This is my first pond and although familiar with aquariums this is a bit
different.

1 - Do I need to remove the goldfish and shubunkins to an indoor aquarium or
something for the winter? It gets cold here but not terribly. Can dip below
zero in the winter but not often. Snow rarely sits on the ground for long,
but we do get an occassional few days where a few inches just doesn't melt
off. It is a lined pond about 6x8x2' deep. In the winter there will be no
filtration as it's too cold for above ground pump to run without freezing. I
don't *think* the water would freeze solid but would expect the top few
inches might at the worst part of the winter since the water wouldn't be
moving then.

2- I've not as of yet put any plants in the pond but would like to. Do they
generally need to be removed (brought in) for the winter? or are do they go
dormant for the winter?

3- Any recomendations as to what type of plants to put in the pond? We live
in central oregon (zone 8, I believe).

Any advice is MUCh appreciated.
TIA,
Carol

On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 11:50:50 -0700, Deswinds wrote:

This is my first pond and although familiar with aquariums this is a bit
different.

It's not that different really. With a pond you get wind carried soil
and pondlife but it's still a closed environment and you need to
monitor water quality and do changes to stop the hardness rising.

1 - Do I need to remove the goldfish and shubunkins to an indoor aquarium or
something for the winter? It gets cold here but not terribly. Can dip below
zero in the winter but not often. Snow rarely sits on the ground for long,
but we do get an occassional few days where a few inches just doesn't melt
off. It is a lined pond about 6x8x2' deep. In the winter there will be no
filtration as it's too cold for above ground pump to run without freezing. I
don't *think* the water would freeze solid but would expect the top few
inches might at the worst part of the winter since the water wouldn't be
moving then.

No they should be ok. You should run the pump all year round. It's
unlikely to freeze with water flowing through it and it will keep the
ammonia and nitrite down although the bacteria is not as active.

2- I've not as of yet put any plants in the pond but would like to. Do they
generally need to be removed (brought in) for the winter? or are do they go
dormant for the winter?

Plants are essential otherwise the nitrate levels will just rise and
rise. Your fish will be a lot less nervous with some plants to go to,
not having any will contribute to them not coming up for food. You need
some oxygenating plants. Water lilies are popular but get ones that are
suitable for your pond size and depth. Water hyacinth and lettuce are
good to give the fish shelter from the sun, they won't survive the
winter but the others will and should be left in. If you add some
potash it will help the plants to take up the nitrate and that will
keep the algae down. No doubt Jerry will post the dosing (please
Jerry).

3- Any recomendations as to what type of plants to put in the pond? We live
in central oregon (zone 8, I believe).

See what your local suppliers have. It's difficult to make
recommendations since we don't know how big the pond is, I'm in the UK
anyway so I don't know what is available there, can you grow Lotus
there? I bet Jerry can answer this one as well :-)

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1 - Do I need to remove the goldfish and shubunkins to an indoor aquarium or
something for the winter? It gets cold here but not terribly.It is a lined
pond about 6x8x2' deep. Idon't *think* the water would freeze solid but would
expect the top fewinches might at the worst part of the winter since the water
wouldn't bemoving then.

If the water doesn't freeze to the bottom, and there is an air hole the fish
will be fine. Go to a feed store and get a stock pond heater....They will also
tell youthere if your water will freeze solid. You can go to a pond or pet
shop....but they will sell you something much fancier and 10 times the amount.
Where do you live? I know people in Minn. and Wisc. who leave their fish out
in ponds not much deeper than yours.....Jerri

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No they should be ok. You should run the pump all year round. It'sunlikely to
freeze with water flowing through it and it will keep theammonia and nitrite
down although the bacteria is not as active.

In weather that cold you need to shut down the pump for the winter. Water temp
is warmer on the bottom, and it will take away that warm bottom layer You say
zone 8, but you must be colder if you freeze......if you ARE in zone 8 raise
the pump to a few inches off the bottom ....which is where all pumps should be
for safety reasons anyway.
.You needsome oxygenating plants.
water lilies are popular but get ones that aresuitable for your pond size and
depth.
Water hyacinth and lettuce aregood to give the fish shelter from the sun,
they won't survive thewinter but the others will and should be left in. If you
add some
potash it will help the plants to take up the nitrate and that willkeep the
algae down.- Any recomendations as to what type of plants to put in the pond?
We live
in central oregon (zone 8, I believe).

I don't know what your budget is, but this is bare minimum, and you can go from
there. If I could only buy 2 plants it would be a water lily ( hardy) and
several bunches of anacharis ( oxygenator) I think it is a little late for
buying water hyacinths since they die every year....but they are the first
things to put into the pond in the spring. For a pond your size I would get
one med to large lily. My 2 favorites are Colorado ( a soft salmon color
with green leaves) it is one of the very most generous bloomers of all the
lilies and an arc en ciel. It starts out very pale pink and is white by
the 3rd day. The leaves on it are marbled and are green, pink, red, and white.
I have areas in my ponds that are several feet square with anacharis....it
is food, hiding area and oxygenator all in one little plant. The water lily
leaves will probably die back in winter ( unless you are in zone 8...then they
just get sparse) but in summer they will shade almost the whole pond, and give
wonderful blooms as well. I have had as many as 11 blooms on Colorado and 5 on
arc en ciel at one time...add to that 36 hyacinth blooms.....a really
pretty goldfish pond. ( I really need to get in it and thin them out, but
just got out of the hospital so it will be a while.....I hope this helps good
luck to you Jerri

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