OK....this has been asked many times but since it is a new group and I
can't remember what I had for breakfast I will ask it again.

I have two hardy lily tubers with leaves coming to me.

What is the best way to plant these ?
I have had no luck with tubers. Also can I put them in the pond even
though the water is still in Canadian spring mode ?

Thanks !!

They should be butted against the pot, at kinda sorta 30 degrees or so,
growing end towards the middle and not covered up, clay type soil. Others
more toward your area can probably tell you about appropriate water temps.
I know they can withstand low temps when they are acclimated but not sure
about shocking a new plant. HTH
Bill

"©anadian Ponder" " wrote in message
.com...
OK....this has been asked many times but since it is a new group and I
can't remember what I had for breakfast I will ask it again.

I have two hardy lily tubers with leaves coming to me.

What is the best way to plant these ?
I have had no luck with tubers. Also can I put them in the pond even
though the water is still in Canadian spring mode ?

Thanks !!

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:47:40 CST, "humBill" wrote:

They should be butted against the pot, at kinda sorta 30 degrees or so,
growing end towards the middle and not covered up, clay type soil. Others
more toward your area can probably tell you about appropriate water temps.
I know they can withstand low temps when they are acclimated but not sure
about shocking a new plant. HTH
Bill

I agree, except the soil doesn't have to be clay. Mine do great in my sandy
soil.... though I do fertilize often (about once/month).

I use baskets, the cheaper utility type that look like mini laundry
baskets, lined with weed cloth. After I've added dirt, adjusted the tuber
as Bill mentioned, I put strips of weed cloth on top of the dirt and then
my rocks. This keeps the rocks from shifting thru the sand to the bottom of
the basket, I don't have to use as many rocks, and best of all, when I put
the basket in the water, very little floats/escapes into the water. You
must use thin strips, running in the same direction the plant is going to
grow.

Canadian Ponder, you now have some homework. It is your job to surf the
internet and find the best website with pictures. Post site here. ;-) ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State

humBill wrote:

They should be butted against the pot, at kinda sorta 30 degrees or so,

Please don't top-post, it makes having a conversation difficult.

growing end towards the middle and not covered up, clay type soil.

That's really for lotuses. Lilies don't all have a "growing end". They
grow from any crown, which might be at an end, or in the middle.

The most vital thing to know about lilies is that the growing crown _must_
be above the soil surface. If you plant a lily and it does nothing all
year, it's almost guaranteed that you planted it too deep.
--
derek
- Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated
moderators.

most of the time when reading the messages we know what the converstation is
about. there is no need to re-read others messages not to mention that
because they are embedded are almost impossible to know who said what
anyway. those few who cant remember what the topic is about CAN scroll down
lower to refresh memory. and when top posting their will be a neat column
of newer messages at the top going down to oldest messages at the bottom but
they will be complete and from one person each message, not embedded.

is this a male vs female thing? I am just wondering. Ingrid

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:10:39 CST, "drsolo" wrote:

most of the time when reading the messages we know what the converstation is
about. there is no need to re-read others messages not to mention that
because they are embedded are almost impossible to know who said what
anyway. those few who cant remember what the topic is about CAN scroll down
lower to refresh memory. and when top posting their will be a neat column
of newer messages at the top going down to oldest messages at the bottom but
they will be complete and from one person each message, not embedded.

is this a male vs female thing? I am just wondering. Ingrid

IMHO, I don't care how people post, up, down, in the middle. Snipping is
nice, but I can manage. I'm just happy to see people post on ponds and
happy to be able to post on ponds.... (except on this post on how to post
about ponds). ;-) I think top or bottom posting ... some like it hot some
like it cold?

Course I'm posting using agent, and it color codes, so old stuff is blue
and new stuff is black. Makes it easy to find the new stuff. ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:43:50 CST, ~ jan
wrote:

I'm just happy to see people post on ponds and
happy to be able to post on ponds.... (except on this post on how to post
about ponds). ;-) I think top or bottom posting ... some like it hot some
like it cold?

Ditto! I do appreciate a bit of trimming the distractions though.

Regards,

Hal

On Mar 29, 7:15 pm, Derek Broughton wrote:
humBill wrote:
They should be butted against the pot, at kinda sorta 30 degrees or so,

Please don't top-post, it makes having a conversation difficult.

Personally I don't agree, but I will not repost again on this OT
subject. I find it a bit more trouble to have to scroll through
previous parts of the thread. Apparently google does to as they used
to offer the option to not repost the previous message at all. Now
they seem to condense to only the last message or two. I am trying to
be minimally humorous and not smart alec but why do emails top post
and news bottom post? Do emailers have a longer rate of retention??
All that being said I do recall NetMax once mentioning back in
rec.freshwater.. that bottom posting was the norm in ng's so I WILL
try to remember to bottom post or what I most often prefer to do is, I
guess you would call, middle post - answering within the previous post
if there is more than one item I am referring to.

Especially having taken on the responsibility as a moderator, I know
you are just trying to be helpful - so as I say I will try not to
forget.
Thanks
Bill Brister

I wasnt aware that there was any difference in email vs newsgoup in terms of
where they post. it all started out with bunches of scientists
communicating and maybe the time between posts was such that they needed to
reread everything before answering. It makes sense to bottom post if you
cant remember the thread of what people have said. Well.... I do have the
option of just deleting long posts rather than scrolling all the way down to
the bottom. maybe my reader doesnt show enough of the message in the first
place. the fields are dividing up into newsgroups on left, then message
thread on top, individual messages below. most posts are very narrow in
text field width too. ah well. Ingrid

humBill wrote:

On Mar 29, 7:15 pm, Derek Broughton wrote:
humBill wrote:
They should be butted against the pot, at kinda sorta 30 degrees or so,

Please don't top-post, it makes having a conversation difficult.

Personally I don't agree, but I will not repost again on this OT
subject.

It only works on web forums, or for people who read little enough Usenet to
remember every thread. I read 1000 or more posts a day. A little context
is good.

I find it a bit more trouble to have to scroll through
previous parts of the thread.

I didn't suggest bottom posting either. One should reply in context and
trim everything that isn't necessary.

I am trying to
be minimally humorous and not smart alec but why do emails top post
and news bottom post?

They don't. Most programs for either put the insertion point at the top.
Putting it at the bottom would just encourage people to include everything,
too.

However, in many business situations email is always top posted, and no
trimming is done. This is the equivalent of business snail mail, where all
prior correspondence is paper-clipped to the back of your new letter.

...what I most often prefer to do is, I
guess you would call, middle post - answering within the previous post
if there is more than one item I am referring to.

That's the best way.

Especially having taken on the responsibility as a moderator, I know
you are just trying to be helpful - so as I say I will try not to
forget.

Please note the .sig! I asked only for myself.
--
derek
- Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated
moderators.

On Apr 2, 10:34 am, Derek Broughton wrote:
humBill wrote:
On Mar 29, 7:15 pm, Derek Broughton wrote:
humBill wrote:


Especially having taken on the responsibility as a moderator, I know
you are just trying to be helpful - so as I say I will try not to
forget.

Please note the .sig! I asked only for myself.
--
derek
- Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated
moderators.

Yes, I did see the sig. I just mentioned this because online post are
sometimes very difficult to discern the 'tone of voice' that one is
using - are they being bossy or helpful? My assumption is your are
being helpful, if you give of your time to be a moderator as well.
And yes the ' include snip for point of reference' does make good
sense. Thank you!!
Bill

"©anadian Ponder" " wrote in message
.com...
OK....this has been asked many times but since it is a new group and I
can't remember what I had for breakfast I will ask it again.

I have two hardy lily tubers with leaves coming to me.

What is the best way to plant these ?
I have had no luck with tubers. Also can I put them in the pond even
though the water is still in Canadian spring mode ?
=============================
I plant them in those black plastic pond baskets lined with old pillow
cases. I fill the pot with soil and put the tuber, cut end against one
side. This is done so the lily can grow across the pot. Then I add about 2
inches of medium size gravel to keep them from digging in the pots. I also
add 1/2 (give or take) of a Jobe's Rose fertilizer spike. Push it down into
the soil.

Goldfish don't root around the lily much but some koi will. I've had koi
root them right out of their pots. Don't let the tuber or growing tip
freeze.
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
ISP: Hughes.net
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

On Mar 29, 12:11 am, "Reel McKoi"
wrote:
"©anadian Ponder" " wrote in nowhere.com... OK....this has been asked many times but since it is a new group and I
can't remember what I had for breakfast I will ask it again.

I have two hardy lily tubers with leaves coming to me.

What is the best way to plant these ?
I have had no luck with tubers. Also can I put them in thepondeven
though the water is still in Canadian spring mode ?

=============================
I plant them in those black plasticpondbaskets lined with old pillow
cases. I fill the pot with soil and put the tuber, cut end against one
side. This is done so the lily can grow across the pot. Then I add about 2
inches of medium size gravel to keep them from digging in the pots. I also
add 1/2 (give or take) of a Jobe's Rose fertilizer spike. Push it down into
the soil.

Goldfish don't root around the lily much but somekoiwill. I've hadkoi
root them right out of their pots. Don't let the tuber or growing tip
freeze.
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
MyPond& Aquarium Pages:http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
ISP: Hughes.net
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

i have found that when planting lilies or any aquatic planst for that
matter that placing a perimeter of large rocks around the base of the
plant makes it nearly impossible for koi to get to the roots.

wrote in message
oups.com...
On Mar 29, 12:11 am, "Reel McKoi"
wrote:
I plant them in those black plasticpondbaskets lined with old pillow
cases. I fill the pot with soil and put the tuber, cut end against one
side. This is done so the lily can grow across the pot. Then I add
about 2
inches of medium size gravel to keep them from digging in the pots. I
also
add 1/2 (give or take) of a Jobe's Rose fertilizer spike. Push it down
into
the soil.

Goldfish don't root around the lily much but somekoiwill. I've hadkoi
root them right out of their pots. Don't let the tuber or growing tip
freeze.
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

i have found that when planting lilies or any aquatic planst for that
matter that placing a perimeter of large rocks around the base of the
plant makes it nearly impossible for koi to get to the roots.
==============================
That crossed my mind but I though the lily may not be able to root over
larger rocks, which we have here in great abundance (limestone). Do your
lilies root over them without a problem? Are you using those about the size
of eggs called "eggrock" from places like Lowe's? Larger?
--

RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
ISP: Hughes.net
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

On Mar 29, 11:09 am, "Reel McKoi"
wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...

On Mar 29, 12:11 am, "Reel McKoi"
wrote:
I plant them in those black plasticpondbaskets lined with old pillow
cases. I fill the pot with soil and put the tuber, cut end against one
side. This is done so the lily can grow across the pot. Then I add
about 2
inches of medium size gravel to keep them from digging in the pots. I
also
add 1/2 (give or take) of a Jobe's Rose fertilizer spike. Push it down
into
the soil.

Goldfish don't root around the lily much but somekoiwill. I've hadkoi
root them right out of their pots. Don't let the tuber or growing tip
freeze.
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

i have found that when planting lilies or any aquatic planst for that
matter that placing a perimeter of large rocks around the base of the
plant makes it nearly impossible forkoito get to the roots.

==============================
That crossed my mind but I though the lily may not be able to root over
larger rocks, which we have here in great abundance (limestone). Do your
lilies root over them without a problem? Are you using those about the size
of eggs called "eggrock" from places like Lowe's? Larger?
--

RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
MyPond& Aquarium Pages:http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
ISP: Hughes.net
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö
well i am refering to artifical liner ponds in which you actually make
depretions on your shelf and fill them with soil. the rock is just a
barrier so koi cant get to them. that said we are in florida and its
pretty much limestone everywhere and in natural habitat lillies can
grow and in some instances be invasive.
Pete
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