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4/11 like 9/11 for me
On April 10th, we had a severe thunderstorm about 9:00 PM. It apparently
tripped the GFCI. 8:00 AM April 11, I go outside and notice steam coming from the skimmer box, where my heater is mounted. That was rather unusual, so I went to check it out. What I found was that the pumps were not running. So I go and reset the GFCI, and go in for breakfast. The cable is out. My SIL comes by to drop the Granddaughters off, and on his way out of the neighborhood, sees the cable man, and calls for me to go see him. Off down the next street to see if what he is doing will bring back the cable. As I returned to the house, DW is out front waving frantically. Water is running down the back yard from the smaller pond. I go out and find that one of the friction fit pipes has come loose and is dumping the pond. I have been using the friction fit for about 5 years to make it easy to remove the pumps with no problems but apparently the heat caused the pipe to come loose. I put the pipe back, start the pump again, and go up to the door in the cover, open it to start filling the pond, and find that I have 6 dead fish, and a couple of others that are near death. Of the dead were 2 very large koi, one yellow butterfly, the other an ochiba. The other four were one year olds, with two of them being favorites. I start exercising the doitsu showa back and forth to try to revive him while the pond is filling. He starts to come around some, but wants to lay on the bottom on its side and only move when disturbed. The platinum butterfly is at the top gasping. I go in and get 3 pints of hydrogen peroxide and put it in the water while the water continues to fill. The water had been pumped down about 25%. The fish revive and all are swimming normally. About 3:30 PM, we look out and water is running down the yard again. I run out and find that the pumps have pumped out almost 75% of the water. D*** friction fitting came loose again. Got the glue and fixed that problem. Filled the pond back up. About 7:00 PM looked out and water was running down the yard again. Went out and the other friction fitting had come loose. Got a plumbing union and glued all the joints. This time it had only started to lose water, maybe 5%. Well I guess that counts as my spring water change. |
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4/11 like 9/11 for me
Sorry to hear that, Rich. Bad day, for sure.
Mac Knight http://www.macknight.addr.com "RichToyBox" wrote in message news:fp3ma.434160$L1.124342@sccrnsc02... On April 10th, we had a severe thunderstorm about 9:00 PM. It apparently tripped the GFCI. 8:00 AM April 11, I go outside and notice steam coming from the skimmer box, where my heater is mounted. That was rather unusual, so I went to check it out. What I found was that the pumps were not running. So I go and reset the GFCI, and go in for breakfast. The cable is out. My SIL comes by to drop the Granddaughters off, and on his way out of the neighborhood, sees the cable man, and calls for me to go see him. Off down the next street to see if what he is doing will bring back the cable. |
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4/11 like 9/11 for me
How can you compare that to 9/11?????
Loose a damn fish to your negligence, and we lose relatives in a horrific event, and you compare those to being the same????? Thats quite disgusting.....I'll make sure my aunt knows that her husband and brothers lives were almost worth the same as stupid fish...... How can you compare anything to 9/11.......It's still fresh in everyones minds...... |
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4/11 like 9/11 for me
I don't think he meant it like that, or to insult anybody.
Our "fish" is like part of a family member to us. So this was traumatic to Rich. I'm sorry for your loss. Priss "Springworks" wrote in message ... How can you compare that to 9/11????? Loose a damn fish to your negligence, and we lose relatives in a horrific event, and you compare those to being the same????? Thats quite disgusting.....I'll make sure my aunt knows that her husband and brothers lives were almost worth the same as stupid fish...... How can you compare anything to 9/11.......It's still fresh in everyones minds...... |
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4/11 like 9/11 for me
RichToyBox wrote:
On April 10th, we had a severe thunderstorm about 9:00 PM. It apparently tripped the GFCI. 8:00 AM April 11, I go outside and notice steam coming from the skimmer box, where my heater is mounted. That was rather unusual, so I went to check it out. What I found was that the pumps were not running. So I go and reset the GFCI, and go in for breakfast. The cable is out. My SIL comes by to drop the Granddaughters off, and on his way out of the neighborhood, sees the cable man, and calls for me to go see him. Off down the next street to see if what he is doing will bring back the cable. As I returned to the house, DW is out front waving frantically. Water is running down the back yard from the smaller pond. I go out and find that one of the friction fit pipes has come loose and is dumping the pond. I have been using the friction fit for about 5 years to make it easy to remove the pumps with no problems but apparently the heat caused the pipe to come loose. I put the pipe back, start the pump again, and go up to the door in the cover, open it to start filling the pond, and find that I have 6 dead fish, and a couple of others that are near death. Of the dead were 2 very large koi, one yellow butterfly, the other an ochiba. The other four were one year olds, with two of them being favorites. I start exercising the doitsu showa back and forth to try to revive him while the pond is filling. He starts to come around some, but wants to lay on the bottom on its side and only move when disturbed. The platinum butterfly is at the top gasping. I go in and get 3 pints of hydrogen peroxide and put it in the water while the water continues to fill. The water had been pumped down about 25%. The fish revive and all are swimming normally. About 3:30 PM, we look out and water is running down the yard again. I run out and find that the pumps have pumped out almost 75% of the water. D*** friction fitting came loose again. Got the glue and fixed that problem. Filled the pond back up. About 7:00 PM looked out and water was running down the yard again. Went out and the other friction fitting had come loose. Got a plumbing union and glued all the joints. This time it had only started to lose water, maybe 5%. Well I guess that counts as my spring water change. I hope you rested on the 12th! -- Bonnie NJ http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/ |
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4/11 like 9/11 for me
RichToyBox wrote: On April 10th, we had a severe thunderstorm about 9:00 PM. It apparently tripped the GFCI. 8:00 AM April 11, I go outside and notice steam coming from the skimmer box, where my heater is mounted. That was rather unusual, so I went to check it out. What I found was that the pumps were not running. So I go and reset the GFCI, and go in for breakfast. The cable is out. My SIL comes by to drop the Granddaughters off, and on his way out of the neighborhood, sees the cable man, and calls for me to go see him. Off down the next street to see if what he is doing will bring back the cable. Well I guess that counts as my spring water change. thank god you were able to save the fish -- John Rutz the green is grassing the leaves are treeing I'm happy see my pond at: http://www.fuerjefe.com |
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4/11 like 9/11 for me
LOL cute Bonnie. He probably is sitting watch over the pipes. lol
Priss "Bonnie Espenshade" wrote in message ... RichToyBox wrote: On April 10th, we had a severe thunderstorm about 9:00 PM. It apparently tripped the GFCI. 8:00 AM April 11, I go outside and notice steam coming from the skimmer box, where my heater is mounted. That was rather unusual, so I went to check it out. What I found was that the pumps were not running. So I go and reset the GFCI, and go in for breakfast. The cable is out. My SIL comes by to drop the Granddaughters off, and on his way out of the neighborhood, sees the cable man, and calls for me to go see him. Off down the next street to see if what he is doing will bring back the cable. As I returned to the house, DW is out front waving frantically. Water is running down the back yard from the smaller pond. I go out and find that one of the friction fit pipes has come loose and is dumping the pond. I have been using the friction fit for about 5 years to make it easy to remove the pumps with no problems but apparently the heat caused the pipe to come loose. I put the pipe back, start the pump again, and go up to the door in the cover, open it to start filling the pond, and find that I have 6 dead fish, and a couple of others that are near death. Of the dead were 2 very large koi, one yellow butterfly, the other an ochiba. The other four were one year olds, with two of them being favorites. I start exercising the doitsu showa back and forth to try to revive him while the pond is filling. He starts to come around some, but wants to lay on the bottom on its side and only move when disturbed. The platinum butterfly is at the top gasping. I go in and get 3 pints of hydrogen peroxide and put it in the water while the water continues to fill. The water had been pumped down about 25%. The fish revive and all are swimming normally. About 3:30 PM, we look out and water is running down the yard again. I run out and find that the pumps have pumped out almost 75% of the water. D*** friction fitting came loose again. Got the glue and fixed that problem. Filled the pond back up. About 7:00 PM looked out and water was running down the yard again. Went out and the other friction fitting had come loose. Got a plumbing union and glued all the joints. This time it had only started to lose water, maybe 5%. Well I guess that counts as my spring water change. I hope you rested on the 12th! -- Bonnie NJ http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/ |
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4/11 like 9/11 for me
what a day! sheesh!
mad -- "Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordian. You just leave a lot of useless, noisy baggage behind!" Jed Babbin, Former Undersecretary of Defense From: "RichToyBox" Organization: AT&T Broadband Newsgroups: rec.ponds Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 01:52:11 GMT Subject: 4/11 like 9/11 for me On April 10th, we had a severe thunderstorm about 9:00 PM. It apparently tripped the GFCI. 8:00 AM April 11, I go outside and notice steam coming from the skimmer box, where my heater is mounted. That was rather unusual, so I went to check it out. What I found was that the pumps were not running. So I go and reset the GFCI, and go in for breakfast. The cable is out. My SIL comes by to drop the Granddaughters off, and on his way out of the neighborhood, sees the cable man, and calls for me to go see him. Off down the next street to see if what he is doing will bring back the cable. As I returned to the house, DW is out front waving frantically. Water is running down the back yard from the smaller pond. I go out and find that one of the friction fit pipes has come loose and is dumping the pond. I have been using the friction fit for about 5 years to make it easy to remove the pumps with no problems but apparently the heat caused the pipe to come loose. I put the pipe back, start the pump again, and go up to the door in the cover, open it to start filling the pond, and find that I have 6 dead fish, and a couple of others that are near death. Of the dead were 2 very large koi, one yellow butterfly, the other an ochiba. The other four were one year olds, with two of them being favorites. I start exercising the doitsu showa back and forth to try to revive him while the pond is filling. He starts to come around some, but wants to lay on the bottom on its side and only move when disturbed. The platinum butterfly is at the top gasping. I go in and get 3 pints of hydrogen peroxide and put it in the water while the water continues to fill. The water had been pumped down about 25%. The fish revive and all are swimming normally. About 3:30 PM, we look out and water is running down the yard again. I run out and find that the pumps have pumped out almost 75% of the water. D*** friction fitting came loose again. Got the glue and fixed that problem. Filled the pond back up. About 7:00 PM looked out and water was running down the yard again. Went out and the other friction fitting had come loose. Got a plumbing union and glued all the joints. This time it had only started to lose water, maybe 5%. Well I guess that counts as my spring water change. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
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4/11 like 9/11 for me
How can you compare that to 9/11?????
Loose a damn fish to your negligence, and we lose relatives in a horrific event, and you compare those to being the same? I am sure no disrespect was meant....Rich is really a good guy. I am sorry for you loss on 9/11. I lost my daughter last week Jerri http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond |
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4/11 like 9/11 for me
The comparison was not meant to be disrespectful of those that lost loved
ones. It was a family tragedy in which I lost much loved fish. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "Springworks" wrote in message ... How can you compare that to 9/11????? Loose a damn fish to your negligence, and we lose relatives in a horrific event, and you compare those to being the same????? Thats quite disgusting.....I'll make sure my aunt knows that her husband and brothers lives were almost worth the same as stupid fish...... How can you compare anything to 9/11.......It's still fresh in everyones minds...... |
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4/11 like 9/11 for me
Good lord! What a bummer, so sorry that happened to you.
On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 01:52:11 GMT, "RichToyBox" wrote: On April 10th, we had a severe thunderstorm about 9:00 PM. It apparently tripped the GFCI. 8:00 AM April 11, I go outside and notice steam coming from the skimmer box, where my heater is mounted. That was rather unusual, so I went to check it out. What I found was that the pumps were not running. So I go and reset the GFCI, and go in for breakfast. The cable is out. My SIL comes by to drop the Granddaughters off, and on his way out of the neighborhood, sees the cable man, and calls for me to go see him. Off down the next street to see if what he is doing will bring back the cable. As I returned to the house, DW is out front waving frantically. Water is running down the back yard from the smaller pond. I go out and find that one of the friction fit pipes has come loose and is dumping the pond. I have been using the friction fit for about 5 years to make it easy to remove the pumps with no problems but apparently the heat caused the pipe to come loose. I put the pipe back, start the pump again, and go up to the door in the cover, open it to start filling the pond, and find that I have 6 dead fish, and a couple of others that are near death. Of the dead were 2 very large koi, one yellow butterfly, the other an ochiba. The other four were one year olds, with two of them being favorites. I start exercising the doitsu showa back and forth to try to revive him while the pond is filling. He starts to come around some, but wants to lay on the bottom on its side and only move when disturbed. The platinum butterfly is at the top gasping. I go in and get 3 pints of hydrogen peroxide and put it in the water while the water continues to fill. The water had been pumped down about 25%. The fish revive and all are swimming normally. About 3:30 PM, we look out and water is running down the yard again. I run out and find that the pumps have pumped out almost 75% of the water. D*** friction fitting came loose again. Got the glue and fixed that problem. Filled the pond back up. About 7:00 PM looked out and water was running down the yard again. Went out and the other friction fitting had come loose. Got a plumbing union and glued all the joints. This time it had only started to lose water, maybe 5%. Well I guess that counts as my spring water change. |
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4/11 like 9/11 for me
Rich,
What a bad day, just thank God that you were there to catch it each time. If it had been me, it would have been the day that I was gone for 14 hours. I tried using just the friction fitting technique and really hate having to buy new fittings all the time and to recut or buy new pipe, but I learned my lesson early and have glued every time since. Tom L.L. --------------------------------- "RichToyBox" wrote in message news:fp3ma.434160$L1.124342@sccrnsc02... On April 10th, we had a severe thunderstorm about 9:00 PM. It apparently tripped the GFCI. 8:00 AM April 11, I go outside and notice steam coming from the skimmer box, where my heater is mounted. That was rather unusual, so I went to check it out. What I found was that the pumps were not running. So I go and reset the GFCI, and go in for breakfast. The cable is out. My SIL comes by to drop the Granddaughters off, and on his way out of the neighborhood, sees the cable man, and calls for me to go see him. Off down the next street to see if what he is doing will bring back the cable. As I returned to the house, DW is out front waving frantically. Water is running down the back yard from the smaller pond. I go out and find that one of the friction fit pipes has come loose and is dumping the pond. I have been using the friction fit for about 5 years to make it easy to remove the pumps with no problems but apparently the heat caused the pipe to come loose. I put the pipe back, start the pump again, and go up to the door in the cover, open it to start filling the pond, and find that I have 6 dead fish, and a couple of others that are near death. Of the dead were 2 very large koi, one yellow butterfly, the other an ochiba. The other four were one year olds, with two of them being favorites. I start exercising the doitsu showa back and forth to try to revive him while the pond is filling. He starts to come around some, but wants to lay on the bottom on its side and only move when disturbed. The platinum butterfly is at the top gasping. I go in and get 3 pints of hydrogen peroxide and put it in the water while the water continues to fill. The water had been pumped down about 25%. The fish revive and all are swimming normally. About 3:30 PM, we look out and water is running down the yard again. I run out and find that the pumps have pumped out almost 75% of the water. D*** friction fitting came loose again. Got the glue and fixed that problem. Filled the pond back up. About 7:00 PM looked out and water was running down the yard again. Went out and the other friction fitting had come loose. Got a plumbing union and glued all the joints. This time it had only started to lose water, maybe 5%. Well I guess that counts as my spring water change. |
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4/11 like 9/11 for me
Never sit a pump on the bottom of a pond, that is because it can drain your
pond.Just a piece of info "Tom La Bron" wrote in message ... Rich, What a bad day, just thank God that you were there to catch it each time. If it had been me, it would have been the day that I was gone for 14 hours. I tried using just the friction fitting technique and really hate having to buy new fittings all the time and to recut or buy new pipe, but I learned my lesson early and have glued every time since. Tom L.L. --------------------------------- "RichToyBox" wrote in message news:fp3ma.434160$L1.124342@sccrnsc02... On April 10th, we had a severe thunderstorm about 9:00 PM. It apparently tripped the GFCI. 8:00 AM April 11, I go outside and notice steam coming from the skimmer box, where my heater is mounted. That was rather unusual, so I went to check it out. What I found was that the pumps were not running. So I go and reset the GFCI, and go in for breakfast. The cable is out. My SIL comes by to drop the Granddaughters off, and on his way out of the neighborhood, sees the cable man, and calls for me to go see him. Off down the next street to see if what he is doing will bring back the cable. As I returned to the house, DW is out front waving frantically. Water is running down the back yard from the smaller pond. I go out and find that one of the friction fit pipes has come loose and is dumping the pond. I have been using the friction fit for about 5 years to make it easy to remove the pumps with no problems but apparently the heat caused the pipe to come loose. I put the pipe back, start the pump again, and go up to the door in the cover, open it to start filling the pond, and find that I have 6 dead fish, and a couple of others that are near death. Of the dead were 2 very large koi, one yellow butterfly, the other an ochiba. The other four were one year olds, with two of them being favorites. I start exercising the doitsu showa back and forth to try to revive him while the pond is filling. He starts to come around some, but wants to lay on the bottom on its side and only move when disturbed. The platinum butterfly is at the top gasping. I go in and get 3 pints of hydrogen peroxide and put it in the water while the water continues to fill. The water had been pumped down about 25%. The fish revive and all are swimming normally. About 3:30 PM, we look out and water is running down the yard again. I run out and find that the pumps have pumped out almost 75% of the water. D*** friction fitting came loose again. Got the glue and fixed that problem. Filled the pond back up. About 7:00 PM looked out and water was running down the yard again. Went out and the other friction fitting had come loose. Got a plumbing union and glued all the joints. This time it had only started to lose water, maybe 5%. Well I guess that counts as my spring water change. |
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4/11 like 9/11 for me
Rich,
What is a friction valve? Would camlocks work better for you? Course with those you do have to have the room to back them off. That's what my DH installed for me.... probably because he didn't want to be called to do the maintenance I suppose. ;o) ~ jan See my ponds and filter design: http://users.owt.com/jjspond/ ~Keep 'em Wet!~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a To e-mail see website -----------== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----= Over 100,000 Newsgroups - Unlimited Fast Downloads - 19 Servers =----- |
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4/11 like 9/11 for me
Jan,
The friction fitting is just pushing the pieces of pipe together with no glue. I had success with the method for about 5 years, but the high heat in the skimmer affected the pipe sizes, I guess and they would not hold. Glue is now holding them. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "~ jan" wrote in message ... Rich, What is a friction valve? Would camlocks work better for you? Course with those you do have to have the room to back them off. That's what my DH installed for me.... probably because he didn't want to be called to do the maintenance I suppose. ;o) ~ jan See my ponds and filter design: http://users.owt.com/jjspond/ ~Keep 'em Wet!~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a To e-mail see website -----------== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----= Over 100,000 Newsgroups - Unlimited Fast Downloads - 19 Servers =----- |
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