in the official record if her species level ancestors were among those that were changed. It is kind of nice that the Registrar is making an effort to keep the hybrid record up to date with taxonomic changes. I don't think this change was made lightly or without lots of evidence to help him conclude that it would stay this way for quite a while and not revert back in a week, but who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of orchid taxonomists and genetic Cladisticians (I just made that word up) "wendy7" wrote in message news:ESQde.3070$Fa1.1974@fed1read02... I had read a while back that species of equitant oncidiums were named Tolumnias. When did they make this rule for hybrids as well? -- Cheers Wendy Remove PETERPAN for email reply |
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